05-22-2022 01:52 PM
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  1. ledvedder's Avatar
    This is specifically for people who went from the S21 Ultra to the S22 Ultra. Are you satisfied? I was an S21 Ultra user, but decided to go to the S22 Plus instead of the Ultra. I thought the S21U seemed too big, and the size and weight of the S21U was pretty much my limit. Plus I didn't like the square corners or the curved screen. But, I'm having trouble getting used to the smaller size of the Plus, and I'm wondering if I should've just gone with the Ultra.

    Tell me how you feel?
    Morty2264 likes this.
    02-27-2022 06:10 PM
  2. durandetto's Avatar
    Barley a comparison. It's more of a note than an s-series. Either way I don't regret my upgrade. I did however regret going from the 21u to the fold 3. Worst Samsung I've ever owned.
    02-27-2022 06:28 PM
  3. jlangner's Avatar
    I went from S21U to S22U..love it. I used to swap between Note and Galaxy so best of both to me. Glad spen inside now..
    02-27-2022 06:50 PM
  4. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    Barley a comparison. It's more of a note than an s-series. Either way I don't regret my upgrade. I did however regret going from the 21u to the fold 3. Worst Samsung I've ever owned.
    I went to the fold as well and hate it. I will be trading in my s21u for the s22note next week.
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    02-27-2022 07:17 PM
  5. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    I went from S21U to S22U..love it. I used to swap between Note and Galaxy so best of both to me. Glad spen inside now..
    Want the Note always the best of both. The s line was just never as good for me. I hate the rounded corners compared to the Note.
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    02-27-2022 07:18 PM
  6. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    I'm using it now, got it as a backup phone. I'll use this for a week or 2 and go back to the f fold 3. I don't need a 100x zoom to play with, I use it as a phone with data, which the fold 3 does very well.

    From what I've seen on my father in laws 21 ultra and what I read, you might as well stay with the 21 unless you want the built in spen
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    02-27-2022 07:48 PM
  7. VidJunky's Avatar
    While I resisted getting this device for exactly the reason that it is not that much of an upgrade from the S21Ultra, so why spend the money, I pulled the trigger anyway. Looking at my Samsung shopping history I only paid a hundred and some change for the device vs what I got for it as a trade in so I've decided to look at it that way. In the meantime I keep seeing things like faster charge times on the S21, longer battery life on the 21, slightly and subjectively better pics on the 21 from one of the cameras (yeah I don't know which one and truthfully that isn't one that bothers me all that much) and blah blah blah. So yeah I'm a little tentative to say the least, wondering if I'm giving up more than I'm getting.

