11-26-2012 07:55 PM
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  1. Crispy's Avatar
    The question everyone has to decide for themselves - is the screen enough to make you choose HTC?

    The LCD screen is the only clear advantage the One series has, and there are some other factors to consider - e.g. visibility in daylight, the effect of the color modes, vibrancy vs natural color etc. I will be the first to admit that Pentile+SAMOLED is not the best tech in the world and has issues, but the end product is what we judge.

    Apart from that, the cameras are pretty close, and then what we are left with is a huge list of features on the GS3 which HTC cannot match. The software on GS3 is better (TouchWiz, browser, multitaskting) and it has more hardware features, but that may not matter to some people. It also comes unlocked and with good dev support which is very imp to me.

    The Evo 4G LTE is a much better competitor than the One X since it has sd card and approx the same size battery.

    In the end, pick what you like best, can't go wrong with any of these amazing phones. All this fighting and attacks are pointless.
    05-15-2012 02:39 PM
  2. Crispy's Avatar
    HTC One X issue breaks Android multi-tasking

    Reason enough not to get the One X.
    05-15-2012 04:20 PM
  3. snoopyandroid's Avatar
    HTC One X issue breaks Android multi-tasking

    Reason enough not to get the One X.
    Wow, not good.
    05-15-2012 04:30 PM
  4. Crispy's Avatar
    I find it hard to believe no reviews have mentioned such a huge problem, if it exists. I'm guessing its either non-final software, or HTC did this to save battery life.

    edit - according to a post on XDA - "The problem is HTC stated that the phone is working the way is intended to be. I would wait for a solution if HTC acknowledge the problem which they haven't"
    05-15-2012 04:35 PM
  5. crackberrytraitor's Avatar
    HTC One X issue breaks Android multi-tasking

    Reason enough not to get the One X.
    Will be fixed in a matter of days, though not by htc.
    05-15-2012 04:49 PM
  6. snoopyandroid's Avatar
    Will be fixed in a matter of days, though not by htc.
    By who? If it's XDA, then you need to root your phone and I'd say most people don't do that.
    05-15-2012 04:52 PM
  7. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Which manufacturer/company makes High Definition TV sets worldwide?!?! I also believe they are the leader in production/sales of HDTVs as well. Exactly!! You can keep your washed out/AuNatural/Greyish blacks looking LCD sceen. I'll stick with my **HDTV in the PALM of my hands** sucky PenTile screen!
    Just wanted to point out that all those tv's you're talking about are LCD with an RGB layout. Not a single one is AMOLED.

    Technologically the SLCD2 should look better if it's properly calibrated. The reason is simple. Color gamut. The performance of the SLCD2 (and LCD in general) is more in line with the source material that we use on a daily basis. If you look at the color gamut that both technologies are capable of the AMOLED is way ahead, which means it's capable of displaying a wider range of colors, which should be a good thing. But for us it's not. The reason is simple. It's capable of displaying MORE colors than are actually being supplied to it, which it what causes the over-saturation. Because it's capable of displaying more colors, the ones that aren't supplied by the source still have to get used. So at the far ends of the spectrum colors get "crushed" and make things look over-saturated. This can't be easily fixed by calibration. It would take a source outputting those extra colors to actually fix the problem the right way.

    In short, you wouldn't use a professional computer monitor designed for final print work to do web browsing with. Colors would be off, contrast would be off, white level and balance would be off. It just wouldn't be a good experience. Take that same monitor, and supply it with a source that can provide all the extra relevant information and it'll look amazing. This is basically what's happening with AMOLED in phones right now. It's capable of so much more, but because of that, performance leaves something to be desired.

    LCD, by it's nature, is designed to work better with the "limited" colors provided by todays sources. If anybody wants a more detailed explanation please ask, and I'll try to explain more.
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    05-15-2012 04:53 PM
  8. Nashstruck's Avatar
    Just wanted to point out that all those tv's you're talking about are LCD with an RGB layout. Not a single one is AMOLED.

    Technologically the SLCD2 should look better if it's properly calibrated. The reason is simple. Color gamut. The performance of the SLCD2 (and LCD in general) is more in line with the source material that we use on a daily basis. If you look at the color gamut that both technologies are capable of the AMOLED is way ahead, which means it's capable of displaying a wider range of colors, which should be a good thing. But for us it's not. The reason is simple. It's capable of displaying MORE colors than are actually being supplied to it, which it what causes the over-saturation. Because it's capable of displaying more colors, the ones that aren't supplied by the source still have to get used. So at the far ends of the spectrum colors get "crushed" and make things look over-saturated. This can't be easily fixed by calibration. It would take a source outputting those extra colors to actually fix the problem the right way.

