03-21-2013 07:28 PM
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  1. Ry's Avatar
    Stop trolling and trying to pick a fight that's not there. I despise using the word "hate" in relation to anything.
    I would like to think though that folks don't buy something like a car purely based on a label alone, a motivational factor, sure. Comparing a phone with that seems a little silly.
    It ain't that serious.

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    03-14-2013 09:27 PM
  2. goelz83's Avatar
    Stop trolling and trying to pick a fight that's not there. I despise using the word "hate" in relation to anything.
    I would like to think though that folks don't buy something like a car purely based on a label alone, a motivational factor, sure. Comparing a phone with that seems a little silly.
    Seriously? I'd guess that more than 50% of U.S. consumers that buy a BMW/Lexus do so because of the label. You think they start looking at them because of the engine/features?

    (I didn't find any other decent arguments up there so I decided to switch to the automobile discussion.)
    03-14-2013 09:29 PM
  3. anon5664829's Avatar
    I know some incredibly tech savvy people that buy Apple and I argue with them about it to no end... but the thing is, some people value certain things over others and almost no one agrees 100% with me on what's important.
    My friend and I are exactly like that! We continually argue on why I continue to buy Apple products, why do I buy Apple products you ask? Because the battery life and build quality is amazing, the screen on the iPhone is better IN MY OPINION not because of size or pixel density but rather viewing angles and other such things
    03-14-2013 09:32 PM
  4. dplane's Avatar
    Seriously? I'd guess that more than 50% of U.S. consumers that buy a BMW/Lexus do so because of the label. You think they start looking at them because of the engine/features?

    (I didn't find any other decent arguments up there so I decided to switch to the automobile discussion.)
    It's obviously not for the reliability ;-)
    But even then, there are many different models, options, pricing, etc. So even then the brand isn't the deciding factor to get that particular vehicle
    03-14-2013 09:34 PM
  5. smooth3006's Avatar
    After watching this video again I feel like I just got punked by Samsung.
    03-14-2013 09:35 PM
  6. anon5664829's Avatar
    Remember when Sony was that company?

    Every empire falls.

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    I expect a rebound this year or the next because the guy responsible for locking down ios is fired.
    03-14-2013 09:35 PM
  7. goelz83's Avatar
    I expect a rebound this year or the next because the guy responsible for locking down ios is fired.
    It takes longer than that. Take a look at Blackberry.
    03-14-2013 09:39 PM
  8. goelz83's Avatar
    It's obviously not for the reliability ;-)
    But even then, there are many different models, options, pricing, etc. So even then the brand isn't the deciding factor to get that particular vehicle
    Models - iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5 - Captivate (Galaxy S), Galaxy S II (or Skyrocket), Galaxy S3
    Pricing - $1.00, $100, $200 (in general)
    Options - depends on model

    Phones costs a lot less than a vehicle but people definitely buy them based on how they want to appear to their peers.
    03-14-2013 09:42 PM
  9. anon5664829's Avatar
    It takes longer than that. Take a look at Blackberry.
    No Apple are fast workers trust me expect the next few ios updates to be much better Scot Forstall the control freaks as many Apple employees as been fired for messing up maps so as you can see apple takes stuff like this seriously.
    03-14-2013 09:46 PM
  10. goelz83's Avatar
    No Apple are fast workers trust me expect the next few ios updates to be much better Scot Forstall the control freaks as many Apple employees as been fired for messing up maps so as you can see apple takes stuff like this seriously.
    We will see.
    03-14-2013 09:47 PM
  11. dplane's Avatar
    Models - iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5 - Captivate (Galaxy S), Galaxy S II (or Skyrocket), Galaxy S3
    Pricing - $1.00, $100, $200 (in general)
    Options - depends on model