    If you had asked me when I got my first Samsung, an S10+, I would have said I don't understand the excitement over an S-Pen, I don't like the square flat bottom and I just don't understand the hype surrounding the Note series. Fast forward to today and I'm looking forward to the S-Pen. While I think I'll mostly use the photography features, it'll be nice to be in a photo or two for a change, I am also excited to be able to take notes on the phone without opening the phone and an app to do so. Is that worth the expense? Maybe not but I have also become addicted to new devices having owned the S10, 20, 21 and soon the 22. Still upset with Samsung over MST and feel like an open letter is needed to try and get that back.
    02-27-2022 08:10 PM
  8. buzzy3970's Avatar
    Barley a comparison. It's more of a note than an s-series. Either way I don't regret my upgrade. I did however regret going from the 21u to the fold 3. Worst Samsung I've ever owned.
    Actually it's a good mix of both. Although the design is definitely note based. The camera(both front facing and rear) also battery size were taken directly from the S series Ultra. It only made sense to merge the 2 heavyweights.
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    02-27-2022 08:38 PM
  9. me23brown's Avatar
    Honestly not that much of an upgrade in my opinion but I’m still happy with the S22U over the S21U and I’ll be keeping it.
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    02-27-2022 08:48 PM
  10. Kilroy672's Avatar
    I can honestly when I trade in my S21U I'll miss it. But hopefully I'll love the S22U the same way I enjoyed this phone.
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    02-27-2022 09:04 PM
  11. bhatech's Avatar
    You aren't going to see major upgrades in terms of performance or camera or most areas. That happens with every year to year phone but if you are looking for a Note then S21U to S22U is a great upgrade. With great trade in values and deals I personally get it every year.
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    02-27-2022 09:11 PM
  12. fjd726's Avatar
    I feel different than most of the above. I'm sending the S22 Ultra back and sticking with the s21 Ultra. For me, ergonomics is way better on the 21 compared to the uncomfortable boxiness of the 22. Everything else is the same except for the pen which I doubt I'd continue to use at all. If you like an uncomfortable phone to hold, then get the s22 Ultra. I actually think they did a disservice to S21 Ultra owners this year. They got rid of the Ultra and just gave you a note under a fake name. Not worth it for me, I can see if you're a Note fan but this definitely shouldn't have been called the S22 Ultra.
    02-27-2022 09:45 PM
  13. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I feel different than most of the above. I'm sending the S22 Ultra back and sticking with the s21 Ultra. For me, ergonomics is way better on the 21 compared to the uncomfortable boxiness of the 22. Everything else is the same except for the pen which I doubt I'd continue to use at all. If you like an uncomfortable phone to hold, then get the s22 Ultra. I actually think they did a disservice to S21 Ultra owners this year. They got rid of the Ultra and just gave you a note under a fake name. Not worth it for me, I can see if you're a Note fan but this definitely shouldn't have been called the S22 Ultra.
    Last year people complained that you had to buy the S-Pen separately and that there was then nowhere to store it.

    It became clear there were two types of S21 Ultra owners. To me it made perfect sense to combine them. Also, I'm fairly certain you'll never see a built in S-pen in anything other than a boxy design.
    02-27-2022 09:57 PM
  14. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    . If you like an uncomfortable phone to hold, then get the s22 Ultra..
    That is your opinion and some will agree. That's not fact though. If it's not the phone for you by all means return it, it's not going to be for everyone. I'm using it now to test it out during the return period, but it's my back up phone, I'll go go back to the fold 3, unless the 22 ultra wins me over, but doubt it will. I think it's a good phone though.
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    02-28-2022 04:34 AM
  15. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    . Also, I'm fairly certain you'll never see a built in S-pen in anything other than a boxy design.
    Good, then there's hope for a spen silo for the fold 4.
    jayk82 likes this.
    02-28-2022 04:35 AM
  16. subguy812's Avatar
    Lateral move, with S-Pen inside the body.
    02-28-2022 05:40 AM
  17. Mdbills484's Avatar
    I feel different than most of the above. I'm sending the S22 Ultra back and sticking with the s21 Ultra. For me, ergonomics is way better on the 21 compared to the uncomfortable boxiness of the 22. Everything else is the same except for the pen which I doubt I'd continue to use at all. If you like an uncomfortable phone to hold, then get the s22 Ultra. I actually think they did a disservice to S21 Ultra owners this year. They got rid of the Ultra and just gave you a note under a fake name. Not worth it for me, I can see if you're a Note fan but this definitely shouldn't have been called the S22 Ultra.
    If, like most people, the phone is in a case, it feels.... checks notes....like every other phone.
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    02-28-2022 07:17 AM
  18. Emig5m's Avatar
    Well I mainly went from the S21U to the S22U because of the aggressive trade in and tablet combo discounts. When you do the math, every rear you wait your trade in is less valuable and you really don't save much by waiting. By doing the pre-order and phone/tablet combo discount I basically paid full retail for the tablet and got the phone for free in comparison to just going to say, Best Buy and buying the Tab S8U at full retail by itself so it was a no-brainer to take advantage of all the deals and basically get the phone for free, especially with the free $350 keyboard/cover for the Tab S8U and free 45watt charger with my additional $50 credit after my order shipped. But I was looking much more forward to the jump from a Tab S6 to a Tab S8U than swapping from the S21U to the S22U. The 60hz screen on the Tab S6 drove me nuts being used to 120Hz screens on my phones and 144Hz display on my PC and I also wanted a tablet that was closer to the performance of a flagship phone, the larger screen for media consumption was just the icing on the cake (kick back wherever you want and watch movies).