    In short, you wouldn't use a professional computer monitor designed for final print work to do web browsing with. Colors would be off, contrast would be off, white level and balance would be off. It just wouldn't be a good experience. Take that same monitor, and supply it with a source that can provide all the extra relevant information and it'll look amazing. This is basically what's happening with AMOLED in phones right now. It's capable of so much more, but because of that, performance leaves something to be desired.

    LCD, by it's nature, is designed to work better with the "limited" colors provided by todays sources. If anybody wants a more detailed explanation please ask, and I'll try to explain more.
    Then why did Samsung choose to put it in?
    Cheaper?
    05-15-2012 05:15 PM
  9. Droid800's Avatar
    Then why did Samsung choose to put it in?
    Cheaper?
    Pride. They don't want to admit their pride and joy, in its current form, is a big 'ole dud compare to competitors.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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    05-15-2012 05:19 PM
  10. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Then why did Samsung choose to put it in?
    Cheaper?
    Maybe cheaper. Maybe marketing. It does have some distinct advantages, like black level. Our eyes are very sensitive to changes in blacks and dark grays (think shadows in movies) so if you can nail that part you've done a lot to say you have awesome picture quality. But that comes with a trade-off of accurate colors in other areas. Even in the sample images I've seen skin tones are noticeably off.

    Watch The Dark Knight on an AMOLED display and you'll see what I'm talking about. The dark scenes look absolutely amazing, but the outdoor scenes (especially the ones shot with IMAX) look off a bit.

    Both displays are good, no doubt, but technologically the SLCD2 is the superior display.

    Samsung did admit that SAMOLED uses pentile for longevity. Honestly, that sounds kinda like a cop out. It's like admitting your display won't last for as long as you own your phone. I had an SGSII. and it has SAMOLED+, does that mean my display would've went out BEFORE i got rid of the phone? I would like to see more information about this straight from Samsung. What exactly is the lifespan of the blue subpixel? Is lasting two years (and not much longer) considered acceptable? And if it's acceptable to Samsung does that make it acceptable to consumers?

    I would also like to see this for LCD's, but we've never really seen anywhere where a particular part of the display needs to have a "work-around" because it's going to fail before the rest. My CCFL backlight on my LCD tv at home has been going strong for 5 years, and that's the first part expected to fail.
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    05-15-2012 05:27 PM
  11. Crispy's Avatar
    Its also worth remembering that the SLCD2 screen in the One X is made by Samsung. They are the world leaders in display tech. And could've chosen that screen for the GS3, but the reasons they didn't are -

    1. Galaxy series is associated with AMOLED. And Samsung has many different versions. e.g. the Note has a Pentile AMOLED screen, but its almost 2x brighter than either the Nexus or the GS3 versions. GS2 got a non-Pentile version. People expect the deep blacks and vibrant colors, or at least that's what Samsung marketing thinks.

    2. Samsung already have the next version ready. The Tizen dev phone has a non-Pentile AMOLED HD display which will soon be in their next phone.
    05-15-2012 07:53 PM
  12. Crispy's Avatar
    By who? If it's XDA, then you need to root your phone and I'd say most people don't do that.
    Exactly. HTC has said they don't see anything wrong, and even if they admitted they made a mistake, the fix will take months.
    05-15-2012 07:54 PM
  13. Crispy's Avatar
    Full details - http://www.androidcentral.com/multit...its-customized

    Its absolutely HTC's fault and I don't see how anyone can use thier phones with this sort of nonSense.
    05-15-2012 08:00 PM
  14. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Its also worth remembering that the SLCD2 screen in the One X is made by Samsung. They are the world leaders in display tech. And could've chosen that screen for the GS3, but the reasons they didn't are -

    1. Galaxy series is associated with AMOLED. And Samsung has many different versions. e.g. the Note has a Pentile AMOLED screen, but its almost 2x brighter than either the Nexus or the GS3 versions. GS2 got a non-Pentile version. People expect the deep blacks and vibrant colors, or at least that's what Samsung marketing thinks.

