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  1. MoreDef's Avatar
    I'm at around 2% per hour. I don't know if that's what it should be, but I do know that it's not going to be anything like apple and iPhones. I was just curious as to what everyone else is at. To be completely transparent, I run wifi, Bluetooth, high performance, location and AoD on all the time.
    Attached Thumbnails What's your average battery drain per hour when idle?-screenshot_20200528-021447_accubattery.jpg  
    05-28-2020 04:15 AM
  2. Rodney Holinger's Avatar
    I do have about 4%. Don't know what is problem. It's too much in my opinion
    05-28-2020 05:36 AM
  3. Morty2264's Avatar
    Did you just purchase your phone? The battery could still be "settling in," per se. It takes a little while for the battery to adapt to your usage.

    My S10 isn't the best for standby time. I too get about 1-2% an hour. My husband's LG G7 ThinQ, on the other hand, has excellent standby time, maybe one percent every few hours.

    Screen brightness and AOD, as well as Bluetooth, probably play a role. I have a Fitbit and always have BT on and AOD enabled. Maybe try turning off your Bluetooth at night and see what happens?
    05-28-2020 08:21 AM
  4. monty Stinson's Avatar
    Idle time at night from 10:30 pm to 6:30 am, go from 99-100% to 93-95% on an average night.

    S20 Ultra
    05-28-2020 09:09 AM
  5. MoreDef's Avatar
    Did you just purchase your phone? The battery could still be "settling in," per se. It takes a little while for the battery to adapt to your usage.

    My S10 isn't the best for standby time. I too get about 1-2% an hour. My husband's LG G7 ThinQ, on the other hand, has excellent standby time, maybe one percent every few hours.

    Screen brightness and AOD, as well as Bluetooth, probably play a role. I have a Fitbit and always have BT on and AOD enabled. Maybe try turning off your Bluetooth at night and see what happens?
    Got my phone day 1, sorry, I should have mentioned that too.

    I'll try turning off Bluetooth tonight and see what that saves me.

    Your husband gets 1% every few hours?! Geez, you sure he doesn't have an iPhone? That's great for an Android.
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    05-28-2020 11:06 AM
  6. MoreDef's Avatar
    Idle time at night from 10:30 pm to 6:30 am, go from 99-100% to 93-95% on an average night.

    S20 Ultra
    Woah. What are your settings? Do you turn on airplane mode every night or what?
    05-28-2020 11:07 AM
  7. Morty2264's Avatar
    Got my phone day 1, sorry, I should have mentioned that too.

    I'll try turning off Bluetooth tonight and see what that saves me.

    Your husband gets 1% every few hours?! Geez, you sure he doesn't have an iPhone? That's great for an Android.
    Bluetooth might be causing that drain! I'll turn mine off tonight too and see what happens.

    I know!! He gets excellent battery life. And his iPhone SE had amazing stamina, especially when it would hit under 10%. I think it's him. He is the Battery Master. I should just give him my phone to use for a day and see if my standby time improves!
    05-29-2020 08:12 AM
  8. MoreDef's Avatar
    yeah, i'm going to try turning off my bluetooth today too and see if that helps.

    if bluetooth is the culprit, then I will be extremely torn, as 2% idle drain per hour is huge over the span of a day. i mean, having a smart watch for system notifications and messages is kind of a big deal, but if it's draining battery at a clip of 10% every 5 hours, and given that i'm wearing my smartwatch ALL THE TIME, that's 48% of my battery life on something passive. geez, if that's the tradeoff, it's really making me think about how much i really need a smart watch. it's not even an apple watch, it's a MiBand, for goodness sakes!
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    05-29-2020 12:46 PM
  9. Morty2264's Avatar
    yeah, i'm going to try turning off my bluetooth today too and see if that helps.

    if bluetooth is the culprit, then I will be extremely torn, as 2% idle drain per hour is huge over the span of a day. i mean, having a smart watch for system notifications and messages is kind of a big deal, but if it's draining battery at a clip of 10% every 5 hours, and given that i'm wearing my smartwatch ALL THE TIME, that's 48% of my battery life on something passive. geez, if that's the tradeoff, it's really making me think about how much i really need a smart watch. it's not even an apple watch, it's a MiBand, for goodness sakes!
    Yeah, I'm in the same boat with my Fitbit. I like how it's always synced because then I can view my sleep score, steps, and especially my notifications and who is calling if I'm busy doing something and my phone vibrates.

    Let us know what happens when you take your phone off Bluetooth overnight! I forgot to do it last night lol so I will do it tonight!
    05-30-2020 08:28 AM
  10. MoreDef's Avatar
    Yeah, I'm in the same boat with my Fitbit. I like how it's always synced because then I can view my sleep score, steps, and especially my notifications and who is calling if I'm busy doing something and my phone vibrates.

    Let us know what happens when you take your phone off Bluetooth overnight! I forgot to do it last night lol so I will do it tonight!
    It looks like Bluetooth IS a culprit. Keeping everything else on and turning off that one thing made a world of difference!

