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  1. Paul627g's Avatar
    This is nothing but positive. If it means that there may be more flagship phones offering stock Android experiences every year, it'll be good for all involved. There's people who want the S4, but hate Touchwiz. They'll be happy. Everyone else can buy one if they'd like or enjoy the carrier versions.
    Exactly.. This is nothing but positive IMO.

    Not saying you post in other sections just commenting on the fact that I see you constantly doing your best to stir the pot, what's the points there an actual goal or is it more of a past time


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    Lets not even start the flaming, trolling or comments.. Not going to put up with it in this thread.

    Happy posts! Lets get along... Nuff said..
    05-15-2013 08:06 PM
  2. Suda's Avatar
    Considering this phone is a carbon copy of the original GS4 and only sold online, the "average customer" won't even know this phone exists. If it were sold at a subsidy and available through carriers I'd imagine it'd sell really well though. In fact, I'd say probably better than the TouchWiz GS4 if they were launched at the same time. People would see Google's name on it and not on the other and go for that one. Then again it'd probably cause confusion.
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    05-15-2013 08:09 PM
  3. return_0's Avatar
    Considering this phone is a carbon copy of the original GS4 and only sold online, the "average customer" won't even know this phone exists. If it were sold at a subsidy and available through carriers I'd imagine it'd sell really well though. In fact, I'd say probably better than the TouchWiz GS4 if they were launched at the same time. People would see Google's name on it and not on the other and go for that one. Then again it'd probably cause confusion.
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    05-15-2013 08:38 PM
  4. Suda's Avatar
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    Yeah I realized that after I typed it. That and all the other little quirks Samsung showed off, stuff like Knox when it's finally released.
    05-15-2013 08:49 PM
  5. Suda's Avatar
    Also, it's been a couple hours since I/O and usually we get more info after keynotes are wrapped up and people ask questions. Does anyone know if this is coming in anything other than white? I'd imagine it won't be available in the same amount of colors as the TW versions (there's already a blue one) but a black one would be nice.
    05-15-2013 09:11 PM
  6. JHBThree's Avatar
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    I don't think they'll advertise it. There may be some ads online, but nothing like what Google did for Nexus.

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    05-15-2013 11:50 PM
  7. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Can you imagine how much TMo could dominate if they didn't have terrible service outside of the major markets? As it is, I'm still waiting for the Verizon s4...
    Which will be $249 and a rebate for 16gb to take it to $199.
    05-16-2013 12:40 AM
  8. snookasnoo's Avatar
    I thought Android users were supposed to rant about the iPhone not other android devices. Never seen anything like the HTC One vs S 4 thing.
    Anyway one of my first thoughts is that maybe other manufacturers will have a stock option. Seems to me it would make sense for HTC. The whole point of the overlays is to try to get you invested in their way of doing things.
    Could be Google wants this too. Imagine Android manufacturers competing on device quality, performance, and service and support instead of
    overlays like Sense and Touchwiz. I think we would get better devices and a more satisfying experience. If you want more features than stock android provides then get them through apps and rooting.
    I knew this was going to happen the second I read the rumor last night. The S4 is the most polarizing device out right now and the One gives tech bloggers/reviewers an aluminum-on. It's like the S4 is so disowned at this point amongst the tech community that even Nexus-like updates and stock Android doesn't make a difference.

    I find it absolutely hilarious. It makes for great debates and entertaining, nonsensical tirades.
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    05-16-2013 12:47 AM
  9. snookasnoo's Avatar
    No Touchwiz overlay, pure android which I think people coming from iPhones will prefer as it is amore cohesive UI with better performance.

    Hey guys, quick question... been with apple since the 1st iphone and now making the switch to s4 with verizon.....what the big difference with the Google edition compared to the s4 i have on pre-order?...Will a first android user even be able to tell the difference? Whats the benefits with the Google edition if i just plan on keeping everything stock, maybe use a 3rd party launcher here and there?
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    05-16-2013 12:49 AM
  10. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    There will be differences between this and the Nexus line. What they are we don't know yet. But I think if the software was identical and updates were "instant" than they would call it a Nexus.

    Maybe that means improved camera software and other bits that make the experience better.

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    05-16-2013 01:40 AM
  11. anon5664829's Avatar
    No Touchwiz overlay, pure android which I think people coming from iPhones will prefer as it is amore cohesive UI with better performance.
    Yeah, coming from my iPhone 5 the N4 impressed me a lot.
    05-16-2013 01:46 AM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    There will be differences between this and the Nexus line. What they are we don't know yet. But I think if the software was identical and updates were "instant" than they would call it a Nexus.

    Maybe that means improved camera software and other bits that make the experience better.

