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  1. bdmridgback's Avatar
    Apple is NOT a homegrown American company. They manufacture nothing in the USA, that is why all their products have that cheesy tramp stamp on it that says "Designed in California"

    I don't have a problem buying a foreign froduct from a foreign company...and I am a pure breed American Chevy and V-Twin chopper guy...and I DO NOT shop at Wal-Mart, ever!!!!

    I will not buy products from a company that has all their stuff made over seas and claims to be a true American company. If Samsung was based in the US and was making everything over seas and claimed to be an American company, I wouldn't buy from them either.

    That is the main reason I do not buy from Apple. Unchangeable batteries, locked eco system, tiny screens, blah blah blah just adds to it. Apple can suck it!

    I will go buy more Samsung goods until a TRUE American made smartphone come available! Like that will ever happen!





    Apple's opening court statement...
    "It's easier to copy than Innovate"

    Sent from my Innovative Galaxy S3
    08-27-2012 06:58 PM
  2. Tom S.'s Avatar
    This article sums up what a travesty this lawsuit is.


    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12082510525390

    These jurors are savants. One hundred and nine pages of jury instructions and 700 questions in 3 days.


    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    johnnyfr03 and Rev2010 like this.
    08-27-2012 07:33 PM
  3. dkeven's Avatar
    All this apple courtroom drama will have one likely outcome, stifled competetion for them, how many shapes can a phone take, how many ways can you use a search function, I will buy anything but apple from now on, seems all the super moderators are closet ifanatics, comon guys step away from the dark side
    08-27-2012 07:35 PM
  4. nodzarf's Avatar
    I'll support Samsung before knowingly buying anything made in China.
    08-27-2012 07:40 PM
  5. chubb's Avatar
    I don't feel bad. Hardly anything is made here in U.S.A. anymore. Products that are made here are usually more expensive. Case and Point. My edenpure heater. I bought the American made one because my dad actually rolled the metal for it. It was $100 bucks more, but has a 5 year warranty over a 3 year with the china made one. If it didn't have a direct family influence, I would have bought the chinese one.
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    08-27-2012 08:56 PM
  6. truthteller10's Avatar
    It will always amaze me when people state that if Apple brings all manufacturing to the US our prices will double and sometimes tripple. This is not even close to true. The problem here ladies and gentlemen is that Apple (especially) nor any company that built it's success from hard working American dollars no longer pratice the patriotism they should. Apple could very well manufacture every part of the the Iphone right here in the US and not raise the price one penny and still profit 50 billion in one year. But the problem lies in the market and the downright greed of the investor. If Apple doesn't meet it's profit goals of 78+ billion but still makes a substantial profit of 50billion the investor is still angry and the stock price falls. I mean who fusses about 50 billion in NET?.. In other words if we band together and fight against the greed and corruption of the system then we all win. Isn't it sickening to you that if a companies stock price falls 15% the first thing that is cut is the people that helped the company grow in the first? What ever happening to a rises stock due to the sustainablity and long life existence? That doesn't work anymore because if you don't beat that record breaking 78 billion you lose!!!
    chevyman29 likes this.
    08-28-2012 01:25 AM
  7. johnnyfr03's Avatar
    I'm with you!!!!!!!!
    08-28-2012 02:37 AM
  8. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    I think it's ironic that in that, in this case, supporting an American company would be UN-American. Apple gets its stuff from Samsung, and has their products assembled in our biggest competitor's country--China. Samsung, on the other hand, invested in creating jobs for Americans. People are just fooled by Apple, unfortunately.
    08-28-2012 03:22 AM
  9. funkylogik's Avatar
    its a global economy. im scottish and would rather buy Belgian beer than Scotch whiskey lol. the only homegrown thing i buy is illegal
    rexxman likes this.
    08-28-2012 03:22 AM
  10. jcp007's Avatar
    It is patently absurd to think that the Apple would absorb a $28 billion profit hit just to manufacture their products in the US. US wages whether unionized or not would be several times higher and you would expect Apple to absorb this impact to their profit? They also do not control their part sourcing which drives costs even more. Samsung controls part sourcing which gives them an advantage.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy S III Handheld Device
    08-28-2012 05:57 AM
  11. pauldroidr2d2's Avatar
    It will always amaze me when people state that if Apple brings all manufacturing to the US our prices will double and sometimes tripple. This is not even close to true. The problem here ladies and gentlemen is that Apple (especially) nor any company that built it's success from hard working American dollars no longer pratice the patriotism they should. Apple could very well manufacture every part of the the Iphone right here in the US and not raise the price one penny and still profit 50 billion in one year. But the problem lies in the market and the downright greed of the investor. If Apple doesn't meet it's profit goals of 78+ billion but still makes a substantial profit of 50billion the investor is still angry and the stock price falls. I mean who fusses about 50 billion in NET?.. In other words if we band together and fight against the greed and corruption of the system then we all win. Isn't it sickening to you that if a companies stock price falls 15% the first thing that is cut is the people that helped the company grow in the first? What ever happening to a rises stock due to the sustainablity and long life existence? That doesn't work anymore because if you don't beat that record breaking 78 billion you lose!!!
    Oh how horrible, investors looking to make a profit and in many cases a huge profit.