    Turning it off bring me from 2% an hour to less than 1%.
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    05-30-2020 12:26 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    It looks like Bluetooth IS a culprit. Keeping everything else on and turning off that one thing made a world of difference!

    Turning it off bring me from 2% an hour to less than 1%.
    You see any apps in history of Bluetooth?
    05-30-2020 01:06 PM
  12. MoreDef's Avatar
    The only reason Bluetooth was always connected was for my Mi Band 4, for the notifications. Besides that, having it in just let me auto connect with my car.

    That was kind of convenient, but I don't know if it's worth that amount of idle battery drain.
    05-30-2020 03:42 PM
  13. Morty2264's Avatar
    It looks like Bluetooth IS a culprit. Keeping everything else on and turning off that one thing made a world of difference!

    Turning it off bring me from 2% an hour to less than 1%.
    Oh, boy! Now I'm even more excited to try this tonight! Thank you so much for posting your results!
    05-30-2020 03:56 PM
  14. MoreDef's Avatar
    Oh, boy! Now I'm even more excited to try this tonight! Thank you so much for posting your results!
    You're welcome!
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    05-30-2020 05:32 PM
  15. mustang7757's Avatar
    The only reason Bluetooth was always connected was for my Mi Band 4, for the notifications. Besides that, having it in just let me auto connect with my car.

    That was kind of convenient, but I don't know if it's worth that amount of idle battery drain.
    Usually Bluetooth on mine for good portion of the day no issue
    05-30-2020 05:32 PM
  16. MoreDef's Avatar
    Usually Bluetooth on mine for good portion of the day no issue
    Yeah, I just think 2% adds up through the course of a day. A steady and passive 20% over the 10 hours I'm using the phone I'm the middle of the day, on top what the phone uses while I'm actively on it feels like a lot.
    05-30-2020 05:37 PM
  17. mustang7757's Avatar
    Yeah, I just think 2% adds up through the course of a day. A steady and passive 20% over the 10 hours I'm using the phone I'm the middle of the day, on top what the phone uses while I'm actively on it feels like a lot.
    I hear you
    05-30-2020 05:47 PM
  18. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't be concerned about your usage, but I couldn't answer that question because I rarely check battery usage. Sometimes it lasts a whole day, but more often than not I have to top off during the day because I use this thing a lot. All of my other devices were always the same way.
    05-30-2020 11:06 PM
  19. MoreDef's Avatar
    No, I agree. The thing is that all reviews say this phone has "all day battery", taking it off the charger in the morning and plugging late in the evening with no problems. I've also seen folks post themselves getting 8-10 of SoT. So when those are the things that are being mentioned about battery life, then I think I just get a little anxious when I'm only seeing 6 hours of (projected) SoT. When I say projected, it's because I charge at 30 and unplug at 80, meaning I'm technically only using 50% of the full potential of the battery. In that time, I was getting a consistent 3 hours of SoT, with that time being split evenly between chrome and YouTube, with some comic book reading sprinkled in there.
    05-30-2020 11:38 PM
  20. mustang7757's Avatar
    No, I agree. The thing is that all reviews say this phone has "all day battery", taking it off the charger in the morning and plugging late in the evening with no problems. I've also seen folks post themselves getting 8-10 of SoT. So when those are the things that are being mentioned about battery life, then I think I just get a little anxious when I'm only seeing 6 hours of (projected) SoT. When I say projected, it's because I charge at 30 and unplug at 80, meaning I'm technically only using 50% of the full potential of the battery. In that time, I was getting a consistent 3 hours of SoT, with that time being split evenly between chrome and YouTube, with some comic book reading sprinkled in there.
    From 100 to 10% you only going see those SOT
    You are correct only using 50% , I use mine close to 90/95%
    05-30-2020 11:50 PM
  21. Mike Dee's Avatar
    No, I agree. The thing is that all reviews say this phone has "all day battery", taking it off the charger in the morning and plugging late in the evening with no problems. I've also seen folks post themselves getting 8-10 of SoT. So when those are the things that are being mentioned about battery life, then I think I just get a little anxious when I'm only seeing 6 hours of (projected) SoT. When I say projected, it's because I charge at 30 and unplug at 80, meaning I'm technically only using 50% of the full potential of the battery. In that time, I was getting a consistent 3 hours of SoT, with that time being split evenly between chrome and YouTube, with some comic book reading sprinkled in there.
    It's hard to say if that's actually 50 percent as I'm not convinced the charge indications are perfectly linear. I charge to 100 and try not to go below 40. I usually work in an office so I don't mind topping off and battery life is mostly a non-issue for me.
    05-31-2020 07:50 AM
  22. the_boon's Avatar
    Here's my attempt at a complete list of battery saving tips. A lot of these apply to any Android phone, but some are only for the Samsungs:

    -If you're not using Bluetooth, turn it off.

    -If cellular signal is weak, try to connect to a Wi-Fi network if possible.

    -If cell signal is fine but the Wi-Fi network is weak or keeps on dropping, it's better to turn off Wi-Fi and keep the phone on cellular.

