03-24-2013 05:49 AM
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  1. chris2k5's Avatar
    I don't understand why a company has to completely overhaul the device in order for it to be considered a change. This is a complete upgrade from the S3, bigger battery, better screen, thinner, faster processor, new gimmick features, better camera. What else do you expect them to change...?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Android Central Forums
    The design...?

    Samsung has let the success get to their head. They think consumers are just plain stupid now? You can't sell a 1 year old design in 2013.
    03-14-2013 12:33 PM
  2. lpt2569's Avatar
    If you zoom in on the image of the back, the crack appears to run from the micro usb to the headphone jack.

    Sent from my Verizon Droid DNA
    Yep, I can see it. To me, this means absolutely nothing. For all we know, someone stepped on the back as it was lying on the floor, or someone was asked to bend it and see if they could crack it, or an elephant used it as a play toy. Or maybe this isn't even the real phone anyway. I know people like to go all ranty and ravy about Samsung and their continued use of plastic, but come on, this is a non-issue considering the phone has not even been released yet. But maybe that's just me talking crazy.
    03-14-2013 12:41 PM
  3. Chris8414's Avatar
    Bigger Battery???? 2600mAh battery???? the S3 is 2100mAH battery. Which means if I buy an S4 Ill still have to charge it every 10-12 hours after moderate use. Your only looking at maybe 10% more battery in the S4 than the S3
    03-14-2013 12:46 PM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    A leaked story with what MIGHT be a pre-production model where someone claims the back is cracked (I can't find pics or video that shows this, maybe someone else can) speaks to the quality of Samsung plastic? That's an interesting take on things.
    Way to single out one line of my reply. I did say that the production version should be better.
    03-14-2013 12:51 PM
  5. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    this, to you and the previous poster. i see people complain about the design being relatively unchanged every time another iteration of a phone is released, and every time i ask, "what exactly would you like to see changed about the design?" no one ever has an answer....
    So go all the way and keep the design exactly the same so people won't have to buy all new accessories.
    03-14-2013 12:52 PM
  6. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Your really going to down a phone due to a preproduction test model having a cracked back. Seems like saying a phone is bad because a preproduction test model has bugs. And other than open gl 3.0 the sgx544mp3 is far superior to the 320. Have you actually looked at benchmarks between the two the iPhone 5 beats the 320 in a lot of test. Then when you consider this will be clocked 300mhz higher and has a higher memory bandwidth. Other than using less power due to not running a15 cores. The s600 is inferior
    The 320 from the S600? Clockspeed is different.
    03-14-2013 12:54 PM
  7. msavic6's Avatar
    I think the 2600mAh battery should provide good battery life due to the more efficient screen and the more efficient processor. I'm expecting 5 hours of screen on time.

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    03-14-2013 12:56 PM
  8. LOANDROID's Avatar
    Phone arena also seem to have this information much more organized.

    1.) Demo Test Video Galaxy S4

    2.) High Res. Pic of Galaxy S4
    03-14-2013 01:05 PM
  9. infinity12402's Avatar
    So go all the way and keep the design exactly the same so people won't have to buy all new accessories.
    ok well there you go. i have no problem one way or the other. i dont honestly care what the phone looks like. ive never went out and bought, or not bought a phone because of the way it looked. i look at the specs and what it does. but everyone always complains when it looks the same or almost the same.
    03-14-2013 01:11 PM
  10. lpt2569's Avatar
    So go all the way and keep the design exactly the same so people won't have to buy all new accessories.
    HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony, Google (Nexus), etc, all change designs with each new phone they release as well, even if the changes are minor. Every Nexus device has been different from the last one. If they weren't different, think of all the web design folks who would lose their jobs maintaining the "Accessories" sections all over the intrawebs!
    03-14-2013 01:13 PM
  11. MAXXTX's Avatar
    I could care less about how plastically it is Im putting a case on it regardless, Specs are great compared to about 95% of the current smartphones available right now so Im definatly a buyer of 2 of these
    03-14-2013 01:14 PM
  12. deesugar's Avatar
    Is the Exynos better than the US version of Snapdragon 600 I assume it will have?
    No.
    Are you saying the Exynos should not have any significant power savings over the Snapdragon 600? That would be a huge failure.
    03-14-2013 01:33 PM
  13. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Perhaps this has been discussed before, but why oh why is it being called a "4.99 inch" display? Why not just a "5 inch display"? The difference between the two is so negligible -- I mean, really, measuring in inches on a ruler, you usually don't get smaller divisions than 1/16th of an inch or maybe 1/32nd, and this is between 1/64th and 1/128th of inch (closer to the later). That's ridiculous. Nobody's going to call them out for false advertisement on a 1/100th of an inch (aka basically a quarter of a millimeter) difference.
    If that is the case it's probably more of marketing than anything. Just like the effect of pricing stuff a $4.99 instead of $5.00 as on an individual. By keeping it under 5 inches (technically) it makes people believe this is still in the smartphone class, not a note 2 or other "phablet". I agree with you but I think it has an effect of some people's perception.
    03-14-2013 01:38 PM
  14. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I recently bought the note 2 so won't be getting this. However, if the leak is correct it's a little disappointing to be fair. Seems a bit of a powerhouse but im not keen on the 2600mah battery with such a large screen. Either way it will be a great phone but not really much of an upgrade.