    Is this forum and specifically this topic going to morph into one about politics, values, and morals?
    08-28-2012 08:05 AM
  12. GalaxyOnyxWitch's Avatar
    Well considering that I purchased a SS product BEFORE the lawsuit went through. Didn't even know much about it at the time. I am not sure if purchasing a product supports the company per se.

    I don't think my paltry $600 beans will make any difference to Samsung.

    I think Samsung was guilty of some patent infringement, I mean yes the court and judge and location seemed biased, but unless the patents are invalid, Apple did offer to lease them to SS and they refused. No one to blame but themselves. Hell even Google warned them to not Apple-ify their products (Nexus etc).

    I make my purchase decision based on research and the product that fits my needs/desires. So whether it's Samsung or Apple I don't really care unless somehow they are proven to be puppy slayers or something.....
    08-28-2012 10:07 AM
  13. rcook55's Avatar
    Their logo was designed by an American firm. LOL

    Sent using my Verizon Galaxy Nexus
    Well, sorta

    From Wikipedia

    "Frog (styled as frog) is a global innovation firm founded in 1969 by industrial designer Hartmut Esslinger and partners Andreas Haug and Georg Spreng in Mutlangen, Germany as "Esslinger Design". Soon after it moved to Altensteig, Germany, and then to Palo Alto, California, and ultimately to its current headquarters in San Francisco, California. The name was changed to Frogdesign in 1982 (the name an acronym for Esslinger's home, the Federal Republic of Germany), then to Frog Design in 2000, and finally to frog in 2011. The company has grown to over 1,600 employees worldwide, collaborating across fifteen locations: San Francisco, Austin, New York City, Seattle, Munich, Milan, Shanghai, Amsterdam, Bangalore, Boston, Chennai, Gurgaon, Johannesburg, Kiev, and Vinnitsa."
    08-28-2012 10:19 AM
  14. rcook55's Avatar
    I don't have a problem buying a foreign froduct from a foreign company...and I am a pure breed American Chevy and V-Twin chopper guy...and I DO NOT shop at Wal-Mart, ever!!!!

    I will not buy products from a company that has all their stuff made over seas and claims to be a true American company.
    You better look into where your "pure breed American Chevy and V-Twin chopper" are made then. Most Harley's and Chevy's are assembled in the US, sure, but the parts are just as internationally sourced as Apples products are. When the Toyota Camry ranks as the most 'American Made' car in the US your argument has some issues.

    The amount of misguided jingoism when it deals with 'buying American' is almost comical, the fact is the world is a much smaller place and the reality is there are very few products made in and by a single nations workforce of any type.
    08-28-2012 10:38 AM
  15. bdmridgback's Avatar
    You better look into where your "pure breed American Chevy and V-Twin chopper" are made then. Most Harley's and Chevy's are assembled in the US, sure, but the parts are just as internationally sourced as Apples products are. When the Toyota Camry ranks as the most 'American Made' car in the US your argument has some issues.

