1. DanielLoreti's Avatar
    How often should I be optimizing ram? Seems like poor ram management when I have under 2 gigs available. Is it bad to optimize ram and battery a lot?
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    03-11-2020 02:19 PM
  2. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Android is designed to keep RAM relatively full. If you constantly kill apps to "free up" RAM, you might actually be causing performance issues, because it does take a little more time and energy to reload an app into RAM. If you're not noticing any performance issues, then let the system manage RAM on its own.
    03-11-2020 02:52 PM
  3. durandetto's Avatar
    What Diddy said. Just let it do its thing.
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    03-11-2020 03:12 PM
  4. DanielLoreti's Avatar
    I've already optimized maybe 3 times in the week I've had the phone. Hope I didn't harm anything.
    03-11-2020 04:31 PM
  5. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I've already optimized maybe 3 times in the week I've had the phone. Hope I didn't harm anything.
    Nah u should be ok. The phone will optimize on its own once a day if u want it to.. I reset my phone once a day always have.
    Tech friend likes this.
    03-11-2020 04:38 PM
  6. mustang7757's Avatar
    I've already optimized maybe 3 times in the week I've had the phone. Hope I didn't harm anything.
    No no harm but I leave mine in device care settings under advance to automatically optimize once a day 1.8 GB RAM available?-screenshot_20200311-192138_device-20care.jpeg
    03-11-2020 06:25 PM
  7. B. Diddy's Avatar
    I reset my phone once a day always have.
    I'm sure you mean "reboot," not "reset." Just want to make sure the OP doesn't get the wrong idea.
    03-11-2020 06:37 PM
  8. Peter Scooze's Avatar
    I'm sure you mean "reboot," not "reset." Just want to make sure the OP doesn't get the wrong idea.
    Haha. Yes poor choice of words. I reboot.
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    03-11-2020 06:43 PM
  9. EMGSM's Avatar
    I don't know if it's ram management but I noticed that the S20 Ultra is always around 3-4gb of free ram. On the N10+ I would average between 6-7gb with all the same apps.
    03-12-2020 03:21 PM
  10. Mooncatt's Avatar
    RAM uses the same amount of power regardless if it's full or empty. Android and other modern OS's take advantage of this by keeping your most commonly used apps loaded but dormant in the background. They are effectively paused, using no processing power, but can be quickly brought to the foreground when you want to access them. This not only allows for more efficient multitasking, but uses less power compared to initializing everything from scratch.

    When you use RAM optimizing apps that arbitrarily force close apps, the OS will just re-initialize those apps again to refill the RAM. There's no way to prevent this, so those optimization apps and OS will just spend all day fighting each other, wasting battery re-loading apps only to be closed again.
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    03-12-2020 03:45 PM
  11. B. Diddy's Avatar
    RAM uses the same amount of power regardless if it's full or empty. Android and other modern OS's take advantage of this by keeping your most commonly used apps loaded but dormant in the background. They are effectively paused, using no processing power, but can be quickly brought to the foreground when you want to access them. This not only allows for more efficient multitasking, but uses less power compared to initializing everything from scratch.

    When you use RAM optimizing apps that arbitrarily force close apps, the OS will just re-initialize those apps again to refill the RAM. There's no way to prevent this, so those optimization apps and OS will just spend all day fighting each other, wasting battery re-loading apps only to be closed again.
    That being said, I think Samsung has been going down Huawei's path in terms of more aggressive RAM management at the firmware level, hasn't it? The main problem this causes is that apps are more likely to be killed in the background, which can be a pain if you have an app in the background that you want to continue working (like a music or podcast app, for example).
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    03-12-2020 03:48 PM
  12. Mooncatt's Avatar
    That being said, I think Samsung has been going down Huawei's path in terms of more aggressive RAM management at the firmware level, hasn't it? The main problem this causes is that apps are more likely to be killed in the background, which can be a pain if you have an app in the background that you want to continue working (like a music or podcast app, for example).
    I'm not sure how manufacturers are handling things on the OS level. If I had such an option like Samsung has, I would leave it off. If they still force close things on occasion, there's not much you can do about, but I wouldn't add to the problem by installing another management app.
    03-12-2020 03:58 PM
  13. EMGSM's Avatar
    The main problem this causes is that apps are more likely to be killed in the background, which can be a pain if you have an app in the background that you want to continue working (like a music or podcast app, for example).
    I agree. This is why I'm glad we now have the option to lock/pin apps we want to stay open. This is a good thing right? I used it for the first time and I like it.
    03-12-2020 04:02 PM
  14. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Agreed. Here's an interesting website about the issue: https://dontkillmyapp.com/
    03-12-2020 04:02 PM
  15. msm0511's Avatar
    I agree. This is why I'm glad we now have the option to lock/pin apps we want to stay open. This is a good thing right? I used it for the first time and I like it.

    I only tried it for one app, and it didn't work. When I went back to the app a few hours later it reloaded to the homepage.
    03-12-2020 04:47 PM
  16. EMGSM's Avatar
    I only tried it for one app, and it didn't work. When I went back to the app a few hours later it reloaded to the homepage.
    That's not good. Mine stayed in place but I went back to it after only about 20 minutes. So i guess it doesn't last that long.
    03-12-2020 05:43 PM
  17. DanielLoreti's Avatar
    My Galaxy themes app has stayed in place since yesterday.
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    03-12-2020 05:45 PM

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