09-03-2012 03:11 PM
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  1. jneusch's Avatar
    Here is a question for all of you Android experts:

    Like many of you I am using another home screen (Nova). I have several widgets running, clock/weather, tasks, calendar, google voice, google drive, rocket player, etc.

    I also have TW set up very similar to Nova. Sometimes I decide to switch between them. I think I like Nova better, but I like variety.

    My question is this - does having 2 separate launcher/home screens with widgets running use more RAM and/or system resources, CPU, battery, etc? If so, am I better off sticking with one and clearing out all of the stuff from the other?

    I am rooted and I have frozen some of the bloat that I have no interest in. I just rebooted my phone, cleared RAM and I am using about 592MB. I have actually sat here and watched the number climb from 570 - 592, now 606 while typing this last paragraph.
    08-29-2012 12:33 AM
  2. funkylogik's Avatar
    id guess homescreen will only be using ram while its active, the one youre not using is just taking up storage memory(i think)
    08-29-2012 05:38 AM
  3. xderiwx's Avatar
    Sorry, posted a duplicate.
    08-29-2012 02:15 PM
  4. xderiwx's Avatar
    Being new to Android, I was curious how the multiple homescreens thing worked also. I notice many people using the multiple homescreen setups, and was curious if this affects performance or RAM usage in anyway, compared to just having one homescreen setup? How does this all work if you have multiple homescreens, but say are just on the main homescreen, do the other homescreens setup with widgets/apps/etc. just get ignored until you actually swipe to that homescreen making it live?

    Don't know all the Android terminology and ins n' outs yet, so sorry if that was a little confusing.

    Thanks!
    08-29-2012 02:22 PM
  5. 534n's Avatar
    Depends on the launcher, some will load all of the screens/widgets for faster response when you move to another screen.

    Also, the core services including the stock launcher will keep running if you do not have them disabled. The RAM goes up and down within a certain range on Android as well during operation because of the GC cycles.
    08-29-2012 08:22 PM
  6. funkylogik's Avatar
    again purely guesswork but surely the wghdgets in the unused launchers arent active so arent using any ram just the same as you can have a huge list of downloaded widgets that you never use will taketup storage memory but not ram.
    ps i found a great app that backs up all your different launcher set ups
    08-29-2012 08:32 PM
  7. 534n's Avatar
    Find a memory analyzer app and see exactly what apps/services are loaded in memory. Some task managers allow a more detailed view.
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    08-29-2012 08:34 PM
  8. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    Here is a question for all of you Android experts:

    Like many of you I am using another home screen (Nova). I have several widgets running, clock/weather, tasks, calendar, google voice, google drive, rocket player, etc.

    I also have TW set up very similar to Nova. Sometimes I decide to switch between them. I think I like Nova better, but I like variety.

    My question is this - [HL]does having 2 separate launcher/home screens with widgets running use more RAM and/or system resources, CPU, battery, etc? If so, am I better off sticking with one and clearing out all of the stuff from the other?[/HL]

    I am rooted and I have frozen some of the bloat that I have no interest in. I just rebooted my phone, cleared RAM and I am using about 592MB. I have actually sat here and watched the number climb from 570 - 592, now 606 while typing this last paragraph.
    When I first installed Nova I deleted all widgets from TW screens, otherwise they are still running (active). Remember that all launchers are essentially "overlays". Make sure to clear all your screens before installing a new launcher. So to answer your question, yes you are better off using one and clearing the other of widgets.
    08-29-2012 08:35 PM
  9. funkylogik's Avatar
    but surely RAM is the memory the phone is actualy using actively... thinking with?
    08-29-2012 08:36 PM
  10. 534n's Avatar
    but surely RAM is the memory the phone is actualy using actively... thinking with?
    Not necessarily. RAM is just volatile memory that is readily readable/changeable directly by the cpu instead of having to go to flash storage. Cached and background processes take RAM just like active ones do.
    08-29-2012 09:41 PM
  11. jneusch's Avatar
    When I first installed Nova I deleted all widgets from TW screens, otherwise they are still running (active). Remember that all launchers are essentially "overlays". Make sure to clear all your screens before installing a new launcher. So to answer your question, yes you are better off using one and clearing the other of widgets.
    This is the information I was looking for and what I thought might be happening. I have "built out" both Nova and TW with very similar widgets and screens so I could toggle between the two. I thought that my phone was a little laggy after doing that.