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    IF this gets the camera and some of the other Samsung features on top of AOSP, that'd be HUGE and make this one of my favorite devices, even with the ghoulish button atrocity they've committed again. That's exactly what everyone wanted, at least in all the comments on like every tech site ever.

    Edit: I just found out this device does have SD Card support, which makes me slightly more hopeful for some of the other features.
    05-16-2013 01:49 AM
  13. DioramaMaker's Avatar
    The question is how this will be distributed to carriers/what storage sizes will be available?
    05-16-2013 02:31 AM
  14. Aquila's Avatar
    The question is how this will be distributed to carriers/what storage sizes will be available?
    As of now, nothing has been said about carriers other than the unlocked version from the Play Store supports LTE from T-Mobile and AT&T and only a 16GB has been announced.
    05-16-2013 02:36 AM
  15. DioramaMaker's Avatar
    As of now, nothing has been said about carriers other than the unlocked version from the Play Store supports LTE from T-Mobile and AT&T and only a 16GB has been announced.
    I see I see. I assume a similar availability like the Nexus 4 had, if I'd have to come up with a guess. I'm glad I'm rocking a 32gb model, though the stock Android would have been nice out of the box, but Nova launcher is a nice substitute though. Not worth getting upset over it honestly, personally.
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    05-16-2013 02:42 AM
  16. anon5664829's Avatar
    I wish I had waited now...

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    05-16-2013 04:38 AM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    I wish I had waited now...

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    I think you're crazy I'd rather have a stock S4 or a Nexus, not a hybrid. I get the appeal, but if I wanted a hybrid, I'd root a stock S4.
    05-16-2013 05:39 AM
  18. JasW's Avatar
    I don't think they'll advertise it. There may be some ads online, but nothing like what Google did for Nexus.
    And we all know what a runaway success the N4 was in the marketplace. This is a MUCH better phone than the N4. Really, this is just a sop to a segment of the Android community. Small in number they are, but outsized influence they have.

    No Touchwiz overlay, pure android which I think people coming from iPhones will prefer as it is amore cohesive UI with better performance.
    Actually, I think Touchwiz is fine for most iPhone users. As long as they select Easy Mode.
    05-16-2013 07:42 AM
  19. Paul627g's Avatar
    Edit: I just found out this device does have SD Card support, which makes me slightly more hopeful for some of the other features.
    This is a plus, even though many won't like that its following the standards in which Google is pushing of getting away from sdcard expansion.
    05-16-2013 08:57 AM
  20. Paul627g's Avatar
    I'm not certain what if any advertising will be put into this from Samsung, via mainstream commercials. With the current attention Samsung already has if they were to throw a commercial or two on this into some prime time stuff like during the various sporting events televised and other key areas they could really explode this into something great.

    But I'm sure Samsung has already thought of this, they don't need my petty thoughts
    05-16-2013 09:00 AM
  21. I Monarch's Avatar
    ITT: S4 early adopters saying this phone is "not a true Nexus" to justify their purchase.
    05-16-2013 09:07 AM
  22. grunt0300's Avatar
    Why would anyone pay $650.00 for a SGS4(to get the "Nexus" experience) when they can root a SGSIII(with a vanilla rom), unlock it, and be good to go for about 1/3 the price? I've read that the Google Nexus4 has an LTE chip built-in to the phone. I'd personally wait to see the Google Nexus5.
    05-16-2013 09:09 AM
  23. Paul627g's Avatar
    Why would anyone pay $650.00 for a SGS4(to get the "Nexus" experience) when they can root a SGSIII(with a vanilla rom), unlock it, and be good to go for about 1/3 the price? I've read that the Google Nexus4 has an LTE chip built-in to the phone. I'd personally wait to see the Google Nexus5.
    I believe the whole rooting experience to many these days is a high risk. People depend on their smartphones now as a huge part of their daily lives and many even tech confident people are hesitant to unlock & root their devices in fear of the " what if I screw up " factor.

    Giving them this option of the S4 hardware/platform on a Pure Google experience out of the box is right up the alley for those who want it with no risk involved. The price tag is the only part making it difficult.
    05-16-2013 09:16 AM
  24. Parafly's Avatar
    But a rooted normal edition S4 still won't have immediate updates.
    OK the updates will be a few days behind because you will have to get dev support. but it will be quick.
    05-16-2013 09:19 AM
  25. Parafly's Avatar
    Why would anyone pay $650.00 for a SGS4(to get the "Nexus" experience) when they can root a SGSIII(with a vanilla rom), unlock it, and be good to go for about 1/3 the price? I've read that the Google Nexus4 has an LTE chip built-in to the phone. I'd personally wait to see the Google Nexus5.
    The only place it makes sense is on T-mobile since you won't have the device subsidy. For every other carrier I agree it makes no sense.
    05-16-2013 09:20 AM
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