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  1. Ry's Avatar
    The only problem I see isn't with Apple licensing the patents, but rather them charging a hefty fee for them.
    Agreed.

    Let's not forget - Apple did try to settle with Samsung.
    08-29-2012 10:30 PM
  2. GMJeff's Avatar
    Apple could have cared less about settling with Samsung. They knew they were heading into a courtroom heavily favored because Samsung didn't have all of their eggs in one basket. Apple was the shark in the pool and Samsung was the bleeding victim.

    Apple wanted a heavy sledgehammer like verdict and received it. It was a way of telling Samsung not to play in their sandbox.

    As for the SIII, Apple didn't include it in the original lawsuit because it hadn't been released yet. They did try to include the first Galaxy Note, but i guess they couldn't find enough evidence of copying due to the newer touchwiz interface that had been updated from previous versions.

    All in all, as for the hating Apple thing..............I am 100% for it.

    The iceberg is coming, and will soon meet Apple's Titanic ego.

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    08-29-2012 10:50 PM
  3. 534n's Avatar
    Let's also not forget, again, that apple did not develop many of the things it has patents for. I seriously, SERIOUSLY, hope the giant Google does the same thing to apple and then some as it did to Samsung. I would love to see apple be the whimpering dog.

    DWa!
    08-29-2012 10:57 PM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    Let's also not forget, again, that apple did not develop many of the things it has patents for. I seriously, SERIOUSLY, hope the giant Google does the same thing to apple and then some as it did to Samsung. I would love to see apple be the whimpering dog.

    DWa!
    I'd ask you to prove your statement that "Apple did not develop many of the things it has patents for" but you probably wouldn't want to look it up and back up your statement with facts.
    08-30-2012 12:39 AM
  5. 534n's Avatar
    I'd ask you to prove your statement that "Apple did not develop many of the things it has patents for" but you probably wouldn't want to look it up and back up your statement with facts.
    I could ask you to do the same thing and show that they did. I have already listed one item that was found that came before apple's patent. I will get the others and find the original dev when I have a little time. I appreciate your sarcasm in support for your interests, though.
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    08-30-2012 12:43 AM
  6. gollum18's Avatar
    I don't think you should I love going into our local apple store and seeing the looks on everyone's faces whrn I shoe off all the s3s amazing features.

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    08-30-2012 01:14 AM
  7. XChrisX's Avatar
    Agreed.

    Let's not forget - Apple did try to settle with Samsung.
    I also read that Apple wanted a ridiculous $30 per handset as well. Whether or not they set the price so high to deter Samsung from using their patents at all, or what is a different story. But it sounds like Apple didn't really want to license them out to a company that was gaining ground on them. Easy enough to license them to MS, when their Mobile OS isn't affecting Apples sales.
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    08-30-2012 07:14 AM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    I also read that Apple wanted a ridiculous $30 per handset as well. Whether or not they set the price so high to deter Samsung from using their patents at all, or what is a different story. But it sounds like Apple didn't really want to license them out to a company that was gaining ground on them. Easy enough to license them to MS, when their Mobile OS isn't affecting Apples sales.
    $40 for tablets, $30 for phones.

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    08-30-2012 08:35 PM
  9. SteveISU's Avatar
    So now that Tim Cook is talking with Google does anyone think Apple is looking at potential issue with the Moto patents and the inevitable patent on the notification pull down (a major feature in iOS 5).

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    08-30-2012 08:44 PM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    So now that Tim Cook is talking with Google does anyone think Apple is looking at potential issue with the Moto patents and the inevitable patent on the notification pull down (a major feature in iOS 5).

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    You've read the breakdown of the pull down patent, right?

    Google doesn't own it yet.

    Apple may only currently infringe on a small part of it.



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    08-30-2012 09:33 PM
  11. SteveISU's Avatar
    You've read the breakdown of the pull down patent, right?

    Google doesn't own it yet.

    Apple may only currently infringe on a small part of it.



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    Yeah, that's why I said inevitable.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII
    08-30-2012 10:23 PM
  12. 534n's Avatar
    I don't think you should I love going into our local apple store and seeing the looks on everyone's faces whrn I shoe off all the s3s amazing features.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
    Wow. That is an AWESOME idea. I am totally going to stop at every apple store I pass now and go in and announce that people should go get a Samsung Galaxy S3 because it trumps the cheap (but expensive) apple phones!

    You, sir, are my first +1
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    08-31-2012 10:58 AM
  13. Datbouy's Avatar
    I have the S3 and iPad 3 and I don't have any issues. I use my iPad 3 for reading a lot. I save articles to my Pocket app on the S3 and read them on the iPad just like I used to do when I had the iPhone 4. The S3 is a great phone and the iPad 3 is a great tablet I highly recommend both. The biggest adjustment I had to make was the S3 size. It is more difficult to use with one hand, but it is hardly a big issue and all of the things it can do that iPhone can't outweigh it by a long shot.

