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  1. Starfleet Captain's Avatar
    Huh? Nvidia has nothing to do with this. This is a colossal failure by Samsung. Hmmm, let's see, TWO months ago, Apple released a product that can do what a Samsung product 3 months later cannot. That's a joke. Again, there is no need to rush this product if it isn't as good as they can possibly make it.
    I'm sorry, what Apple product would you be referring to? The Snapdragon s4 is a very good chip. Samsung's A15 based variant is not ready yet. As I said, they can't pull these things out of their butts. NONE OF THE CHIP MANUFACTURERS HAVE LTE QUAD CORE CHIPS AVAILABLE so, what exactly is your problem?
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    04-25-2012 08:14 PM
  2. ab304945's Avatar
    I'm sorry, what Apple product would you be referring to? The Snapdragon s4 is a very good chip. Samsung's A15 based variant is not ready yet. As I said, they can't pull these things out of their butts. NONE OF THE CHIP MANUFACTURERS HAVE LTE QUAD CORE CHIPS AVAILABLE so, what exactly is your problem?

    Exactly.

    And lets wait till May 3rd, as far as i am concerned this is just another rumor.

    Samsung could have something up it sleeve.

    I will still be getting it if it has the S4 or better
    04-25-2012 08:26 PM
  3. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    I'm sorry, what Apple product would you be referring to? The Snapdragon s4 is a very good chip. Samsung's A15 based variant is not ready yet. As I said, they can't pull these things out of their butts. NONE OF THE CHIP MANUFACTURERS HAVE LTE QUAD CORE CHIPS AVAILABLE so, what exactly is your problem?
    what is YOUR problem? What makes you think the A15 variants aren't ready yet? Do you have inside information? We know that Samsung stated earlier this year that the chip would be ready in Q2. And what's today's date?

    Most people on this forum don't care about cores so I don't get why you are screaming nonsense about quad core. The point is, they so called flagship device won't be any better than others already out. That's the point.
    04-25-2012 08:26 PM
  4. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    I'll be getting the phone because it's a rockin phone. Anything is better than my SE W810!!!!

    It'd be cool to stick it apple fanboys, but because it's coming out AFTER the S3, apple can stick in whatever they want to make it better.

    Even if the S3 blows the new iphone out of the water, it won't matter because all of the apple sheet will buy the iphone 5 and say it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    I like apple and their products, I just hate apple fanboys.
    Yea man. I'm with you. I like the products too. I personally just wished that Samsung would take this opportunity to set the new standards. Oh well.
    04-25-2012 08:28 PM
  5. Orion78's Avatar
    Has this been confirmed or is this just another stupid rumor?
    04-25-2012 08:51 PM
  6. DaRkL3AD3R's Avatar
    Has this been confirmed or is this just another stupid rumor?
    It's looking like a very educated guess rumor-a-jig thing.

    And it's not looking very good. At least for us US of A citizens it isn't looking good.
    04-25-2012 08:54 PM
  7. jeffreii's Avatar
    Yea man. I'm with you. I like the products too. I personally just wished that Samsung would take this opportunity to set the new standards. Oh well.
    It's not May 3rd yet...these are rumors...why are you in the past tense already?
    04-25-2012 09:00 PM
  8. Starfleet Captain's Avatar
    what is YOUR problem? What makes you think the A15 variants aren't ready yet? Do you have inside information? We know that Samsung stated earlier this year that the chip would be ready in Q2. And what's today's date?

    Most people on this forum don't care about cores so I don't get why you are screaming nonsense about quad core. The point is, they so called flagship device won't be any better than others already out. That's the point.
    Since when do we judge a smart phone device by its CPU alone? Here's some news: The chip is not the only thing that makes the device. There are tons of other specs to consider in a smart phone... You are disappointed because the phone you held as the holy grail of all smart phones won't have a better processor than the other top of the line phones that are already out, but will have the SAME processor as the other top of the line phones... tsk tsk tsk....

    As I said, I am getting the Evo LTE anyway. But I'm sure the GS3 will be an Android Superpower regardless...
    04-25-2012 09:01 PM
  9. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    Since when do we judge a smart phone device by its CPU alone? Here's some news: The chip is not the only thing that makes the device. There are tons of other specs to consider in a smart phone... You are disappointed because the phone you held as the holy grail of all smart phones won't have a better processor than the other top of the line phones that are already out, but will have the SAME processor as the other top of the line phones... tsk tsk tsk....

    As I said, I am getting the Evo LTE anyway. But I'm sure the GS3 will be an Android Superpower regardless...
    Yea. You're right. Oh well
    04-25-2012 09:05 PM
  10. MannyZ28's Avatar
    Sprint customers like myself were lucky to get the Exynos in their version of the GS2, but now that Sprint is ditching Wimax and going with LTE.....ugh...I hope we're not getting the S4. While it in itself is a good chip, it's the GPU that sucks. It's the Adreno 225 that was already in the Evo 3d! I traded that phone in for the GS2 because it felt so slow. I am confused about the supposed non LTE compatibility of the 4412 and 5250, I thought they both did have LTE compatibility. Did a quick google search on it and couldn't find anything about it since most articles I found go back to September of last year.

