07-15-2013 05:49 AM
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  1. elvisgp's Avatar
    I feel like they picked the s4 to show people that Samsung still has a good relationship with Google and won't be forking android anytime soon. Also, perhaps they asked HTC to do a One GE, but HTC refused.

    Sent from my jelly bean flavored note 2
    05-18-2013 10:47 PM
  2. JHBThree's Avatar
    I feel like they picked the s4 to show people that Samsung still has a good relationship with Google and won't be forking android anytime soon. Also, perhaps they asked HTC to do a One GE, but HTC refused.

    Sent from my jelly bean flavored note 2
    The interesting part is that based on comments by Hugo Barra, this was a last minute project. One nagging thing at the back of my mind is that Motorola was rumored to debut a device at I/O, which obviously didn't materialize. A big part of me thinks they canceled whatever announcement they had, and were scrambling to find something to announce, which ended up being this S4.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    05-19-2013 12:36 AM
  3. Raptor007's Avatar
    Great hardware with a stock OS, what I would like to see is Samsung offer their apps on a stock OS device and ditch the TW UI which we all know is still the culprit of the phantom lag.
    05-24-2013 09:00 PM
  4. JHBThree's Avatar
    Great hardware with a stock OS, what I would like to see is Samsung offer their apps on a stock OS device and ditch the TW UI which we all know is still the culprit of the phantom lag.
    Not phantom lag. The lag is real, and it is caused by the S4's feature bloat.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-25-2013 02:34 AM
  5. anon5664829's Avatar
    I really love how Google took the best hardware capable phone out there in the USA and said lets take all this bull**** out that doesn't work right and give the people what they want. Way to capitalize Google!

    HTC One>galaxy>iPhone
    My order of phones would be like HTC One=iPhone=Galaxy S4
    05-25-2013 05:06 AM
  6. recDNA's Avatar
    Yeah as expected. Those things are touchwiz features, not Android so pretty much expected. I mean honestly on vanilla Android people are just going to download a bunch of additional apps to do what stock Android apps should do already. The only + is getting rid of all the bloat but I did that on my root S4. Other than that, I really see little benefit to getting device and will see 0 once AT&T's bootloader is unlocked this month.
    You don't lose your warranty if you DO want vanilla Android. If vzw offered Google s4 I would pay an extra hundred for it because I wouldn't have to root it to like it.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
    05-25-2013 12:16 PM
  7. recDNA's Avatar
    I really love how Google took the best hardware capable phone out there in the USA and said lets take all this bull**** out that doesn't work right and give the people what they want. Way to capitalize Google!

    HTC One>galaxy>iPhone
    Are the radios the best?

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
    05-25-2013 12:17 PM
  8. JRLasVegas's Avatar
    Hands On with Engadget: Hands-on with the Samsung Galaxy S 4 running stock Android 4.2

    You gotta lose something to gain something

    Removes Air Gesture, Camera Modes, Multi Window, Smart features, and all that other good stuff
    Thank you Captain Obvious!

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-26-2013 11:12 PM
  9. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Let's keep the discussion civil. If you don't care for the thread, just move on. If you believe a post is inappropriate, then feel free to report the post.

    Don't post in the thread if you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
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    05-26-2013 11:14 PM
  10. Marcos Capella's Avatar
    I really don't see how losing touchwiz features is actually a "loss". Ignoring the good stuff like the camera modes the list of usable features is over.
    I'm just noting the obvious here, but having stock android on S4 is awesome because people can have the best hardware in the market in two flavours.
    And let's face the fact that Samsung has been dealing with some upgrades issues internationally. I think the S4 will get new androids versions for only over one and a half year and then it's done, just like what happened with the S2, which was released in 2011 and can now be considered obsolete.
    05-27-2013 03:41 PM
  11. Suda's Avatar
    I really don't see how losing touchwiz features is actually a "loss". Ignoring the good stuff like the camera modes the list of usable features is over.
    I'm just noting the obvious here, but having stock android on S4 is awesome because people can have the best hardware in the market in two flavours.
    And let's face the fact that Samsung has been dealing with some upgrades issues internationally. I think the S4 will get new androids versions for only over one and a half year and then it's done, just like what happened with the S2, which was released in 2011 and can now be considered obsolete.
    It can be a loss in the way that you're putting down $650 on this phone for the exact same features of the $300 Nexus 4. The original S4 costs $650 off contract and it has the eye scrolling, hover hand, etc. if this phone doesn't have those features activated then it just shouldn't be the same price as the original S4. Which is why I'm holding out hope that since Google worked with the S4's shell that it also worked with the S4's features/insides. That's the only way this thing would sell imho. Updates straight from Google themselves is nice but not enough to entice people to buy this phone over signing a contract, or even buying one of multiple color S4s that should be coming out soon and flashing the stock image off of this very phone onto it.
    05-27-2013 09:01 PM
  12. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Thank you Captain Obvious!

