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  1. badbrad17's Avatar
    I also have lots of friends that bring me their Apple products for help doing the simplest things. I always shake my head because if Apple is so easy to use then why is copying a movie on to the device so frustrating? Format limitations etc. Etc. Even my old blackberry was easier.

    I own a graphic design and Web software company so we have both pc's and mac's in our office. The pc users are typically much more informed on how to use their computer. Things like copying and installation of software, configuring networks etc. Where 90% of the Mac users barely know how to use the system outside of their programs.

    I'm not trying to say Mac users are dumb. It's just an observation. My PC users are typically the ones that figure out how to do the required task on the Mac before the person who is using the computer on a daily basis.

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    09-11-2012 09:57 AM
  2. badbrad17's Avatar
    I hate to hate, but current Sony phones have 12 megapixel cameras, i know its not all about the megapixels but they take incredibly detailed photos and android doesn't need a dual core 1.5 ghz cpu and 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly, i think some legacy software (2.3) and bad hardware combos from the past couple years has put a bad taste in a lot of apple fans mouths. This is the time to hop on our train. Even if your not into an android phone, pick up a nexus 7.

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    I think Sony makes the camera in the iPhone.

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    09-11-2012 10:13 AM
  3. mzanette's Avatar
    I also have lots of friends that bring me their Apple products for help doing the simplest things. I always shake my head because if Apple is so easy to use then why is copying a movie on to the device so frustrating? Format limitations etc. Etc. Even my old blackberry was easier.

    I own a graphic design and Web software company so we have both pc's and mac's in our office. The pc users are typically much more informed on how to use their computer. Things like copying and installation of software, configuring networks etc. Where 90% of the Mac users barely know how to use the system outside of their programs.

    I'm not trying to say Mac users are dumb. It's just an observation. My PC users are typically the ones that figure out how to do the required task on the Mac before the person who is using the computer on a daily basis.

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    I know the feeling. Both my sisters bought Macbooks because they told me they're "so much easier to use than PCs, things just work!". Needless to say i've had to help them on numerous occasions when they couldn't figure out how to do something. Being the younger brother I always get the obligatory jab in "it just works huh?".
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    09-11-2012 10:17 AM
  4. GrooveRite's Avatar
    I also have lots of friends that bring me their Apple products for help doing the simplest things. I always shake my head because if Apple is so easy to use then why is copying a movie on to the device so frustrating? Format limitations etc. Etc. Even my old blackberry was easier.

    I own a graphic design and Web software company so we have both pc's and mac's in our office. The pc users are typically much more informed on how to use their computer. Things like copying and installation of software, configuring networks etc. Where 90% of the Mac users barely know how to use the system outside of their programs.

    I'm not trying to say Mac users are dumb. It's just an observation. My PC users are typically the ones that figure out how to do the required task on the Mac before the person who is using the computer on a daily basis.

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    I know this all too well!

    In my VoIP class this past week....our professor goes, you can install SIP on your Android devices....if you have an iphone, we can't help you there....lol!!!
    09-11-2012 10:28 AM
  5. badbrad17's Avatar
    Mine too. It's just another iOS warcry that Adobe is no longer developing/supporting it so they think it quit working overnight and every website is now magically converted to HTML5 overnight. Obviously that also justifies going the last several years without support at all (see, they were right all along! They've won by depriving themselves!)

    I'll mark this post and update it when I go more than 2 days without hitting a site with Flash on it. Check back in 2015 or thereabouts. In the meantime I'll continue to enjoy Flash just like I have been for years.

    Maybe when JB hits, it won't work as well though. But still....I had 3 years with Flash on my phone that the other OS didn't.
    It's like Apple dropping youtube and Google maps. Rather than giving their customers a better experience and updating it like they have with Facebook, they try to stick it to Google by making a political statement with it in the name of negatively affecting competition. Boo to Apple for this behavior.

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    09-11-2012 10:42 AM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    I think Sony makes the camera in the iPhone.

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    Yup.

    And Sony makes the cameras for the Galaxy S III too.

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    09-11-2012 10:51 AM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    It's like Apple dropping youtube and Google maps. Rather than giving their customers a better experience and updating it like they have with Facebook, they try to stick it to Google by making a political statement with it in the name of negatively affecting competition. Boo to Apple for this behavior.

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    I don't know what the big deal is about that. Political statement? Negatively affecting competition?

    Like with Facebook? Facebook updated Facebook. Apple didn't update Facebook. lol.

    Fact is, the deals to preload a YouTube app and use Google Maps as the default mapping application were up. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Google is already readying a standalone YouTube app for iOS. In fact, I think it came out today. This is much better for iOS users because now the app will actually get updated outside of iOS updates.

    Apple has now built their own mapping solution and it just makes sense for them as a business to use the solution they have invested in instead of continuing to license Google Maps. Google already has Google Earth in iOS. Who's to say Google isn't developing a standalone Google's Maps app for iOS 6 and higher?

    Turn your fanboy blinders off and maybe you'll see the real picture.

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    09-11-2012 10:57 AM
  8. Judas101's Avatar
    It does 'just work' when you're using a mainstream OS that is supported.

    Also, the issue with the S3 has nothing to do with apple and everything to do with the tool Google built for newer android phones being janky and broken.

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    Not necessarily. When I upgraded from a Windows XP computer to a Windows 7 one, my son connected his iPod touch to transfer some music. iTunes told him his iPod needed updating and promptly bricked it. Microsoft had addressed certain security issues with Windows 7 SP1, but iTunes didn't like it and it caused the bricking of many iPods and iPhones. Apples answer? Uninstall SP1. This in spite of the fact that there had been several iTunes updates since the release of SP1. So I guess this was a case of Apples tool being janky and broken.