    Am I happy with the S22U coming from the S21U? Only because of the deal I got (basically getting it for free with the tablet compared to full retail price of both) and the fact that all the complaints about the S22U I'm not experiencing (poor battery performance for example) so I was expecting it to be worse out of the box with all the complaints but it's been performing very good for me and everything so far works as it should. I was super worried about the square edges from a comfort in the pocket point of view because I work construction and I jump in and out of various machines all day plus some labor but it's no problem for me and actually feels more comfortable without that big camera bump (it also now sits flat on the back with even the thin Samsung leather cover so that's another plus for the S22U over the S21U). It also feels lighter in hand since the weight is more balanced without that camera bump. So I don't mind the square edges at all now. The S-pen is pretty much a total waste of time for me like the front camera on the tablet. I have absolutely zero use for it other than maybe using it to take a selfie from a distance remotely. And I would of totally rather not have any front facing camera on the Tab S8U in place of having that notch. The notch is my only complaint with the Tab S8U so far.

    All-in-all I'm mainly happy with the jump to the S22U because with the aggressive pre-order and tablet discounts I wouldn't have saved any money by waiting 1-3 years to upgrade and just like trading in a V8 for a 4-cylinder, you really don't save money on gas for like ten years of ownership since the cost of the new car would of bought tons of gas for the old V8 so to save money by not upgrading a phone you really would have to stretch it out like six years or more and nobody on here is going to go much over waiting three years to upgrade so as long there's aggressive trade in and pre-order discounts and credits, I'll probably just continue to upgrade every year because it doesn't really save money to wait as your trade in becomes less valuable over time.

    Now if you have no phone and you're handed either a S21U or S22U for free which one do you take? I would go for the refinements of the S22U all day. Little things like the lighter feel in hand due to being better weight balanced, feeling thinner and laying down flat on the back with a thin case instead of wobbling like the S21U...all these little things just make it better overall to use on a day-to-day basis.
    02-28-2022 09:04 AM
  19. barondebxl's Avatar
    I think that no one who has the S21 ultra should get the S22 ultra, I'm not even sure that it's an upgrade.
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    02-28-2022 12:02 PM
  20. barondebxl's Avatar
    Lateral move, with S-Pen inside the body.
    Exactly
    02-28-2022 12:04 PM
  21. Go0gle's Avatar
    I bought the S21U on launch day and I bought the S22U on launch day. S22 is a huge upgrade for my usage. Here are my thoughts so far:

    1) The most noticeable thing is that the screen is wider, and I LOVE that. To me that is worth it right there, everything else is gravy. I have large hands and have zero issues with one-handed use. 2-hand typing is a dream, that extra bit of space allows me to type noticeably faster with my thumbs than the S21U. It's so much nicer for reading articles and generally consuming content, I didn't expect it to be as noticeable as it is. "Natural" mode saturation is slightly higher on the S22U, but that isn't an issue. The extra brightness is noticeable. I like the squared off edges, it seems to provide just that little bit extra useful space, and 99% of phones live in a case anyway so you can customize the in-hand feel however you wish.

    2) I have never owned a Note device in the past, but the S-Pen is great. I don't use it a ton, but when I do want to use it I'm really glad to have it (remote shutter, screen captures, signing documents, etc.) It's included at no extra cost and remains hidden away so you forget it's even there until you need it. Perfect implementation with no downsides in my view.

