[DanielLoreti]

What upgrades is it supposed to have compared to the S21 Ultra?

[VidJunky]

I don't think I've seen a single review from someone who actually has put hands on a working S22. I know reviewers get them sometimes way in advance but aren't allowed to release videos of the actual device until a certain date which usually corresponds to the official (insert something here but I think it is release date) announcement. Then depending on who it is from, what it is and the relationship between the reviewer and the MFGR, it may be an impression video, spec video or an actual review. Anyway having said all of that there are a lot of leak and rumor videos on YouTube right now. Many of them have what I'm assuming are case blanks, plastic slabs that show the size, shape and placement of everything for the purposes of creating accessories for the device's release. In the rumor and leaks department iTechNews has a really good video where they kind of compare the S20 U, S21 U and S22 U based on specs. I think that video will answer your question numerically. You'd have to wait until the official announcement when they can show the actual device for true comparisons. Oh and I think iTN gets the chip set wrong. I've seen more that say it is getting the Snapdragon 8 vs the Snapdragon 898. The 8 is supposed to be a super chip able to bend time and space but either way.



If you want more than just a numbers breakdown try Mrwhosetheboss.

[mustang7757]

Hopefully better image processing they already have good camera sensors just need to focus more on software and image processing . We see .

[jamezr]

Samsung always has great cameras and the best zoom on a smartphone. I would love to them focus on shutter speed. That is the one thing they fall behind other smartphones like the iPhone and Pixel. I get more blurry photos with my S21 Ultra than my Pixel 6 pro and 13 PM of all moving things

[anon(40376)]

And yet, reading the photo thread for the S21U it appears there was an update that made the shutter speed faster. And have seen some good photos of moving kids with no blur. Could also be some improvements with the upcoming update to 4.1. Right now nothing known but who knows....
I do know I have a friend in TN with two Australian shepherds that never stand still, move like little rockets and he gets some good photos with a S21U.
I have no S21U, but have a Pixel 4XL and if my Mals move quick enough, they blur the photo; however, both being over 9 years, they don't blur the photos like they used too.

One UI 4.1 For The Galaxy S21 Ultra Is Under Development
https://www.androidheadlines.com/202...velopment.html

[jamezr]

yeah reading the photo thread will only show you the best photos. It won't show you all the ones that were deleted.
Then visit other forums and websites and they all point out slow shutter speeds on Samsung phones.
Then actually USE the phone to take pictures is the best way to compare phones and shutter speed.

Don't get me wrong Samsung has great phones with great cameras with the best zoom on a smartphone. But they need to improve focus and shutter speed
I will get the S22 Ultra and trade my S21U on it.

[DanielLoreti]

Don't get me wrong Samsung has great phones with great cameras with the best zoom on a smartphone. But they need to improve focus and shutter speed
I will get the S22 Ultra and trade my S21U on it.

Doesn't the S21U have laser autofocus lens?

[jamezr]

Doesn't the S21U have laser autofocus lens?

I think it does.

[davidnc]

This thread is about the S22 Ultra camera .

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[BlackZeppelin]

Hopefully better image processing they already have good camera sensors just need to focus more on software and image processing . We see .

That's apparently what is happening. The 108 MP sensor apparently will have a new mode to provide even more detail than before. And Samsung is making a big deal out of the new night mode that is supposed to be greatly improved over the S21 Ultra. Earlier rumours suggested a continuous zoom up to 10x, rather than true optical at 3x and 10x only as is with the S21 Ultra. But I haven't read anything further about that recently.

But apparently there is a real focus on greatly improved software optimisations overall on the imaging system.

[Guyinbox]

Shutter speed and image processing. I really wish Samsung would just make a phone for Google lol. If the 22 ultra had the order 6 pro camera and software, as well as some of the pixel features it would literally be the perfect phone.

[mustang7757]

That's apparently what is happening. The 108 MP sensor apparently will have a new mode to provide even more detail than before. And Samsung is making a big deal out of the new night mode that is supposed to be greatly improved over the S21 Ultra. Earlier rumours suggested a continuous zoom up to 10x, rather than true optical at 3x and 10x only as is with the S21 Ultra. But I haven't read anything further about that recently.

But apparently there is a real focus on greatly improved software optimisations overall on the imaging system.

Hopefully they can ,the telephotos is really good and love that but refinement is always good.

[jamezr]

Shutter speed and image processing. I really wish Samsung would just make a phone for Google lol. If the 22 ultra had the order 6 pro camera and software, as well as some of the pixel features it would literally be the perfect phone.

I would love love a s22 Ultra with the Pixel 6 Pro user experience and camera!

[htcrazy]

And yet, reading the photo thread for the S21U it appears there was an update that made the shutter speed faster. And have seen some good photos of moving kids with no blur. Could also be some improvements with the upcoming update to 4.1. Right now nothing known but who knows....
I do know I have a friend in TN with two Australian shepherds that never stand still, move like little rockets and he gets some good photos with a S21U.
I have no S21U, but have a Pixel 4XL and if my Mals move quick enough, they blur the photo; however, both being over 9 years, they don't blur the photos like they used too.

One UI 4.1 For The Galaxy S21 Ultra Is Under Development
https://www.androidheadlines.com/202...velopment.html

The detail is indeed better on the S21 Ultra, probably a result of A12 and UI 4.0. Hopefully, 4.1 will include more enhancements. I think Samsung could improve the AI for image processing even more for the S21 series, but then again, they might hold off until after the S22 is released. I have a 512gb Ultra and if they can improve the camera a little more, I will have no reason to upgrade as I don't need the s-pen. I have the Gcam ported as well, but it's still not equal to my Pixel 6 Pro for still pictures. If Samsung can get the camera on par with the Pixel, I'll sell my P6 Pro.