    BTW, I personally think that this law suit will only drive further innovation from android as a whole.
    I also have a gs3 and ipad3 and I agree with u totally.
    09-05-2012 02:27 AM
  14. 534n's Avatar
    I have the S3 and iPad 3 and I don't have any issues. I use my iPad 3 for reading a lot. I save articles to my Pocket app on the S3 and read them on the iPad just like I used to do when I had the iPhone 4. The S3 is a great phone and the iPad 3 is a great tablet I highly recommend both. The biggest adjustment I had to make was the S3 size. It is more difficult to use with one hand, but it is hardly a big issue and all of the things it can do that iPhone can't outweigh it by a long shot.

    BTW, I personally think that this law suit will only drive further innovation from android as a whole.
    Heh, have you played with a Transformer? Those are my favorite tablets, although I am fairly interested in the Nexus 7, but I think the next gen Transformers will still be the best. I will be interested in trying Windows RT vs Windows 8 vs Android. I have Windows 8 now on several computers (the hardware of which is hardly fair to Android tablets) and I love it but the Windows RT for ARM will be interesting to try against Android.

    The Gecko project also looks like it may have potential if enough devs get into it. Just think, a mobile OS with zero bloatware or tracking backbones.

    All that said, my coworker had the new ipad and was jealous (he called it "serious tech-envy") of the TF700 that I showed him.
    09-05-2012 11:23 AM
  15. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Heh, have you played with a Transformer? Those are my favorite tablets, although I am fairly interested in the Nexus 7, but I think the next gen Transformers will still be the best. I will be interested in trying Windows RT vs Windows 8 vs Android. I have Windows 8 now on several computers (the hardware of which is hardly fair to Android tablets) and I love it but the Windows RT for ARM will be interesting to try against Android.

    The Gecko project also looks like it may have potential if enough devs get into it. Just think, a mobile OS with zero bloatware or tracking backbones.

    All that said, my coworker had the new ipad and was jealous (he called it "serious tech-envy") of the TF700 that I showed him.
    You, my friend, are well informed and know your tech!!

    How do you think the N7 matches up with the TF700?
    09-05-2012 11:31 AM
  16. 534n's Avatar
    You, my friend, are well informed and know your tech!!

    How do you think the N7 matches up with the TF700?
    Interestingly enough, they are both made by ASUS (just in case you weren't aware) and have EXACTLY the same hardware and base. The N7 is basically a 7 inch TF700 and easier to carry around. I will probably grab an N7 to play with since I love testing devices and seeing what they can do, but for productivity and heavy use, the TF700 cannot be beat.

    The devices are the same except for size, so whatever you need them for can safely be the deciding factor between the two. Only other differences are the N7 has no rear camera but instead has NFC and is 8-16GB vs 32-64GB, plus the obvious resolution difference of 1280x800 vs 1920x1200.
    09-05-2012 11:41 AM
  17. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Interestingly enough, they are both made by ASUS (just in case you weren't aware) and have EXACTLY the same hardware and base. The N7 is basically a 7 inch TF700 and easier to carry around. I will probably grab an N7 to play with since I love testing devices and seeing what they can do, but for productivity and heavy use, the TF700 cannot be beat.

    The devices are the same except for size, so whatever you need them for can safely be the deciding factor between the two. Only other differences are the N7 has no rear camera but instead has NFC and is 8-16GB vs 32-64GB, plus the obvious resolution difference of 1280x800 vs 1920x1200.
    I had no idea the N7 was made by Asus! This tablet would be for me so the more portable the better I suppose. My MAIN uses would be to read my class text books on the device, web surf, email and occasional 720p movies. BTW, what kind of productivity, heavy use can a tablet have that I perhaps might be unaware of??? I don't think you could trouble shoot networking systems with a tablet.....or can you?!
    09-05-2012 11:58 AM
  18. 534n's Avatar
    Well, Asus tablets come with Polaris Office for free which is a spreadsheet, presentation, and word processor and can read and edit both linux and MS office documents. I use RDP Enterprise and/or Splashtop when I need something that only Windows can do and I have a dedicated RDP/Splashtop server set up for that. There are also lots of tools for stuff on the Android market if you look for them for a specific issue. WiFi Analyzer is great for troubleshooting WiFi issues for example. Depends what programs you need specifically and you can install ubuntu on the Asus tablets and WINE now has an prototype ARM based emulator to run some Windows executables. But you can always just RDP to a computer that does the things you need it to or carry a mini computer with you that you can hook to a network and boot up then connect to either directly via wireless or over the network (if that is not the problem). I have a Foxconn N450 computer that I can almost fit in my pocket that I can use for such situations.

