08-15-2012 04:14 PM
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  1. Roboticz's Avatar
    I noticed this "article" yesterday posted on our sister Apple user website iMore.com. Check out the article AND the comments! Be sure to let your opinions be known if you have them. He basically is just saying that Samsung is a sham and that everything they do is just a copy of Apple.

    Funny enough as I was reading thru the comments I noticed that some of the pro-Android responses seem to disappear now and then... lol

    Here's a link to the article: Editor's desk: Where's the Samsung shaped dent in the universe? | iMore.com

    I was actually surprised this was written by their SENIOR Editor!
    08-13-2012 08:13 AM
  2. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    In his story, he conveniently left out that apple sues for features they got from other companies.

    They haven't sued for it, but I seem to remember the pull down menu coming from android.

    Apple is hypocrites.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy SIII
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    08-13-2012 09:07 AM
  3. Rev2010's Avatar
    Wow, that was sad. "Their gallery icon is a flower with a blue background", call the whaaambulance. I posted already. No Apple user seems to care of course that Apple copied the notification bar, copied Xerox's mouse and GUI ideas, etc.


    Rev.
    08-13-2012 09:17 AM
  4. Suntan's Avatar
    Regardless of which site it is talking about which device, I find it sad, poor journalism when actual staffers "go on a rant."

    You should have seen the multitude of unprofessional "rants" that flew around on the "Precentral" blog around the time the Palm franchise was circling the drain.

    If people want blog sites to be treated as legitimate, they need to act like they deserve to be treaded legitimately.

    At the bare minimum, do it the way real reports blatantly show their favoritism; by quoting someone not affiliated with the news outlet.

    -Suntan
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    08-13-2012 12:51 PM
  5. WhoMe's Avatar
    The real question is....besides lawyers, fan boys and, editor/bloggers...no one cares. A slab is a slab.

    Would you like an Android slab or an Apple slab. Clearly Apple isnt hurting and neither is Samsung, the competitive market is working in thier favor.

    Dont pay these rants too much time, they are designed to get clicks. Mission accomplished.
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    08-13-2012 01:00 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    I noticed this "article" yesterday posted on our sister Apple user website iMore.com. Check out the article AND the comments! Be sure to let your opinions be known if you have them. He basically is just saying that Samsung is a sham and that everything they do is just a copy of Apple.

    Funny enough as I was reading thru the comments I noticed that some of the pro-Android responses seem to disappear now and then... lol

    Here's a link to the article: Editor's desk: Where's the Samsung shaped dent in the universe? | iMore.com

    I was actually surprised this was written by their SENIOR Editor!
    Not just Apple, but also BlackBerry (Samsung Blackjack) and Palm.

    As an Android fan, I can see blatant examples of Samsung copying Apple. When Apple vs. Samsung first broke, Nilay Patel and company over at the Verge/This Is My Next had a great breakdown of exactly what Samsung copied. I mean really- music player icon has a CD in it?

    Samsung even tried copying the Apple dock connector. lol.

    And when Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell one of Samsung's own Tab devices apart from an iPad (German court? It was somewhere in Europe, I think), Samsung loses credibility with me.

    Go ahead and flame away.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
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    08-13-2012 01:10 PM
  7. Tkbredx's Avatar
    Regardless of which site it is talking about which device, I find it sad, poor journalism when actual staffers "go on a rant."

    You should have seen the multitude of unprofessional "rants" that flew around on the "Precentral" blog around the time the Palm franchise was circling the drain.

    If people want blog sites to be treated as legitimate, they need to act like they deserve to be treaded legitimately.

    At the bare minimum, do it the way real reports blatantly show their favoritism; by quoting someone not affiliated with the news outlet.

    -Suntan
    Precentral had every right to rant after Palm and hp ran what could've been the greatest mobile os to exist right in to the ground. I truly was heart broken. I thought we were going to bounce back. Kept my pre 3 years...

    Any ways Apple is full of crap they complain about a Google search function that originally started with webOS... And they took notification bar from android. They are so aggravating
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    08-13-2012 01:12 PM
  8. g1toevo678's Avatar
    Samsung Blackjack! Lol I wonder how long it took them to come up with that one.

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    08-13-2012 01:20 PM
  9. subastion's Avatar
    There are only so many ways to make a match stick.
    08-13-2012 01:23 PM
  10. PookiePrancer's Avatar
    Not just Apple, but also BlackBerry (Samsung Blackjack) and Palm.

    As an Android fan, I can see blatant examples of Samsung copying Apple. When Apple vs. Samsung first broke, Nilay Patel and company over at the Verge/This Is My Next had a great breakdown of exactly what Samsung copied. I mean really- music player icon has a CD in it?

    Samsung even tried copying the Apple dock connector. lol.

    And when Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell one of Samsung's own Tab devices apart from an iPad (German court? It was somewhere in Europe, I think), Samsung loses credibility with me.

    Go ahead and flame away.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    The "Apple" dock connector? No need to flame....

    Search for "Has Apple really ever invented anything" on YouTube. You need to.
    08-13-2012 02:31 PM
  11. Roboticz's Avatar
    Guys... take a look at this video...

    [YT]watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4[/YT]

    08-13-2012 02:37 PM
  12. PookiePrancer's Avatar
    Guys... take a look at this video...

    Click to view quoted video

    Amazing how logical and common sense it all is...except it gets lost on so many.
    08-13-2012 03:01 PM
  13. funkylogik's Avatar
    that was actualy an ok read. not as poisonus as i thought. i can see that samsung use (copy) things that work but i dont see that as a bad thing for us, the consumer
    08-13-2012 03:02 PM
  14. Splange's Avatar
    I actually came around to agreeing with much of the article. Whatever you can say about the patents, it's clear that Samsung copies its competitors on the trade dress part.