[I Can Be Your Hero]

The detail is indeed better on the S21 Ultra, probably a result of A12 and UI 4.0. Hopefully, 4.1 will include more enhancements. I think Samsung could improve the AI for image processing even more for the S21 series, but then again, they might hold off until after the S22 is released. I have a 512gb Ultra and if they can improve the camera a little more, I will have no reason to upgrade as I don't need the s-pen. I have the Gcam ported as well, but it's still not equal to my Pixel 6 Pro for still pictures. If Samsung can get the camera on par with the Pixel, I'll sell my P6 Pro.

I've personally found the Pixel 6 Pro camera worse than previous Pixel phones and felt the S21 Ultra was really quite good and definitely more versatile. I don't think there's a huge difference between the two. Some shots I preferred with the Galaxy, some I preferred with the Pixel. But the days of the Pixel having definitively the best camera on a phone are over.

[Morty2264]

Hopefully better image processing they already have good camera sensors just need to focus more on software and image processing . We see .

Yes, absolutely. I'd love to try Samsung again but their image processing was subpar -- especially when it came to processing photographs with pets.

[jamezr]

Yes, absolutely. I'd love to try Samsung again but their image processing was subpar -- especially when it came to processing photographs with pets.

Shutter speed has always been an issue for Samsung. But hopefully they have improved their post processing algorithm that can speed things up for them. They still have great cameras and the best zoom on smartphones. But can produce burry photos of moving things like kids and pets.

[Morty2264]

Shutter speed has always been an issue for Samsung. But hopefully they have improved their post processing algorithm that can speed things up for them. They still have great cameras and the best zoom on smartphones. But can produce burry photos of moving things like kids and pets.

Oh, absolutely. My S10 took amazing nature shots and photos of people. But when it came to my cat and the (moving) kids in my preschool classes, it just didn't hold up.

[anon(40376)]

More rumors to keep everyone's interest.

New rumor suggests Galaxy S22 Ultra camera could be a gamechanger

https://www.phonearena.com/news/sams...-lens_id138252

[htcrazy]

I have an S21 Ultra, so if I buy the S22 Ultra it would almost be solely for the camera upgrade and AI improvements. I am tempted, but I have decided to wait until real users on this forum tell me that the S22 Ultra indeed takes clear shots of moving subjects and that animal fur is equivalent to the Pixel series,and not a blurry smudge. If Samsung can pull this off and of course with no major defects, I'll buy one. I've heard all the hype before. I really like my S21 Ultra so I do hope they can succeed and finally equal the Pixel and iPhone for both stills and video. So as soon as you guys get your pre-orders, take some pictures and let us know the verdict. The YouTube channels will all say it's great just like they did for the S21. I want to know what critical users think. I can't afford a $1,300 mistake and would rather wait, even if it takes several months to get one.

[Morty2264]

More rumors to keep everyone's interest.[IMG=25x27]https://i.imgur.com/Uk03LDg.gif[/url]

New rumor suggests Galaxy S22 Ultra camera could be a gamechanger

https://www.phonearena.com/news/sams...-lens_id138252

This is AMAZING news!

[Gary02468]

New rumor suggests Galaxy S22 Ultra camera could be a gamechanger

That strikes me as a minor improvement rather than a "gamechanger". I rarely see lens flare in my photos anyway (and when I do, it often looks kind of pretty). If Samsung has to tout reduced lens flare as the biggest camera improvement for the S22 Ultra, that's a disappointment.

[htcrazy]

That strikes me as a minor improvement rather than a "gamechanger". I rarely see lens flare in my photos anyway (and when I do, it often looks kind of pretty). If Samsung has to tout reduced lens flare as the biggest camera improvement for the S22 Ultra, that's a disappointment.

I agree Gary. I'm a Samsung fan so I'm not trying to be critical, but I can't help being skeptical. Lens flare has never been a problem for me on any phone or DSLR. They need to extract fine detail like the Pixel series can. If they already possessed this technology, they could have updated the camera app in the S21 and earlier models. I take very few low-light night shots and in fact, my S21 Ultra does just fine. All I want is the same level of detail as my P6P and 4XL, especially with moving subjects. I might get one, but will wait this one out until after release. So yes, take all the marketing hype with a grain of salt and let's see what evolves.

[jamezr]

That strikes me as a minor improvement rather than a "gamechanger". I rarely see lens flare in my photos anyway (and when I do, it often looks kind of pretty). If Samsung has to tout reduced lens flare as the biggest camera improvement for the S22 Ultra, that's a disappointment.

That was my thoughts too. I have had every Samsung flagship phone for the last 5 years. I do not ever recall lens flare as a problem. But now shutter speed and slow image processing has always been a problem. Getting blurry picts of kids and pets has always been a problem.

[Morty2264]

That strikes me as a minor improvement rather than a "gamechanger". I rarely see lens flare in my photos anyway (and when I do, it often looks kind of pretty). If Samsung has to tout reduced lens flare as the biggest camera improvement for the S22 Ultra, that's a disappointment.

Hmm, I do see your point. Image processing has always been my gripe with Samsung cameras -- though I find that the Note line does do a better job of that.