    -In "Connections" and then "Data usage", turn on "Data saver" and just allow the essential apps to have background data access such as WhatsApp, SMS, e-mails, the weather app (for the widget) etc. I would restrict the Facebook app for example.

    -If you have the option to, reduce the screen resolution to FHD.

    -Keep screen brightness at around 50% when possible. Samsung displays are naturally very bright so it's easy to do.

    -Set the screen timeout to be 15 or 30 seconds at the most.

    -Enable "Medium power saving" mode and leave it on all the time.
    -Disable Always-On display. This should automatically happen when you enable the "Medium power saving" mode.

    -Enable dark mode at night (better for the eyes anyway).

    -In "Accounts and backup", go to "Accounts" and then in the Google one, disable the things you don't need to have synced. I would keep Contacts, Calendar, Notes and Gmail syncing.

    -If you're using Google to back up your data, turn off Samsung's backup service so you don't have both constantly syncing in the background.

    -In the "Privacy" settings, disable "Send diagnostic data". In that menu, also disable "Customization Service".

    -Go into the "Location" settings and then "Improve accuracy" and make sure that "Wi-Fi/Bluetooth scanning when off" are both off.

    -While you're in there, disable "Google Location History" and "Google Location Sharing". Unfortunately you can't really get away with disabling "Google Location Accuracy" because it's needed to get accurate location when navigating with GPS.

    -Also go into Location permissions and make sure no apps have access to it that don't really need it. For most of the others, only allow the use of location when the app is in use. Honestly, most apps don't really need your location. I'd leave it for navigation apps like G Maps, Waze, etc.

    -In the "Connections" settings, go to "More connection settings" and disable "Nearby device scanning".

    -If you like to leave your phone on vibrate most of the time, set a lower vibration intensity for the notifications. If it's vibrating all day multiple times per minute, it can make a difference.
    If you prefer to leave the strong vibration, you could also individually set certain apps not to vibrate.

    -Disable vibration for "Touch interactions". Leave it on for the keyboard if like me, you much prefer the typing experience with the haptic feedback. Setting the vibration strength to something like 10ms would be a decent balance between power efficiency and good feedback.

    -In the battery settings of "Device Care", turn off "Fast charging" and "Fast wireless charging". This would help preserve the battery in the long run.

    -In that same menu, go into "App power management" and enable "Adaptive battery" as well as "Put unused apps to sleep".

    -You can also manually add apps to "Sleeping apps" and even "Deep sleeping apps". Not sure what the difference is between those two, but only add apps that you don't ever need to have them notify you of anything.
    Don't add apps such as e-mail, SMS, or WhatsApp which are basic communication essentials.

    -If you don't use things like "Ok Google", just disable that Google app

    -Disable the Google apps that you don't need. Do not disable "Google Play Services" or "Google Play Store" of course.

    -Same goes for Samsung's pre-loaded apps. If you're not using them, disable/uninstall them if possible, or at least restrict background usage of them and then "Force stop" them.

    -If you don't care for custom Samsung themes, don't even login to your Samsung account on the device.
    You'll still have essential functions like "Find my Device" by Google since you'll be logged in to your Google account, as with any Android device.

    -If you don't care for anything Bixby related, aside from disabling/force stopping as noted above, go into the "Advanced features" and disable "Bixby Routines".

    -In "Motions and gestures", disable "Lift to wake" and "Smart stay".

    -In the "Apps" settings menu, hit the three dots on the top right and go to "Special access". Then go to "Usage data access" and disable "allow usage tracking" for the "Digital Wellbeing and parental controls" app, as well as for "Bixby Routines" and "Bixby Voice".

    -No need to force close apps all the time if you know you're gonna be using them again shortly. The S10 phones have 6GB or 8GB of RAM which is plenty enough to keep several apps in memory.
    Having an app reload itself constantly could use more power than leaving it in memory.

    -This last one isn't so much for battery life as it is for speed, but enable the developer options by going into "About phone" > "Software information" and hitting the "Build number" about 8 times. Then back out into the main settings menu and go into the developer options and scroll down to the three "animation" toggles which will be set to 1x by default, and reduce all three of them to 0.5x.

    -Lastly, avoid using battery intensive apps if you don't need to.
    05-31-2020 08:05 AM
  23. Morty2264's Avatar
    You're welcome!
    So, I turned off Bluetooth last night... And had the same issue. Haha.

    But it is okay. My phone's battery gets me through the workday just fine. It's just standby time that's a little weird!
    05-31-2020 09:34 AM
  24. the_boon's Avatar
    So, I turned off Bluetooth last night... And had the same issue. Haha.

    But it is okay. My phone's battery gets me through the workday just fine. It's just standby time that's a little weird!
    Is "Bluetooth scanning when off" deactivated in the "Location" settings?
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    05-31-2020 08:24 PM
  25. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I don't normally disable anything and run my device the way it was meant to be run on high performance mode. I might turn off Bluetooth and certain things if I'm not using them but that's about it.
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    05-31-2020 09:50 PM
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