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  1. PsychDoc's Avatar
    What the heck is keeping us with the INCREDIBLY outdated sms, mms crap. It's like driving a model T when there's a Ferrari parked right outside.

    Apple fanbois must be looking at us and laughing at how pathetic we are in the android world.

    https://blog.rebrandly.com/rcs-messaging/
    02-23-2020 09:29 AM
  2. donm527's Avatar
    I believe RCS is only supported through Google Messaging app... and they have activated it for anyone using the app regardless of carrier.
    So you have to download and install Google Messaging. Playing with the demo Samsung is still using their own Messaging app.

    I wanted to like the Google app and sent pics back and forth with a coworker and works well, but if you can't get all android users on board it's useless and everyone has their fav messaging app. I had to uninstall it because I was getting delayed texts using it on my Note 8 even after a factory reset for other reasons. Even if you get all Android users on board, still useless if Apple doesn't integrate it into iMessages.
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    02-23-2020 09:39 AM
  3. PsychDoc's Avatar
    Unless I'm mistaken imessage and rcs are independent, non-compatible systems. For Apple to adopt rcs, they would have to commit to it in lieu of imessage.
    02-23-2020 09:43 AM
  4. donm527's Avatar
    Exactly. That's why, in my opinion, it doesn't matter if all android users get on board. If Apple doesn't support it, it's useless. Carriers all around the world needed to change the standard so that Apple has no choice but to adopt it. Carriers don't care anymore because they lost the race in charging us 25 cents per text like they did in the old days. They should just abandon text messaging all-together like they have with paging... probably keeping it for data-mining lol.

    Unless I'm mistaken imessage and rcs are independent, non-compatible systems. For Apple to adopt rcs, they would have to commit to it in lieu of imessage.
    02-23-2020 09:51 AM
  5. buzzy3970's Avatar
    Useless for some but not all as my inner circle and those I communicate with consistently all have android.
    I believe RCS is only supported through Google Messaging app... and they have activated it for anyone using the app regardless of carrier.
    So you have to download and install Google Messaging. Playing with the demo Samsung is still using their own Messaging app.

    I wanted to like the Google app and sent pics back and forth with a coworker and works well, but if you can't get all android users on board it's useless and everyone has their fav messaging app. I had to uninstall it because I was getting delayed texts using it on my Note 8 even after a factory reset for other reasons. Even if you get all Android users on board, still useless if Apple doesn't integrate it into iMessages.
    02-23-2020 11:44 AM
  6. j_hansen's Avatar
    Depends on carrier as well, Samsung messages can use RCS but only if enabled by your carrier.
    (at least that is how I understand it)
    We have had it here for a long time
    Ry likes this.
    02-23-2020 11:52 AM
  7. jhimmel's Avatar
    Useless for some but not all as my inner circle and those I communicate with consistently all have android.
    Same here. Eventually, most (Android) messaging clients will be RCS enabled. I don't really care what Apple does. If they want to ignore a widely used (eventually, maybe, someday) open standard and stick to their proprietary closed system, iPhone users will get txt's from me. No big deal. Sure doesn't make RCS useless to me. Horrid and confusing initial deployment though, no question about it.
    buzzy3970 likes this.
    02-23-2020 01:34 PM
  8. donm527's Avatar
    Yeah, Textra had mentioned that they will be supporting RCS in their app... back in 2017. We'll see if they do in 2020. I doubt it.

    Maybe Google will force any message app to be listed in their store to require RCS support. That would give Google the win over carriers. Because like I said, carriers won't enable it.

    You realize that the carriers are trying to roll out their own RCS (CCMI) standard to block out Google from supporting it.

    https://www.androidcentral.com/ccmi-...ers-rcs-google

    Same here. Eventually, most (Android) messaging clients will be RCS enabled. I don't really care what Apple does. If they want to ignore a widely used (eventually, maybe, someday) open standard and stick to their proprietary closed system, iPhone users will get txt's from me. No big deal. Sure doesn't make RCS useless to me. Horrid and confusing initial deployment though, no question about it.
    02-23-2020 03:06 PM
  9. KrisYYC's Avatar
    I assume it would be as long as your carrier supports it. I'm getting RCS messaging to my friends with S9's and S10's using the stock Samsung messaging app on the Rogers network here in Canada.
    02-24-2020 01:26 AM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    Apple fanbois must be looking at us and laughing at how pathetic we are in the android world.
    Who hurt you?
    02-24-2020 05:29 PM
  11. buzzy3970's Avatar
    Right. I'm not envious of iMessage in the slightest. Far more important features I require in my phone's.
    Who hurt you?
    02-24-2020 07:04 PM
  12. illdini's Avatar
    Or they can code support for it into iMessage (which they won't do).
    02-24-2020 08:17 PM
  13. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Samsung is now incorporating Google Duo into their phones. I guess we will see where that goes.