    Phones costs a lot less than a vehicle but people definitely buy them based on how they want to appear to their peers.
    Aye, but for the sake of comparison why would I hold all Sammy devices or Apple devices that came out spread over several years up as an argument that there are many options? If I compare cars and phones I would compare a new model BMW M5 to a SGS4, not to one that came out a year or longer ago or an entirely different car like a 325i. The customer buying a several year old Beamer or a several year old Captivate, is probably not quite in the same category as the one choosing the latest and greatest based on brand. In fact, I'd almost argue the opposite, in that several year old beamers are more likely to be bought by those blinded by the brand, whereas it would be opposite on the phone spectrum, no?
    03-14-2013 09:49 PM
  12. anon5664829's Avatar
    We will see.
    Yes we will but again expect the next iOS versions to be much better.
    03-14-2013 09:54 PM
  13. paul-c's Avatar
    Wasn't going to watch the presentation, but now I want to based on how bad everyone thinks it was.

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    03-14-2013 09:56 PM
  14. goelz83's Avatar
    Aye, but for the sake of comparison why would I hold all Sammy devices or Apple devices that came out spread over several years up as an argument that there are many options? If I compare cars and phones I would compare a new model BMW M5 to a SGS4, not to one that came out a year or longer ago or an entirely different car like a 325i. The customer buying a several year old Beamer or a several year old Captivate, is probably not quite in the same category as the one choosing the latest and greatest based on brand. In fact, I'd almost argue the opposite, in that several year old beamers are more likely to be bought by those blinded by the brand, whereas it would be opposite on the phone spectrum, no?
    I understand what you are saying, but Apple is really the only manufacturer that only releases one device a year. Samsung has released the Note II, GSIII, Rugby Pro, and the Express all within the past six months. HTC has the One X+, One VX, and the One. LG has the Optimus G and the Optimus G Pro.

    This goes back to what I think is a problem with Apple's business model - I would think most consumers would like to have a choice to buy a current model at a reasonable price. I know this isn't the case though because I see how many people come in every day to buy an iPhone 4.
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    03-14-2013 09:57 PM
  15. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    Wasn't going to watch the presentation, but now I want to based on how bad everyone thinks it was.
    The presentation itself was a bit dumb.
    The phone looks like a worthy successor to the S3. Same family resemblance in the case style but all new otherwise.

    Just ignore the haters that came here to argue.
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    03-14-2013 10:01 PM
  16. FitChicago's Avatar
    I thought JK Shin's presentation was absolutely brilliant! Shin showcased Samsung's customer-first innovation strategy from the perspective of innovations the customer has asked for and innovations Samsung has developed by examining the global marketplace and consumer and implementing tools to benefit every aspect of a customer's life. Shin's repeated use of the word imagine was a powerful way to communicate how Samsung takes the consumer's imagination and through innovation makes technology from science fiction movies become a reality for the everyday consumer. I am quite impressed; while Apple's presentations tend to spoon-feed the US market, Shin's presentation at Unpacked demonstrated Samsung's commitment to the complete global marketplace.
    03-14-2013 10:05 PM
  17. anon5664829's Avatar
    The presentation itself was a bit dumb.
    The phone looks like a worthy successor to the S3. Same family resemblance in the case style but all new otherwise.

    Just ignore the haters that came here to argue.
    Just like the iPhone 5
    03-14-2013 10:07 PM
  18. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    I thought JK Shin's presentation was absolutely brilliant! Shin showcased Samsung's customer-first innovation strategy from the perspective of innovations the customer has asked for and innovations Samsung has developed by examining the global marketplace and consumer and implementing tools to benefit every aspect of a customer's life. Shin's repeated use of the word imagine was a powerful way to communicate how Samsung takes the consumer's imagination and through innovation makes technology from science fiction movies become a reality for the everyday consumer. I am quite impressed; while Apple's presentations tend to spoon-feed the US market, Shin's presentation at Unpacked demonstrated Samsung's commitment to the complete global marketplace.
    I won't disagree with that, he gave a nice speech, but it was so short it seemed like an intro to the rest of it.
    03-14-2013 10:08 PM
  19. dplane's Avatar
    I won't disagree with that, he gave a nice speech, but it was so short it seemed like an intro to the rest of it.
    Aye, the transition seemed a bit clunky at best. But kudos to the guy for giving a solid speech in a language that doesn't exactly seem to come natural to him. Think they could have used him a little better, perhaps in conjunction with "Mr. Elaboration" (can't remember his name), rather than the whole Broadway spiel. I would have liked to see a bit more in-depth discussion of the hardware nitty gritty. A bit more of a serious introduction to the screen, battery, air touch and some of the other slightly more technical "features" could have probably been done while still maintaining some of the "fruitier" elements to the show Sammy seemed to be going for.