    Lets think about what we get if the US versions really are based on the S4. We get a phone that has the innards of the MID RANGE HTC One series, because remember, they only put the S4 into the One X because they have to, for the european market, the One X gets the Tegra 3 and the One S, the midrange phone, gets the S4. It will putt around with the GPU from last years Evo 3d, have 1 GB of ram, and, if we're lucky, a 12mp camera...yay. If that really is what we're getting, I might not upgrade this year and wait until next year.

    I don't think that the S4 version of the GS3 will be the phone that can justify the hype and secrecy behind it.

    Is it a good thing that we haven't seen any benchmarks of a phone identifying itself as a GS3 with a S4 processor in it? Just a while ago I was worried I had to "settle" for the 4212, but now I am hoping for it. Please Samsung, don't make us settle for the S4!!!
    04-25-2012 09:08 PM
  11. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    what is YOUR problem? What makes you think the A15 variants aren't ready yet? Do you have inside information? We know that Samsung stated earlier this year that the chip would be ready in Q2. And what's today's date?

    Most people on this forum don't care about cores so I don't get why you are screaming nonsense about quad core. The point is, they so called flagship device won't be any better than others already out. That's the point.
    I believe they said it would be sampling in Q2, right? Not actually shipping in a device.

    And if the next iPhone is going to be announced in the next 2-3 months then the specs are already set in stone, CPU/GPU wise. Development cycles are typically 8-12 months. So when the 4S was announced they were already working on the next thing. Same with Samsung. The SGSII was announced, but they were already working on the next version.

    These aren't PC's were you can just swap one CPU for another. Maybe one day....

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    04-25-2012 09:08 PM
  12. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Yea man. I'm with you. I like the products too. I personally just wished that Samsung would take this opportunity to set the new standards. Oh well.
    IMHO they did with the SGSII.

    Sent from my Inspire 4G using Android Central Forums
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    04-25-2012 09:09 PM
  13. MannyZ28's Avatar
    Rumors over rumors...remember this article from March 19th?

    Samsung exec reportedly confirms quad-core Exynos, 4G LTE in Galaxy S III

    Same story again, but from Engadget.

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/19/u...-galaxy-s-iii/
    04-25-2012 09:20 PM
  14. s14tat's Avatar
    If this phone has the same processor as the one x, I might as well go with htc for the first time since the screen on the one x is going to be better. Samsung has the reputation of having the best cpu/gpu since the original galaxy s. Not having LTE work with the Exynos is a huge over sight since they knew it didn't work since the GS2, they had almost a whole year to make it work!!!! Why do we always get the gimped out phones? First the galaxy nexus, the galaxy note, the t mobile GS2, and the GS2 SR.
    04-25-2012 09:29 PM
  15. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Same source for both articles. Being written on two different sites doesn't make it any more reputable. One thing to note, it says that it'll feature LTE connectivity, but not that it's built-in to the SoC. This would mean that it'll have a separate baseband for LTE connectivity, like the Charge and Galaxy Nexus do now. Battery life will suffer compared to the S4 in the US One X.

    The Adreno 225 in the S4 is clocked higher (and a better design) than in the Snapdragon S3, also, the CPU is worlds better than the Snapdragon S3. Blame Sense 3.0 for the Evo 3D feeling slow, because that's why it does. Any idea what HTC had to do to get the 3D working right? Yeah, me neither, but I'm sure it took a lot of modification of deep level code and API's. Kudos to them for getting it to the level they did, but the non-3D Sense 3.x phones were noticeably smoother. It's almost like HTC was working on the code as they went.

    Let's be honest here, too, nothing we do really drives these processors to 100% full load anyway, even Tegrazone games that are designed to maximize the performance on Tegra chips.
    04-25-2012 09:34 PM
  16. rlb's Avatar
    Does this S4 chip have the battery saving benefits of the Tegra 3 and A15 chips?
    04-25-2012 09:37 PM
  17. Starfleet Captain's Avatar
    Sprint customers like myself were lucky to get the Exynos in their version of the GS2, but now that Sprint is ditching Wimax and going with LTE.....ugh...I hope we're not getting the S4. While it in itself is a good chip, it's the GPU that sucks. It's the Adreno 225 that was already in the Evo 3d! I traded that phone in for the GS2 because it felt so slow. I am confused about the supposed non LTE compatibility of the 4412 and 5250, I thought they both did have LTE compatibility. Did a quick google search on it and couldn't find anything about it since most articles I found go back to September of last year.

    Lets think about what we get if the US versions really are based on the S4. We get a phone that has the innards of the MID RANGE HTC One series, because remember, they only put the S4 into the One X because they have to, for the european market, the One X gets the Tegra 3 and the One S, the midrange phone, gets the S4. It will putt around with the GPU from last years Evo 3d, have 1 GB of ram, and, if we're lucky, a 12mp camera...yay. If that really is what we're getting, I might not upgrade this year and wait until next year.