    https://www.engadget.com/2020/02/11/...deo-messaging/
    02-24-2020 08:46 PM
  14. jessewaldo's Avatar
    Samsung is now incorporating Google Duo into their phones. I guess we will see where that goes.

    https://www.engadget.com/2020/02/11/...deo-messaging/
    My only worry with this is the fact that Google is quick to kill off apps fast. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin? If it doesn't take off now, they may kill duo?
    02-24-2020 08:48 PM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    My only worry with this is the fact that Google is quick to kill off apps fast. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin? If it doesn't take off now, they may kill duo?
    Yeah....I'm aware of that, but for Samsung to integrate into the dialer is a pretty bold move. We will see where it goes.
    02-24-2020 08:55 PM
  16. Ry's Avatar
    My only worry with this is the fact that Google is quick to kill off apps fast. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin? If it doesn't take off now, they may kill duo?
    With Duo integrated into Smart Displays and now becoming the default video chat service for some Android phones, I don't see Duo going away in the next year.
    bhatech and karmamule like this.
    02-25-2020 12:16 PM
  17. williams448's Avatar
    Yeah....I'm aware of that, but for Samsung to integrate into the dialer is a pretty bold move. We will see where it goes.
    Having Duo built in is huge for me because my family uses Duo all the time across all platforms.

    My only concern is the carriers screwing it up with their own video chat apps. Our At&t phones have At&t Video Chat built in to the dialer, but we have never enabled it because of Duo & the fact that At&t phones were the only ones compatible.

    I'm gonna be one pissed off customer if my GS20U has At&t Video chat & not Duo built in to the dialer.
    02-25-2020 12:30 PM
  18. dew066's Avatar
    I have a Telus S10 plus and have no RCS messaging. I have looked at the settings and it won't let me activate it. I am still waiting for Telus to activate RCS....unfortunately
    02-25-2020 12:41 PM
  19. HOLLYWOODANT215's Avatar
    Duo isn't going anywhere... It's the top video app, every Android phone has it by default... And I know alot of iPhone ppl will has it downloaded...
    Ry and bhatech like this.
    02-25-2020 03:17 PM
  20. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Duo isn't going anywhere... It's the top video app, every Android phone has it by default... And I know alot of iPhone ppl will has it downloaded...
    I'm not certain every Android has it by default, however Samsung plans to integrate it into the dialer.
    02-26-2020 07:16 AM
  21. HOLLYWOODANT215's Avatar
    I'm not certain every Android has it by default, however Samsung plans to integrate it into the dialer.
    It does... I can video call any Android phone, it will ring even if the person never opened the actual app on they phone.
    TgeekB likes this.
    02-28-2020 03:39 AM
  22. AlphaBeepBeep's Avatar
    What the heck is keeping us with the INCREDIBLY outdated sms, mms crap. It's like driving a model T when there's a Ferrari parked right outside.

    Apple fanbois must be looking at us and laughing at how pathetic we are in the android world.

    https://blog.rebrandly.com/rcs-messaging/
    Kind of agree. Messaging on Android is a mess. But I don't think unencrypted rcs is the answer.

    It would be nice if google would make an iMessage clone and bake it into android the way apple did with iMessage. Would be nice to have a service like that built into every android phone.

    Kind of annoying having people across different apps. iMessage is the only one people are willing to universally adopt it seems.
    02-28-2020 10:59 PM
  23. buzzy3970's Avatar
    Not willing. It's literally the only messaging app on iOS and some people are brain washed to think they are superior because they have iMessage. I personally don't care unless they can make a truly universal way without any platform subscriptions.
    Kind of agree. Messaging on Android is a mess. But I don't think unencrypted rcs is the answer.

    It would be nice if google would make an iMessage clone and bake it into android the way apple did with iMessage. Would be nice to have a service like that built into every android phone.

    Kind of annoying having people across different apps. iMessage is the only one people are willing to universally adopt it seems.
    02-29-2020 12:42 AM
  24. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Kind of agree. Messaging on Android is a mess. But I don't think unencrypted rcs is the answer.

    It would be nice if google would make an iMessage clone and bake it into android the way apple did with iMessage. Would be nice to have a service like that built into every android phone.

    Kind of annoying having people across different apps. iMessage is the only one people are willing to universally adopt it seems.
    It's why I always keep a cheaper iPhone as a backup phone. Google can't get their crap together.
    02-29-2020 01:22 AM
  25. bhatech's Avatar
    Yep Duo isn't going anywhere, it's one of their top used app in recent times. Works great, cross platform, I see adoption of duo increasing day by day. I'm glad to see Samsung dialer integrating Duo. May be they should give up on their other apps as well and use Google ones

    Yeah I know majority love Samsung apps, but I'm the odd one out and don't use them. I even stopped using Samsung browser now that chrome runs smoothly without any issues. That was the only Samsung app I could tolerate.
    02-29-2020 01:25 AM
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