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    Apperentely wasn't obvious to all people
    05-27-2013 10:48 PM
  13. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Pay more and get less.

    GE is a waste UNLESS Samsung adds their own functions individually on the play store.

    Samsung makes a lot of great features (some not so great as well) and to pay full price for the device AND lose functionality isn't good.

    Let me determine which features I want on my phone and download what I want then we're in business and this would be great.

    Get rid of the touchwiz launcher, features I don't like, yet keep features I do like, stock Android, perfection.


    As it sits now, stock Android hasn't caught up with skinned Android

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    05-27-2013 10:59 PM
  14. JHBThree's Avatar
    Pay more and get less.

    GE is a waste UNLESS Samsung adds their own functions individually on the play store.

    Samsung makes a lot of great features (some not so great as well) and to pay full price for the device AND lose functionality isn't good.

    Let me determine which features I want on my phone and download what I want then we're in business and this would be great.

    Get rid of the touchwiz launcher, features I don't like, yet keep features I do like, stock Android, perfection.


    As it sits now, stock Android hasn't caught up with skinned Android

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Your last sentence is flat out wrong. The only area touchwiz and sense are better is with the camera features.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 01:03 AM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Your last sentence is flat out wrong. The only area touchwiz and sense are better is with the camera features.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    Thats subjective, I bet there are some people that prefer Touchwiz over Stock Android
    I personally like the look of touchwiz over stock android...either way, I'd get a launcher no matter what device I have
    05-28-2013 01:58 AM
  16. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Your last sentence is flat out wrong. The only area touchwiz and sense are better is with the camera features.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    Source?

    Stock Android is behind on

    -camera features
    -air view
    -voice control (I mean controlling apps with voice, but just opening then with Google Now)
    -swipe for screen shot
    -s-beam making wifi direct quick and easy

    At least make them downloadable

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 07:57 AM
  17. JHBThree's Avatar
    Source?

    Stock Android is behind on

    -camera features
    -air view
    -voice control (I mean controlling apps with voice, but just opening then with Google Now)
    -swipe for screen shot
    -s-beam making wifi direct quick and easy

    At least make them downloadable

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Half those things don't work, and half of them are gimmicks. I would not say stock is behind because it doesn't include them.

    Having used all of them extensively, the only thing sense and touchwiz do better st this point are the camera features.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 01:17 PM
  18. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Half those things don't work, and half of them are gimmicks. I would not say stock is behind because it doesn't include them.

    Having used all of them extensively, the only thing sense and touchwiz do better st this point are the camera features.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    What doesn't work and what's the gimmicks?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 01:59 PM
  19. qnet's Avatar
    Everyone that complains about how stock android is better had better not complain at all now. Every thread turns into "stock is better." Or " I wish they would make another phone with stock os." Nobody should complain. They are trying to give you what you want, so if all you've done on this forum is complain about what I've mentioned above, go buy one.

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
    The only complaint I have is it should have been available when the S4 launched. They could have made it available on the play store and I don't think it would have hurt Samsung sales because few people know about it. I would have loved that.
    05-28-2013 04:20 PM
  20. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    Half those things don't work, and half of them are gimmicks. I would not say stock is behind because it doesn't include them.

    Having used all of them extensively, the only thing sense and touchwiz do better st this point are the camera features.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    At least the features that are present on the Note 2 work perfectly fine for me. Of course anything someone doesn't find useful always seem to get called a gimmick. Seriously that word is getting thrown around way too much.
    05-28-2013 04:32 PM
  21. The Hustleman's Avatar
    At least the features that are present on the Note 2 work perfectly fine for me. Of course anything someone doesn't find useful always seem to get called a gimmick. Seriously that word is getting thrown around way too much.
    Whenever someone outdoes everyone else there has to be done negativity

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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    05-28-2013 04:34 PM
  22. gollum18's Avatar
    Without all the Sammy and carrier bloatware, the phone will fly with that awesome hardware. There might be lag on the Sammy s4 but in the ge, I don't expect that much if any at all. Same with the htc one ge.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 05:48 PM
  23. JHBThree's Avatar
    What doesn't work and what's the gimmicks?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    S beam doesn't always work, air view is buggy as hell.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 06:12 PM
  24. JHBThree's Avatar
    At least the features that are present on the Note 2 work perfectly fine for me. Of course anything someone doesn't find useful always seem to get called a gimmick. Seriously that word is getting thrown around way too much.
    They're gimmicks. Plain and simple. They don't add any functionality to the device, especially for things like s beam that only work between Samsung devices.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 06:13 PM
  25. JHBThree's Avatar
    Whenever someone outdoes everyone else there has to be done negativity

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    You really honestly think those things have 'outdone' everyone else? Hate to break it to you, but other manufacturers are laughing at all of the gimmicks that Samsung is throwing at the wall as they hope to find something that sticks. Those gimmicks are not the reason Samsung has been successful, and they won't be as long as most of them don't actually work.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 06:17 PM
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