    I don't think that the S4 version of the GS3 will be the phone that can justify the hype and secrecy behind it.

    Is it a good thing that we haven't seen any benchmarks of a phone identifying itself as a GS3 with a S4 processor in it? Just a while ago I was worried I had to "settle" for the 4212, but now I am hoping for it. Please Samsung, don't make us settle for the S4!!!
    NOPE! The Evo 3D has the Adreno 220 NOT the 225! The Adreno 225 is a much better GPU than the 220 that's in the Evo 3D... Time to do more research. The s4 has the Adreno 225 GPU built in. And the US HTC ONE Series phones are NO WHERE NEAR Mid-range devices. The dual core s4 chip (based on A15 architecture) is about on the same level as the quad core Tegra 3 chip (based on A9 architecture).

    Dude, lighten up...
    04-25-2012 09:41 PM
  18. Orion78's Avatar
    It's looking like a very educated guess rumor-a-jig thing.

    And it's not looking very good. At least for us US of A citizens it isn't looking good.
    What else is new? I so hope this isn't true.
    04-25-2012 09:44 PM
  19. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    NOPE! The Evo 3D has the Adreno 220 NOT the 225! The Adreno 225 is a much better GPU than the 220 that's in the Evo 3D... Time to do more research. The s4 has the Adreno 225 GPU built in. And the US HTC ONE Series phones are NO WHERE NEAR Mid-range devices. The dual core s4 chip (based on A15 architecture) is about on the same level as the quad core Tegra 3 chip (based on A9 architecture).

    Dude, lighten up...
    Based on A15 instruction set, not ARM's architecture. Qualcomm only licenses the instruction set, but they make their own architecture. That's why their chips are so good on battery, typically, because they can custom make the architecture for what it's going to be doing.

    Anybody that thinks the One X with the S4 is a mid-range phone is making a guess based on what? The fact that the One S has the same chip? You know what that tells me? That HTC made two high-end phones and is just marketing one as mid-range. The mid-range phone game just got shaken up pretty good by HTC.
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    04-25-2012 09:48 PM
  20. Starfleet Captain's Avatar
    Does this S4 chip have the battery saving benefits of the Tegra 3 and A15 chips?
    S4 is A15 architecture instruction set.
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    04-25-2012 09:52 PM
  21. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Does this S4 chip have the battery saving benefits of the Tegra 3 and A15 chips?
    S4 is A15 architecture instruction set.
    The Tegra 3 has it's own personal battery saving trick, a 5th core that is low power that takes over when idle and doing mundane tasks. The other 4 "full-power" cores use just as much battery as any other A9-based chip.

    The A15 will have battery benefits because of a new architecture and a shift to smaller production processes.

    The S4 is built on the 28nm process already, so it has that going for it. It's also based on the a15 instruction set, which includes ways to save battery. Also, because they can design the architecture anyway they want they can do other things to save battery. Honestly Qualcomm isn't completely open when it comes to details about their designs, but so far they've worked well.
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    04-25-2012 09:58 PM
  22. bojack72's Avatar
    looks like the galaxy 3 will get the 1.4GHz Exynos 4 Quad, lets hope verizon get this

    Samsung announces 1.4GHz Exynos 4 Quad as basis for Galaxy S3 -- Engadget
    04-25-2012 10:09 PM
  23. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    The Tegra 3 has it's own personal battery saving trick, a 5th core that is low power that takes over when idle and doing mundane tasks. The other 4 "full-power" cores use just as much battery as any other A9-based chip.

    The A15 will have battery benefits because of a new architecture and a shift to smaller production processes.

    The S4 is built on the 28nm process already, so it has that going for it. It's also based on the a15 instruction set, which includes ways to save battery. Also, because they can design the architecture anyway they want they can do other things to save battery. Honestly Qualcomm isn't completely open when it comes to details about their designs, but so far they've worked well.
    However, current benchmarks show that the quad exynos is better in every way than the S4. Therefore, it looks more Nvidia dropped the ball more than Qualcomm being inovative.
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    04-25-2012 10:11 PM
  24. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    looks like the galaxy 3 will get the 1.4GHz Exynos 4 Quad, lets hope verizon get this

    Samsung announces 1.4GHz Exynos 4 Quad as basis for Galaxy S3 -- Engadget
    Not a word about LTE. F!
    04-25-2012 10:14 PM
  25. MannyZ28's Avatar
    The reviews for the one s as well as the one X were mostly positive eventhough there were complaints of sluggishness to be heard. Whether this was due to overly sensitive reviewers or the chip or ics or combination of all is hard to tell. The 225 is slightly better than the 220 but it's not as fast as the 305 which is supposed to ship later in the year.

    My point though is that the gs2 was a big step over all the other phones that were out there at the same time, but putting a s4 in there for the US Version is a bit of a letdown. Granted, I never got to play with a snapdragon powered gs2 but based on the video reviews I have seen, the exynos version was definitely faster.

    One more and we will know more.
    04-25-2012 10:15 PM
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