    Will I get a new update to receive new features like apple do with their devices?



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    The screen isn't much bigger than the S3 and the S3 stock battery is 2100. This would seem like an improvement, relationally anyway.
    03-14-2013 01:41 PM
  15. JHBThree's Avatar
    The only thing they're really keeping is the design language, which has just (in the last probably 6-8 months) caught on. It's a little tired to S3 owners, but for everyone else it's not outdated. Everything else is updated. The screen is better (Apple has hardly changed its Retina display since it first appeared), the processor is much improved with better battery efficiency, the battery is larger, the camera is better, and there are some new software implementations. Just because the design language is the same doesn't mean it isn't a worthy upgrade. Plus, it doesn't make sense for Samsung to make huge changes to the visuals of TouchWiz when they'll probably overhaul it with the Key Lime Pie upgrade that will come a few months after the announcement to the S4. If I had an S3, I'd be salivating for the S4.
    This is no different than the 4 to the 4s.

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    03-14-2013 01:42 PM
  16. goelz83's Avatar
    Bigger Battery???? 2600mAh battery???? the S3 is 2100mAH battery. Which means if I buy an S4 Ill still have to charge it every 10-12 hours after moderate use. Your only looking at maybe 10% more battery in the S4 than the S3
    A 2600mAh battery is 23.8% larger than a 2100mAh battery. Not sure where your math came from but a ~25% larger battery is a significant increase.
    03-14-2013 04:48 PM
  17. smooth3006's Avatar
    A 2600mAh battery is 23.8% larger than a 2100mAh battery. Not sure where your math came from but a ~25% larger battery is a significant increase.
    2600mah won't be that great on battery. They should of went 3000mah or above like the note 2.
    03-14-2013 04:51 PM
  18. chris2k5's Avatar
    I think the 2600mAh battery should provide good battery life due to the more efficient screen and the more efficient processor. I'm expecting 5 hours of screen on time.

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    No it won't. The screen got bigger and Samsung added gimmick features that drain the battery even more. It is going to have worse battery life.

    A 2600mAh battery is 23.8% larger than a 2100mAh battery. Not sure where your math came from but a ~25% larger battery is a significant increase.
    The increase in size won't improve battery life. The screen got bigger and the new gimmick features drain battery.
    03-14-2013 04:53 PM
  19. StealthTH's Avatar
    No it won't. The screen got bigger and Samsung added gimmick features that drain the battery even more. It is going to have worse battery life.



    The increase in size won't improve battery life. The screen got bigger and the new gimmick features drain battery.
    Hmm good thing they are forcing us to use those gimmicky features with no possible way of turning them off and going from 4.8" to 4.99" oOoOoOo Big deal...
    03-14-2013 05:19 PM
  20. deesugar's Avatar
    No it won't. The screen got bigger and Samsung added gimmick features that drain the battery even more. It is going to have worse battery life.
    The screen is rumored to have 25 percent more energy efficiency and gimmicky features can be turned off (and often are). A lot of people on this site run special apps or mods to save battery life. A bigger battery will make a difference.
    03-14-2013 05:21 PM
  21. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Battery life depends on the person using the device as much as it does the battery itself.

    This is from me, on my EVO 3D.
    03-14-2013 05:29 PM
  22. goelz83's Avatar
    2600mah won't be that great on battery. They should of went 3000mah or above like the note 2.
    Some of you seem to forget that in order to make the battery larger, they would have to make the phone larger as well. The size of the battery is proportional to the battery's capacity. You want a larger battery? The phone will either have to be thicker/wider/taller. I guarantee they are putting as big of a battery as possible without sacrificing the form factor.

    Some people will never be happy though.
    03-14-2013 05:32 PM
  23. deesugar's Avatar
    Battery life depends on the person using the device as much as it does the battery itself.
    When people talk about battery life they mean it in the same way a person talks about gas mileage. It's a rating under specific conditions to give you a guide as to what you could expect but not an absolute.
    03-14-2013 05:52 PM
  24. JHBThree's Avatar
    Hmm good thing they are forcing us to use those gimmicky features with no possible way of turning them off and going from 4.8" to 4.99" oOoOoOo Big deal...
    The octa is a gimmick feature and it isn't clear how much more drain it will cause

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    03-14-2013 05:55 PM
  25. JHBThree's Avatar
    The screen is rumored to have 25 percent more energy efficiency and gimmicky features can be turned off (and often are). A lot of people on this site run special apps or mods to save battery life. A bigger battery will make a difference.
    That was one of the rumors. If its any form of amoled it is going to have horrible power consumption.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    03-14-2013 05:56 PM
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