    3) Cameras have been improved quite dramatically, both on the processing side and sharpness/general image quality. Every image sensor is new despite the lens focal length and apertures remaining the same. I am a professional photographer so I am very picky regarding image quality and I found the improvements to be very noticeable. Portrait mode in particular is unbelievably good at picking out boarders, far better than any other phone out there including the iPhone 13 Pro. I have done a ton of tests and it literally doesn't miss even a single strand of hair, and you can adjust the effect after the fact - pretty much a perfect implementation IMHO. Portrait mode with the 3X looks best in most cases due to the scene compression from the longer focal length. Night mode got a big improvement (both the long-exposure mode as well as just snapping shots in low light), as did overall white balance. Video image stabilization is massively improved as well. Digital zoom (anything beyond 10X) is also dramatically improved, with 30X being genuinely usable and 100X useful for reading a sign, menu, license plate, etc. Everyone will have a different threshold for what is acceptable here but it's great to have so many options. Really pleased with the gains here across the board. The RAW files from the main camera sensor (by far the largest sensor physically) are easy to work with and have a surprising amount of leeway in post processing, for those who may be interested.

    4) Speed/responsiveness - for general usage, there is no noticeable difference from the S21U which was literally instant-fast for most things. Nothing of note to report here, it is as good as it gets in terms of normal everyday use. Fingerprint reader 100% accurate as long as I don't miss it with my finger (exact same unit as the S21U, so no change there). Turn off the fingerprint animation and it is literally instant - you don't even need to wake the screen first once you get used to where the sensor is. If anything I will say the camera app is quicker to take photos, process photos, and switch between cameras but the S21U was already so fast that nobody should expect major gains here.

    5) Battery life - Seems to be slightly better than the S21U, but both were astonishingly good with 2+ day batteries (normal use), so I really don't care at the end of the day which ends up being slightly better or worse as it will not affect me.

    6) Price - absolute no-brainer of an upgrade. It cost me under $200 CAD to upgrade from my 256GB S21U to the S22U (I imagine that number is even less in the USA), so there is little reason not to upgrade unless there is a specific thing about the S21U you prefer. It was super easy to find various promos, order through the student portal, etc. to reduce the cost. I got the S22U for under $1,400 CAD and sold my S21U for $1200 CAD in one day. Because the upgrade is so cheap, if there is even one feature you want from the S22, it's easily worth it. Any cheaper and it would have been a free upgrade, so it's pretty hard to complain about the price.

    tl;dr: Samsung is letting people (almost) upgrade for free, they are not charging you any extra for the S-pen "Note" experience, and there are significant improvements across the board. Easiest upgrade decision I have ever made in the Android world, and also the cheapest.

    My sole complaint: Samsung stopped applying factory screen protectors with the S22 series.
    02-28-2022 12:48 PM
  22. sulla1965's Avatar
    Well the S22 Ultra could've been called the S22 Ultra Note. Many S21 Ultra users are dismayed by the boxy design compared to last years S21 Ultra. Whereas Note users are perfectly fine with it. So are you a Note fan? if not, you may want to hold off "upgrading."

    I had the S21 Ultra for a while. I just thought it was a bit top heavy for my liking. And I always regretted selling it. Personally I still prefer the S21 Ulta's design over the S22 Ultra.

    The S22 Ultra has a slightly brighter screen, slightly better camera's, built in S pen slot, its newer. So will be supported a bit longer. But like with any new device. Upgrading is a personal choice. As yearly iterations aren't really enough to make upgrading a necessity by any means.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    02-28-2022 01:04 PM
  23. djousma's Avatar
    i am coming from S21U to S22U. I do so for the advertised improvements in radio for fringe area's. we'll see if that pans out. Beyond that, it was a free upgrade with the credits. Otherwise I was prepared to wait another year.
    02-28-2022 01:13 PM
  24. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    I think that no one who has the S21 ultra should get the S22 ultra, I'm not even sure that it's an upgrade.
    Well all yearly upgrades come with a upgrade. You get a new phone that has a year manufacturers warranty. Most people forget about that.
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    02-28-2022 02:29 PM
  25. Go0gle's Avatar
    Well all yearly upgrades come with a upgrade. You get a new phone that has a year manufacturers warranty. Most people forget about that.
    Not only that but Samsung is essentially letting people upgrade for free with all the easily accessible promotions and high value retention of previous year models. You can literally upgrade for approximately the same cost as the extended warranty, and who wouldn't rather have a brand new phone to go along with it.
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    02-28-2022 02:59 PM
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