    2. Samsung already have the next version ready. The Tizen dev phone has a non-Pentile AMOLED HD display which will soon be in their next phone.
    Sharp, Acer, and Sony make the One X displays, with the AT&T One X apparently being exclusively the Sony.

    People are also saying that Sony display is by far the best out of the three.

    Sent from my HTC One X using Android Central Forums
    05-15-2012 09:27 PM
  15. Droid800's Avatar
    Its also worth remembering that the SLCD2 screen in the One X is made by Samsung. They are the world leaders in display tech. And could've chosen that screen for the GS3, but the reasons they didn't are -

    1. Galaxy series is associated with AMOLED. And Samsung has many different versions. e.g. the Note has a Pentile AMOLED screen, but its almost 2x brighter than either the Nexus or the GS3 versions. GS2 got a non-Pentile version. People expect the deep blacks and vibrant colors, or at least that's what Samsung marketing thinks.

    2. Samsung already have the next version ready. The Tizen dev phone has a non-Pentile AMOLED HD display which will soon be in their next phone.
    Sony actually makes HTCs Super LCD screens.
    05-15-2012 11:24 PM
  16. sirheck's Avatar
    Foxconn makes them all.

    Foxconn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Foxconn manufactures products for companies including:

    (country of headquarters in parentheses)

    Acer Inc. (Taiwan)[36]
    Amazon.com (United States)[37]
    Apple Inc. (United States)[38]
    Cisco (United States)[39]
    Dell (United States)[40]
    Hewlett-Packard (United States)[41]
    Intel (United States)[42]
    Microsoft (United States)[43]
    Motorola Mobility (United States)[40]
    Nintendo (Japan)[44]
    Nokia (Finland)[38]
    Samsung Electronics (South Korea)[45]
    Sony (Japan)[46]
    Toshiba (Japan) [47]
    Vizio (United States)[48]
    05-16-2012 02:29 AM
  17. wilfreb's Avatar
    ''The 4.8" Super AMOLED of HD resolution is where the Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III magic happens. The image quality is every bit as impressive as its specs suggest - tack sharp and with perfectly deep blacks, it's probably the best you can find on the market''

    Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III review: S to the third - GSMArena.com
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    05-20-2012 06:09 PM
  18. matt0715's Avatar
    Oh no not this thread again...

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Android Central Forums
    05-20-2012 07:30 PM
  19. Droid800's Avatar
    ''The 4.8" Super AMOLED of HD resolution is where the Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III magic happens. The image quality is every bit as impressive as its specs suggest - tack sharp and with perfectly deep blacks, it's probably the best you can find on the market''

    Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III review: S to the third - GSMArena.com
    gsmarena is not credible.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    05-20-2012 10:08 PM
  20. LazrRocketArm's Avatar
    gsmarena is not credible.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Because you say so?
    05-20-2012 10:30 PM
  21. matt0715's Avatar
    gsmarena is not credible.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Uhhhh.... gsmarena has a device in hand so how is it not credible...

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Android Central Forums
    05-20-2012 10:49 PM
  22. Droid800's Avatar
    Uhhhh.... gsmarena has a device in hand so how is it not credible...

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Android Central Forums
    Just because they have a device does not mean their opinion is credible.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    05-21-2012 04:38 AM
  23. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    It's also just an opinion. One not shared by a majority of the people/sites that have seen the two displays side-by-side.

    Again...it's not a terrible display, far from it from what I've seen and heard actually, but the consensus is that overall the SLCD2 display is better in quite a few areas.
    05-21-2012 09:23 AM
  24. matt0715's Avatar
    Just because they have a device does not mean their opinion is credible.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Well that means any site isn't credible, whatever its not worth arguing about

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Android Central Forums
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    05-21-2012 01:50 PM
  25. jontalk's Avatar
    Seems to me you guys are in a battle over the screen. Meantime, it seems to me the GS3 has many software advantages over the One X not to mention the fact it has a REMOVABLE battery that's also larger, microSD slot, etc. etc. Since I haven't made the jump to Android yet but will no doubt be getting either the Skyrocket, GS3 or One X (once the bugs are worked out), there are some strong pros and cons for all these devices.

    I think that none of us can really state which is better until we have them in our hands here in the US and then can see which works best for us individually. Amazon dropped the price on the One X to $120 and the Skyrocket to $40 making both options very intriguing as of now.

    I am really eager to see how the GS3 functions in person before making any conclusions myself
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    05-21-2012 02:56 PM
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