    You can also play games on the TF700 and it replaced my laptop for me. There is nothing I could do on the laptop that I can't do on the tablet. Not to mention the twin batteries is cool and the extra SD slot plus a USB port, along with the dock's keyboard and mouse. It is basically a 10.1 inch laptop with a battery that lasts all day with heavy use, and several days without. It also has a full HD screen PLUS the bar on the bottom, so you can get true 1080p images without cropping.

    If you have a specific interest or need (or more specific directives for the troubleshooting), I may be able to state for sure if the 700 can do it.
    09-05-2012 12:11 PM
  19. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Well, Asus tablets come with Polaris Office for free which is a spreadsheet, presentation, and word processor and can read and edit both linux and MS office documents. I use RDP Enterprise and/or Splashtop when I need something that only Windows can do and I have a dedicated RDP/Splashtop server set up for that. There are also lots of tools for stuff on the Android market if you look for them for a specific issue. WiFi Analyzer is great for troubleshooting WiFi issues for example. Depends what programs you need specifically and you can install ubuntu on the Asus tablets and WINE now has an prototype ARM based emulator to run some Windows executables. But you can always just RDP to a computer that does the things you need it to or carry a mini computer with you that you can hook to a network and boot up then connect to either directly via wireless or over the network (if that is not the problem). I have a Foxconn N450 computer that I can almost fit in my pocket that I can use for such situations.

    You can also play games on the TF700 and it replaced my laptop for me. There is nothing I could do on the laptop that I can't do on the tablet. Not to mention the twin batteries is cool and the extra SD slot plus a USB port, along with the dock's keyboard and mouse. It is basically a 10.1 inch laptop with a battery that lasts all day with heavy use, and several days without. It also has a full HD screen PLUS the bar on the bottom, so you can get true 1080p images without cropping.

    If you have a specific interest or need (or more specific directives for the troubleshooting), I may be able to state for sure if the 700 can do it.
    Thanks for the info! I'm most likely going to wait for the next gen Transformer for my first tablet.
    09-05-2012 12:21 PM
  20. 534n's Avatar
    Thanks for the info! I'm most likely going to wait for the next gen Transformer for my first tablet.
    Yep, just be aware that they will be Windows based. The 810 will be Windows 8 with an atom, and the 600 will be Windows RT with an ARM (likely the Tegra 3 if the 4 is not out by then - ASUS has been known to do last minute hardware swaps).
    09-05-2012 12:27 PM
  21. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Yep, just be aware that they will be Windows based. The 810 will be Windows 8 with an atom, and the 600 will be Windows RT with an ARM (likely the Tegra 3 if the 4 is not out by then - ASUS has been known to do last minute hardware swaps).
    Thanks a lot man!! I'm going to do my homework and see which will best suit my needs!
    09-05-2012 01:24 PM
  22. cwbcpa's Avatar
    Heh, have you played with a Transformer? Those are my favorite tablets, although I am fairly interested in the Nexus 7, but I think the next gen Transformers will still be the best. I will be interested in trying Windows RT vs Windows 8 vs Android. I have Windows 8 now on several computers (the hardware of which is hardly fair to Android tablets) and I love it but the Windows RT for ARM will be interesting to try against Android.

    The Gecko project also looks like it may have potential if enough devs get into it. Just think, a mobile OS with zero bloatware or tracking backbones.

    All that said, my coworker had the new ipad and was jealous (he called it "serious tech-envy") of the TF700 that I showed him.
    I have not played with a Transformer, but I will check it out. I am seriously considering passing the iPad to my wife and kids and getting an Android tablet for myself.
    09-05-2012 01:29 PM
  23. pauldroidr2d2's Avatar
    I have not played with a Transformer, but I will check it out. I am seriously considering passing the iPad to my wife and kids and getting an Android tablet for myself.
    I haven't played with Transformers since I was a kid...errr wait, that isn't what you meant.

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    09-05-2012 04:29 PM
  24. XChrisX's Avatar
    $40 for tablets, $30 for phones.

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    Those prices were specifically put into place to keep Samsung away. It's a shame really. Hopefully Hopefully Tim Cook, and Larry Page can smooth things over. iOS is good, but the 1 form factor of phone got old, there's no variety out there.
    09-06-2012 07:10 AM
  25. Tom S.'s Avatar
    Agreed.

    Let's not forget - Apple did try to settle with Samsung.
    It was the other way around.

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    09-06-2012 10:48 PM
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