    I also think it's okay for him to rant about it, this is a blog we're talking about, a professional blog but nonetheless it's permissible for him to be informal.

    That being said, I had to really disagree with him on calling the s3 a palm clone. The two phones are nothing alike except that they have curved designs. It's a stretch to imagine that Samsung set out to build a pre knock off. No sane individual could mistake the two. So To recap, if Samsung makes straight line designs they're copying Apple, but if they curve them they're copying palm? Doesn't make much sense.

    The Lumia 900,which everyone including apple points to as a form factor that's different from the iPhone, has more in common with the Iphone than the s3 has with the pre.

    I also generally disagree with rene's opinion on the s3 (expressed in this and other articles) as being uninspiring with great specs and nothing more. I understand that it's subjective but to me it just sounds like a dismissive excuse.

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    08-13-2012 03:12 PM
  15. funkylogik's Avatar
    yeah the s3/palm thing was rediculous man. a phone can either be squared or rounded lol either way sammy could have been accused of copying. even the BB thing, all the manufacturers had bb clones coz touchscreens just werent good enough to type on. nokia did it very blatantly too
    08-13-2012 03:16 PM
  16. planoman's Avatar
    Huge android fan here having owned 7 android phones, four of them Samsung. I agree that many of Samsung products look similar to competitors including iphone and ipad. There are many instances in which this occurs in business. Although they may look the same I feel they are differentiated enough in the way the products work. Jobs hated Google because he felt that android was a stolen product. Samsung just packaged it in a similar manner.

    Of course I thought Rene was reaching comparing the SGSIII to the palm pre...I think this lawsuit has gotten serious because Apple knows it cannot compete with Samsung in the business cycle of the smart phone so it is trying to slow Samsung down. As a consumer I like the business cycle of Samsung and as a shareholder of Apple and Google, I am happy so let the chips fall where they may.

    I suspect there are enough of these cases in history to show precedence and that Samsung changes the products enough to avoid judgment...I hope.
    08-13-2012 04:13 PM
  17. Ry's Avatar
    The "Apple" dock connector? No need to flame....

    Search for "Has Apple really ever invented anything" on YouTube. You need to.
    Until the GS3 (and the Note), I've always seen Samsung as reactionary company. They've always followed more than they've led, in my opinion.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    08-13-2012 04:35 PM
  18. funkylogik's Avatar
    yeah the note is a really good example of samsung innovating
    08-13-2012 04:38 PM
  19. Ry's Avatar
    Huge android fan here having owned 7 android phones, four of them Samsung. I agree that many of Samsung products look similar to competitors including iphone and ipad. There are many instances in which this occurs in business. Although they may look the same I feel they are differentiated enough in the way the products work. Jobs hated Google because he felt that android was a stolen product. Samsung just packaged it in a similar manner.

    Of course I thought Rene was reaching comparing the SGSIII to the palm pre...I think this lawsuit has gotten serious because Apple knows it cannot compete with Samsung in the business cycle of the smart phone so it is trying to slow Samsung down. As a consumer I like the business cycle of Samsung and as a shareholder of Apple and Google, I am happy so let the chips fall where they may.

    I suspect there are enough of these cases in history to show precedence and that Samsung changes the products enough to avoid judgment...I hope.
    I agree that the Pre/GS3 comparison was a reach.

    I will disagree about Apple doing these lawsuits because they can't compete. As long as Apple's is raking in huge profit, they'll be just fine. Marketshare to me isn't that relevant when Apple is losing that battle yet brings in more money than anyone else.



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    08-13-2012 04:38 PM
  20. funkylogik's Avatar
    market share is important for apple content though
    08-13-2012 04:52 PM
  21. Ry's Avatar
    market share is important for apple content though
    It's important. But the numbers clearly show that even though Apple is behind, they're still doing record profit.

    Cue the "Apple is expensive", "Apple Tax", and "Apple overcharges" posts.

    People that buy into the iOS ecosystem clearly spend more money within that ecosystem.
    08-13-2012 05:05 PM
  22. funkylogik's Avatar
    yeah id say thats true mate. android users seem to be a bit more thrifty
    08-13-2012 05:29 PM
  23. the1m.polo's Avatar
    Guys... take a look at this video...

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    This is a summary of what I've preaching and debating to people... Thank you!!!

    Sent from my GS3....
    08-13-2012 05:46 PM
  24. BlakeGates's Avatar
    It's important. But the numbers clearly show that even though Apple is behind, they're still doing record profit.

    Cue the "Apple is expensive", "Apple Tax", and "Apple overcharges" posts.

    People that buy into the iOS ecosystem clearly spend more money within that ecosystem.
    Profits are important just as anything else, but in terms of this technology, market share has to show precedent. Yea its great to make a ton of money, but if that money is coming from the same small group of people who are forced to by your newest products once a year because you refuse to give them any "upgrade" avenue, then in the grand scheme of consumer electronics, your product isn't worth much.

    Market share is the important factor here because that's what shows what consumers are buying. Much, much more important than net profit. I guarantee that the company economists would tell you the same exact thing. They (along with most companies) want their products in as many hands as possible. And as of right now, Android is doing that better than anyone.

    The bottom line is obviously important to any company, but the point you pointed out is being worn out by fans of Apple. Who cares how much money they are making if its just the same, relatively small group of people purchasing their products over and over. Profit is a moot point.

    Sent from my Samsung E4GT running CM9 Alpha 6 FG31
    08-13-2012 06:03 PM
  25. funkylogik's Avatar
    yeah android is doin better than iOs but if u think of apple as purely a handset manufacturer.. theyre doing very well
    08-13-2012 06:10 PM
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