    Now to decide which one I like better. I could always back up Nova to my SD card then uninstall for now. Should be easy to reinstall then restore to put it back. No such option with TW that I know of.
    08-29-2012 10:40 PM
  12. funkylogik's Avatar
    so even if both launchers have exactly the same widgets, itl still use more ram?
    ps whats the TW launcher called in app manager? wana disable that badboy
    08-30-2012 05:56 AM
  13. funkylogik's Avatar
    darn. it cant be disabled
    08-30-2012 06:01 AM
  14. 534n's Avatar
    so even if both launchers have exactly the same widgets, itl still use more ram?
    ps whats the TW launcher called in app manager? wana disable that badboy
    Yes because each is a separate instance as long as the launcher is running, and TW launcher is app manager is probably the TouchWiz launcher, which is the S3 stock launcher. It can be disabled on a root phone by going into a root app manager and freezing the app titled "TouchWiz home <version>" and it will save lots of memory, as TW eats RAM to provide the performance and functionality that it does.

    EDIT: I have TW disabled.
    08-31-2012 11:32 AM
  15. jneusch's Avatar
    534n, I am rooted but no unlocked boot loader. Are you saying I can freeze TW home and it will not lock up my phone? I am using Nova as my launcher.


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    08-31-2012 01:25 PM
  16. funkylogik's Avatar
    Yes because each is a separate instance as long as the launcher is running, and TW launcher is app manager is probably the TouchWiz launcher, which is the S3 stock launcher. It can be disabled on a root phone by going into a root app manager and freezing the app titled "TouchWiz home <version>" and it will save lots of memory, as TW eats RAM to provide the performance and functionality that it does.

    EDIT: I have TW disabled.
    kewl this is my main motive to root the s3. ive always rooted. so when rooted (i used systemapp remover), can the TW Launcherbe uninstalled without causing probs? think i froze stock launcher on a Froyo device and it bleeped stuff up what im gona do now is remove any widgets that were on TW launcher out-the-box
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    08-31-2012 01:31 PM
  17. 534n's Avatar
    Yes, you can freeze TW launcher and it will not affect your phone. You just have to have another launcher installed and things will work fine. Unless you have a recovery backup though, I would not recommend uninstalling it because reinstalling core apps is rarely successful, however a recovery backup takes care of that issue.
    08-31-2012 01:43 PM
  18. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    kewl this is my main motive to root the s3. ive always rooted. so when rooted (i used systemapp remover), can the TW Launcherbe uninstalled without causing probs? think i froze stock launcher on a Froyo device and it bleeped stuff up what im gona do now is remove any widgets that were on TW launcher out-the-box
    At this point my suggestion would be to just install a different ROM.
    08-31-2012 02:14 PM
  19. 534n's Avatar
    I actually enjoy the stock ROM for now. It just needs a few tweaks here and there, but I may experiment later on.
    08-31-2012 02:23 PM
  20. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    I actually enjoy the stock ROM for now. It just needs a few tweaks here and there, but I may experiment later on.
    Same here, but I am itching to root and unlock. I am a procrastinator. I know as soon as Verizon sends out an update, I will be scrambling to root, because in all likely-hood they will close the ability to root/unlock the bootloader.
    08-31-2012 02:31 PM
  21. 534n's Avatar
    Same here, but I am itching to root and unlock. I am a procrastinator. I know as soon as Verizon sends out an update, I will be scrambling to root, because in all likely-hood they will close the ability to root/unlock the bootloader.
    What is preventing you from doing it now?
    08-31-2012 02:41 PM
  22. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    What is preventing you from doing it now?
    Nothing really, just enjoying the phone as is. I will get bored with it soon. Then I will root and unlock and it will give me a "new phone" to explore and play around with.

    As it is now the wife gives me the "Are you on that phone again" speech, as well as "You spend more time on that phone than with us". Imagine when I root!!!!.
    08-31-2012 02:50 PM
  23. 534n's Avatar
    Nothing really, just enjoying the phone as is. I will get bored with it soon. Then I will root and unlock and it will give me a "new phone" to explore and play around with.

    As it is now the wife gives me the "Are you on that phone again" speech, as well as "You spend more time on that phone than with us". Imagine when I root!!!!.
    BTDT - I am very familiar with that speech haha
    08-31-2012 02:55 PM
  24. jneusch's Avatar
    Nothing really, just enjoying the phone as is. I will get bored with it soon. Then I will root and unlock and it will give me a "new phone" to explore and play around with.

    As it is now the wife gives me the "Are you on that phone again" speech, as well as "You spend more time on that phone than with us". Imagine when I root!!!!.

    I hear that too, along with - Are you on the computer again?
    08-31-2012 02:57 PM
  25. Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    I hear that too, along with - Are you on the computer again?
    Seems like a common defect with women.

    ****Ooops, I hope I did not offend any ladies here! Off to the beach before I put foot in mouth again!!
    08-31-2012 03:00 PM
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