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It was most excellent. If only it had a removable battery.Gnex has a PPI of like 200 vs DNA is up in the 440s DNAs screen will stomp it all day
It was most excellent. If only it had a removable battery.Gnex has a PPI of like 200 vs DNA is up in the 440s DNAs screen will stomp it all day
Is it really so bad I feel passionately about quality?
Samsung should be blasted by every person. There are zero people that could look at both phones and say the PenTile display looks clearer.
Pentile is clearly an inferior product.
Trying to figure out why you think IPS is bad, when it's a pretty great form of LCD technology.
And yes, LCD isn't as good at blacks, but it's so much better at everything else that it's contrast ratio is higher. Brightness is more important than black level as long as the black level is "good enough" in the LCD. In the SLCD2 it was really good (best display of last year).
AMOLED is over saturated. LCD is more accurate in that regard. PenTile is not just one particular type of sub pixel arrangement. It covers multiple forms of non-RGB stripe layouts. "diamond" matrix sure does sound like a great marketing term. It gets people to stop saying PenTile. Smart of Samsung (or whoever made it up).
Still no links...
I think the comments from both sides are pretty extremist.
I had an S3 and I personally did find text in particular have a certain 'grain' to them and weren't as crisp as text on the iPhone 5 or HTC One X. Not sure if that was due to pentile or not.
At the resolution the S4 has, I don't think grain should be an issue. However, sunlight visibility, web browsing battery life and colour accuracy are important to me, which are areas I feel that LCD excel over AMOLED.
From GSMARENA review
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php
Where the One runs into a problem is sunlight legibility - it's good, but not great. It's comparable to that of a Sony Xperia Z and noticeably better than that of the HTC Butterfly. However, the Galaxy S4 screen is just less reflective, giving it better sunlight legibility even if the maximum brightness is lower.
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S4. The Samsung flagship takes this one, as its screen is bigger, with better sunlight legibility, while still offering you the option to have accurate colors thanks to Adobe RGB mode. The HTC One screen is impressive, too, but the higher pixel density can't really make up for the lower native contrast and slightly inferior sunlight legibility.
From my Galaxy Note 2 via Tapatalk
Pentile also brings with it a noticeable decrease in sharpness (less subpixels per inch). It is still apparent (admittedly only with close observation) that the S4 is not as sharp compared to its 1080p LCD peers. Check out the phone arena comparisons. Not as bad as the SIII (which looked pretty bad in comparison) but the problem is still there.
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/130061-image/screen-comparison-galaxy-s4.jpg
They have a zoomed in comparison on their page as well. The problem is much more apparent there. Still, don't think this will be too visible in everyday use.
This is what I hated about the Rezound - how reflective the screen was. Does this have something to do with LCDs vs. AMOLED or is it just the glass over top of the display that is so reflective?Where the One runs into a problem is sunlight legibility - it's good, but not great. It's comparable to that of a Sony Xperia Z and noticeably better than that of the HTC Butterfly. However, the Galaxy S4 screen is just less reflective, giving it better sunlight legibility even if the maximum brightness is lower.
OK, now I understand why I read that the pentile screens for any given number of subpixels have higher resolution - it's because they have 2 subpixels per pixel. If resolution is pixels per inch (ppi) and each AMOLED pixel has only 2 subpixels per pixel compared to an LCD screen which has 3 subpixels per pixel, then for any given number of subpixels a pentile screen will have more pixels and therefore higher resolution.Still, it should be noted that the Super AMOLED on the Galaxy S4 uses a PenTile matrix, which means there are fewer sub-pixels in total (two per pixel instead of three).
What does this mean?One thing is for sure though, there is a difference between the 400+ppi screens and the 300+ppi screens of the last generation, though it's not a Retina-scale revolution.
Pentile also brings with it a noticeable decrease in sharpness (less subpixels per inch). It is still apparent (admittedly only with close observation) that the S4 is not as sharp compared to its 1080p LCD peers. Check out the phone arena comparisons. Not as bad as the SIII (which looked pretty bad in comparison) but the problem is still there.
They have a zoomed in comparison on their page as well. The problem is much more apparent there. Still, don't think this will be too visible in everyday use.
This is what I hated about the Rezound - how reflective the screen was. Does this have something to do with LCDs vs. AMOLED or is it just the glass over top of the display that is so reflective?
OK, now I understand why I read that the pentile screens for any given number of subpixels have higher resolution - it's because they have 2 subpixels per pixel. If resolution is pixels per inch (ppi) and each AMOLED pixel has only 2 subpixels per pixel compared to an LCD screen which has 3 subpixels per pixel, then for any given number of subpixels a pentile screen will have more pixels and therefore higher resolution.
But that seems worse for the viewer since it decreases sharpness, no?
Higher contrast ratio gives you a larger color gaumet because they're are more shades of grey.How is contrast important to a viewer?
I think they just meant that retina was a huge leap in display resolution technology. where now despite being very effective they changes are not as dramaticWhat does this mean?
WTF? Why would they put such a reflective piece of glass over the display?The glass
I just took that from the review that you posted.You are still thinking in old pentile ways. Please refer to post #177 of this thread you will see they have more subpixels because the new subpixels are much smaller and fills in more gaps evenly.
WTF? Why would they put such a reflective piece of glass over the display?
I just took that from the review that you posted.
Is there any benefit? Does it increase brightness?I have never seen the rezound in person.
Tvs do this. Some get glass over them and look awesome in the dark, until you turn on a light in the room and it becomes a mirror lol
Is there any benefit? Does it increase brightness?
So it makes it brighter indoors and less usable outdoors?There is an effect called outcoupling the glass optic pulls and directs more light from the display.
So it makes it brighter indoors and less usable outdoors?
OK, now I understand why I read that the pentile screens for any given number of subpixels have higher resolution - it's because they have 2 subpixels per pixel. If resolution is pixels per inch (ppi) and each AMOLED pixel has only 2 subpixels per pixel compared to an LCD screen which has 3 subpixels per pixel, then for any given number of subpixels a pentile screen will have more pixels and therefore higher resolution.
But that seems worse for the viewer since it decreases sharpness, no?
It's probably right. I was just quoting from the article.Forgive me if ive got this wrong, but wouldnt it be 2-1/2 sub pixels? Isn't each whole pixel basically sharing a green sub pixel with its neighbor?