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    09-11-2012 11:06 AM
  9. Judas101's Avatar
    New devices won't be able to install Flash officially.

    And duh, of course websites will still use Flash. But again Adobe themselves killed mobile Flash. No new development. No new official Google Play installs.

    Abode says it's time to move on and I'm sorry you can't comprehend that.

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    That's funny, I've just looked on the Play Store and Flash Player is still there.


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    09-11-2012 11:29 AM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    That's funny, I've just looked on the Play Store and Flash Player is still there.


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    It's still there, in accounts that have previously downloaded it.

    Log out and search on a desktop browser for Adobe Flash and tell me if Adobe Flash shows up as a search result.

    Look at the apps available from Adobe Systems. Adobe Flash shouldn't be there.

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    09-11-2012 11:46 AM
  11. piizzadude's Avatar
    Yes but try to install it on an ICS phone

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    09-11-2012 11:46 AM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    Yes but try to install it on an ICS phone

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    You mean, Jelly Bean device.

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    09-11-2012 11:46 AM
  13. piizzadude's Avatar
    After the Rezound update, you could not install flash, you had to side load it.

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    09-11-2012 01:12 PM
  14. Ry's Avatar
    After the Rezound update, you could not install flash, you had to side load it.

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    Weird. I was able to reinstall flash after installing the ICS leak for my Bionic (factory reset). I don't think RAZR owners lost Flash access after their ICS update either.
    09-11-2012 06:41 PM
  15. Archienj7's Avatar
    I think Sony makes the camera in the iPhone.

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    It does. It's in most Sammy phones too.
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    09-11-2012 07:17 PM
  16. gollum18's Avatar
    Yea ry seriously

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    09-11-2012 07:23 PM
  17. BEARD GANG's Avatar
    Note 2 was supposed to have 13mp camera...but sharp flopped last minute
    09-11-2012 08:33 PM
  18. badbrad17's Avatar
    I know this all too well!

    In my VoIP class this past week....our professor goes, you can install SIP on your Android devices....if you have an iphone, we can't help you there....lol!!!
    Ha ha. That's funny. Maybe tomorrow Apple will announce that this is the new revolutionary feature they just invented.

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    09-11-2012 11:25 PM
  19. badbrad17's Avatar
    I don't know what the big deal is about that. Political statement? Negatively affecting competition?

    Like with Facebook? Facebook updated Facebook. Apple didn't update Facebook. lol.

    Fact is, the deals to preload a YouTube app and use Google Maps as the default mapping application were up. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Google is already readying a standalone YouTube app for iOS. In fact, I think it came out today. This is much better for iOS users because now the app will actually get updated outside of iOS updates.

    Apple has now built their own mapping solution and it just makes sense for them as a business to use the solution they have invested in instead of continuing to license Google Maps. Google already has Google Earth in iOS. Who's to say Google isn't developing a standalone Google's Maps app for iOS 6 and higher?

    Turn your fanboy blinders off and maybe you'll see the real picture.

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    I am truly trying to be subjective on this. Maybe I am misinformed but according to what I read iOS6 has new and improved Facebook integration. Maybe this is not the case and it is just based on what Facebook decided to do with their app but I don't think so. What I am getting at is that I think Apple's motivation is based on trying to eliminate Google rather than by giving their customers a better experience. I have heard many people already comment that they don't like the new mapping system. Why try to fix what isn't broken?

    I think that I have gotten used to the way Google integrates with my phone. I like it. It makes sense. If apple had some great thing that could be integrated into my Android phone then I would want that too.

    Google just tries harder for inclusion. Apple tries harder for exclusion. This is not headline news. Google shares better. I can share a photo to 10 or more different apps or social media services all within my gallery. Whether it's a sms app or other unique services. IPhones don't do this.

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    09-11-2012 11:40 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    I am truly trying to be subjective on this. Maybe I am misinformed but according to what I read iOS6 has new and improved Facebook integration. Maybe this is not the case and it is just based on what Facebook decided to do with their app but I don't think so. What I am getting at is that I think Apple's motivation is based on trying to eliminate Google rather than by giving their customers a better experience. I have heard many people already comment that they don't like the new mapping system. Why try to fix what isn't broken?

    I think that I have gotten used to the way Google integrates with my phone. I like it. It makes sense. If apple had some great thing that could be integrated into my Android phone then I would want that too.

    Google just tries harder for inclusion. Apple tries harder for exclusion. This is not headline news. Google shares better. I can share a photo to 10 or more different apps or social media services all within my gallery. Whether it's a sms app or other unique services. IPhones don't do this.

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    Ah. Forgot about the Facebook integration built-in to the OS, like they did with Twitter on the previous version.

    Still, the maps and YouTube situations are really simply about deals expiring. If Apple has their own mapping solution ready, why should it continue to pay someone else? They've invested in building their own. Why let that go to waste?

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    09-11-2012 11:44 PM
  21. gollum18's Avatar
    I heard somewhere that Apple's map app is as complete rip off Google maps except it's reskinned to look like an Apple app

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    09-12-2012 01:51 AM
  22. JHBThree's Avatar
    I heard somewhere that Apple's map app is as complete rip off Google maps except it's reskinned to look like an Apple app

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    Uh, no.

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    09-12-2012 02:47 AM
  23. Archienj7's Avatar
    I heard somewhere that Apple's map app is as complete rip off Google maps except it's reskinned to look like an Apple app

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    No, Apple would never do something like that.
    09-12-2012 05:06 AM
  24. BEARD GANG's Avatar
    09-12-2012 09:44 AM
  25. mzanette's Avatar
    I heard somewhere that Apple's map app is as complete rip off Google maps except it's reskinned to look like an Apple app

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    Watch, Apple will be granted a patent for mobile mapping applications and sue Google.
    09-12-2012 09:55 AM
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