    And Goelz; points well taken. Wasn't quite sure the message came across clearly. Long day! ;-)
    03-14-2013 10:22 PM
  20. FitChicago's Avatar
    I won't disagree with that, he gave a nice speech, but it was so short it seemed like an intro to the rest of it.
    The integration between Shin's "imagine if", "what if", "if you" introductory statements and the simple branding of "Samsung Knox" or "S Health" projected on the screen was seamless and simple; in my opinion it laid the foundation to build the connection and, more importantly, be the spark for conversational buzz about the device--- Shin gave "in the know" folks like us (as well as media folks) a number of "OMG you're not going to believe what the new Samsung Galaxy can do" to share with others. Everything in his presentation was brilliantly tied together by imagination, innovation and how it will benefit the consumer.

    On another note, did anyone else notice that when mentioning Samsung Knox that Shin highlighted that the S4 makes the need for separate work and personal devices obsolete? I think that Samsung is aggressively going after those corporations who feel that Blackberry is the only secure option for their employees.
    03-14-2013 10:24 PM
  21. dplane's Avatar

    On another note, did anyone else notice that when mentioning Samsung Knox that Shin highlighted that the S4 makes the need for separate work and personal devices obsolete? I think that Samsung is aggressively going after those corporations who feel that Blackberry is the only secure option for their employees.
    I do sincerely hope that Google and Sammy have been working closely together on this. Can't imagine Mountain View wanting them to give the perception that it's all Samsung and not the Android OS, that allows for this to be possible. Wouldn't be surprised to see Key Lime Pie to have its own implementation of something "Knox-like". (brilliant name btw)
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    03-14-2013 10:26 PM
  22. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    On another note, did anyone else notice that when mentioning Samsung Knox that Shin highlighted that the S4 makes the need for separate work and personal devices obsolete? I think that Samsung is aggressively going after those corporations who feel that Blackberry is the only secure option for their employees.
    Oh yes. I wonder if they'll go after that big US .gov contract BB had.
    FitChicago likes this.
    03-14-2013 10:27 PM
  23. FitChicago's Avatar
    Aye, the transition seemed a bit clunky at best. But kudos to the guy for giving a solid speech in a language that doesn't exactly seem to come natural to him.
    I am sure that many people in the Twitterverse (you know the type who believe that the rest of the world should adapt to everything American) probably poked fun at Shin's delivery. I'd challenge anyone who felt that way to travel to South Korea and make a presentation about anything speaking only Korean...
    03-14-2013 10:35 PM
  24. Shawn Magm's Avatar
    Wasn't going to watch the presentation, but now I want to based on how bad everyone thinks it was.

    Sent from my Motorola RAZR i
    Presentation was lame, corny and cheesy. Too broadway. Looks like it was marketed to a bunch of housewives. The girl in the black/white dress was beautiful, though.
    03-14-2013 10:35 PM
  25. FitChicago's Avatar
    Oh yes. I wonder if they'll go after that big US .gov contract BB had.
    That would be a huge coup d'etat if Samsung pulled that off.

    I think that Samsung's timing couldn't be more perfect to aggressively pitch both corporations and government agencies about the S4. I am curious to learn what Samsung will present to those audiences to both over-satisfy their unique security concerns and differentiate their offering from both Apple and Blackberry in order to convince corporations and government agencies that the S4 is far and away the best choice to meet and exceed their needs.
    03-14-2013 10:43 PM
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