    The amount of misguided jingoism when it deals with 'buying American' is almost comical, the fact is the world is a much smaller place and the reality is there are very few products made in and by a single nations workforce of any type.

    My Chevy SSR was built in Lansing Michigan and My Big Dog Ridgeback Chopper was built in Wichita, Kansas. I would never buy a Chevy Aveo because it is a Daewoo. Most all the parts on my SSR and my Big Dog are manufactured here in the US and very few imported. I don't have a problem with buying from a Korean company that is making Korean products, The problem is when an American company claims to be American and is outsourcing all their work.
    08-28-2012 11:16 AM
  16. JayL's Avatar
    If Apple brought it's BILLIONS home to the USA and PAID TAXES on them, I would support them.
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    08-28-2012 11:18 AM
  17. GrooveRite's Avatar
    The problem is when an American company claims to be American and is outsourcing all their work.
    Yup! Also why I don't buy from Nike anymore. I buy New balance since most of their products are made here in the US.
    08-28-2012 11:23 AM
  18. ice2008's Avatar
    Buy whatever product you feel like, its freedom of choice.

    Besides, its not like apple would manufacture its products in America, its manufacturing is mostly in China, Samsung by the way manufactures quite a lot of its stuff in China as well.
    Or another example, my wrisrwatch from a Japanese manufacturer is actually made in Thailand.

    Lets face it, they all out source and if they don't they just buy the parts from abroad and then assemble locally in some attempt to deceive consumers into believing they would be supporting the local economy.

    Sent from my ST25i using Android Central Forums
    08-28-2012 11:38 AM
  19. Johnly's Avatar
    As if we all buy our products here. WTF! Everything is built over seas, even though some products are assembled here, the parts are built over seas. Did not anyone pay attention when we shipped all our manufacturing over seas 10-15 years ago. If you want 100% American, you can do it, but be prepared to do your research. I can link you with a site that is 100% American...but you wont fin ANY cell phones on it.
    08-28-2012 12:05 PM
  20. sniffs's Avatar
    This. If any of this stuff was American made it'd be a bit...sometimes much...pricier.
    ...Like the Nexus Q, perhaps?
    08-28-2012 12:06 PM
  21. CDH's Avatar
    How much cash is apple sitting on? Over a hundred billion? Why not return it to shareholders or reinvest it? Maybe because most of it is offshore and remains there so they don't have to pay taxes on it. Sounds like a company concerned about America.
    bdmridgback likes this.
    08-28-2012 01:30 PM
  22. dmmarck's Avatar
    ...Like the Nexus Q, perhaps?
    Exactly .
    08-28-2012 01:32 PM
  23. Rev2010's Avatar
    This article sums up what a travesty this lawsuit is.


    Groklaw - Jury in Apple v. Samsung Goofed, Damages Reduced -- Uh Oh. What's Wrong With this Picture? ~pj Updated 4Xs

    These jurors are savants. One hundred and nine pages of jury instructions and 700 questions in 3 days.
    Still reading this but wow, interesting stuff here. And with all the jurors are saying that contradicts the instructions (which they didn't read) I think Sammy might have something to use.


    Rev.
    08-28-2012 01:49 PM
  24. dmmarck's Avatar
    Yes. Now, remember, these are largely procedural issues, but they are fairly large ones at that.
    08-28-2012 01:53 PM
  25. sniffs's Avatar
    How much cash is apple sitting on? Over a hundred billion? Why not return it to shareholders or reinvest it? Maybe because most of it is offshore and remains there so they don't have to pay taxes on it. Sounds like a company concerned about America.
    Let's not forget that Steve Jobs was one of the only billionaires that was not a philanthropist.

    He closed the Steve P. Jobs foundation 1 year after opening it, and only after his death, did Tim Cook open Apple back up to offering donations.

    He was a greedy person who ran a greedy/shady company based on do as I say, not as I do morals and took prior art, merged it into functionality and claimed no one else could do the same.

    Apple created ideas based on inspiration from other companies. Why is it OK they do it and not Samsung?
    Rev2010 likes this.
    08-28-2012 01:55 PM
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