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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    Too much hate = sad knee high trolls with more ear hair than a wallaby.
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    03-21-2013 01:59 AM
  2. anon5664829's Avatar
    1. The S4 lagged(possible due to pre production unit)
    2. What the **** do you expect? the iPhone is boarder line 7 months old. and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.
    03-21-2013 03:25 AM
  3. Johnly's Avatar
    Too much hate = sad knee high trolls with more ear hair than a wallaby.
    Lol

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    03-21-2013 03:37 AM
  4. goelz83's Avatar
    and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.
    Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).
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    03-21-2013 07:36 AM
  5. MikeLip's Avatar
    Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).
    Has anyone run comparative benchmarks on them? I haven't seen any. If not, there are no facts to back up anyones opinion as to actual, useable speed. My money says they will both be frikkin' fast.
    Topgonzo likes this.
    03-21-2013 07:52 AM
  6. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).
    Cause it's a Samsung product and he just universally hates everything Samsung. Honestly though whether or not the S4 beats the One will vary from person to person, that's it.
    crester and TheOtherBill like this.
    03-21-2013 08:39 AM
  7. cormaster628's Avatar
    So anyway my "hate" is gone. Yeah the presentation was terrible and at a glance it seems like a minor update. But reality is its a major update and it is superior to the gs3. A couple thoughts.

    *cheap plastic - everyone harps on this too much. Samsung phones may appear cheap, but they are tough as nails, I've typically gone longer with them without making a warranty claim then any other manufacturer. Also it's made out of polycarbonate, the same material used to make the "not so cheap" One X. The cheapness notion might come more from the fact it's battery is removable, but wouldn't we all rather have a removable battery?

    *Updates. Samsung does it better than the rest, but still this is something that your going to deal with with all oems, however at least Samsung makes it easy to go stock Android yourself, vs others like the nightmare that is htc. Otherwise if your worried about KLP, get a nexus!

    *skins as we call them. Samsungs touchwiz has come along way and it's very nice. Overall if you don't wanna deal with that stuff, again get a nexus. Otherwise don't complain, because it's pointless. It's been said a million times, but before you purchase a phone, make sure you go with the intent of buying a said model for what it is, not what it might be.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    03-21-2013 08:48 AM
  8. Podunks's Avatar
    So anyway my "hate" is gone. Yeah the presentation was terrible and at a glance it seems like a minor update. But reality is its a major update and it is superior to the gs3. A couple thoughts.

    *cheap plastic - everyone harps on this too much. Samsung phones may appear cheap, but they are tough as nails, I've typically gone longer with them without making a warranty claim then any other manufacturer. Also it's made out of polycarbonate, the same material used to make the "not so cheap" One X. The cheapness notion might come more from the fact it's battery is removable, but wouldn't we all rather have a removable battery?

    *Updates. Samsung does it better than the rest, but still this is something that your going to deal with with all oems, however at least Samsung makes it easy to go stock Android yourself, vs others like the nightmare that is htc. Otherwise if your worried about KLP, get a nexus!
    Spot on, I find the cheap* complaints silly. My Samsung Focus is the same, and have lasted through quite a few big drops over the last year and a half/2 years..

    With that Cheap* poly-carbonate, you get a reduced weight... HTC One - 5oz, S4 - 4.59oz...

    Also, the software updates, look fantastic!! This idea that they are gimmicky is funny.... As that seems to be an excuse to hate on the S4. Other than main applications such as email, etc. Arnt all software updates, gimmicky? Yet people only whine now....

    I would jump ship to wp8 in a heartbeat if they fixed a few things that would bother me too much because it's a damn fast OS and I kinda like the whole UI appearance, the MS ecosystem. But the notification system is far poorer than jelly bean's and using Xbox music to manage music sucks terribly. No file management either.
    I would stick with it, if I was not limited to the teeth by Microsoft... Really though, no file management, or browsers. Developers are held back by Microsoft's rules. They wont even let devs have access to some hardware like internal compass, etc.

    Otherwise, I looove WP8! But its just not mature enough yet.
    03-21-2013 09:05 AM
  9. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    1. The S4 lagged(possible due to pre production unit)
    2. What the **** do you expect? the iPhone is boarder line 7 months old. and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.
    Every phone can lag, I doubt the HTC One will never lag in its lifetime

    Galaxy S4: fastest smartphone ever - Telegraph
    03-21-2013 09:45 AM
  10. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Has anyone run comparative benchmarks on them? I haven't seen any. If not, there are no facts to back up anyones opinion as to actual, useable speed. My money says they will both be frikkin' fast.
    03-21-2013 09:46 AM
  11. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Benchmarks are easily tampered with, they're no more credible in comparing phones than drop tests (which have no credibility at all.)
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    03-21-2013 09:48 AM
  12. Podunks's Avatar
    Benchmarks are easily tampered with, they're no more credible in comparing phones than drop tests (which have no credibility at all.)
    A person can discredit anything they want, to suede any argument they please in their favor......
    03-21-2013 09:55 AM
  13. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    A person can discredit anything they want, to suede any argument they please in their favor......
    Do some research on benchmarks and you'll see how they can be fixed to show the results certain people want them to show.
    03-21-2013 10:00 AM
  14. MikeLip's Avatar
    Yes! S4! Take that, HTC!

    It still won't make any difference in actual use. It's not that much difference, and it's only one benchmark. But still, sweet!
    03-21-2013 10:43 AM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Benchmarks are easily tampered with, they're no more credible in comparing phones than drop tests (which have no credibility at all.)
    Yeah thats true, but I try and get my info from multiple sources....and if all these sources have tampered with their benchmark scores....May God help us all






    "Both versions of the Galaxy S4 should be faster than the One. But as high-end smartphone engines have outpaced the performance requirements of most apps, right now the difference may not show anywhere but in benchmarks."
    - GizMag
    Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One

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    03-21-2013 10:51 AM
  16. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Yeah thats true, but I try and get my info from multiple sources....and if all these sources have tampered with their benchmark scores....May God help us all

    http://image20.it168.com/201303_500x...d8c5d04fd6.jpg

    http://www.theandroidsoul.com/wp-con...-benchmark.jpg


    "Both versions of the Galaxy S4 should be faster than the One. But as high-end smartphone engines have outpaced the performance requirements of most apps, right now the difference may not show anywhere but in benchmarks."
    - GizMag
    Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One

    http://cdn.techpp.com/wp-content/upl...s-iphone-5.jpg
    I'd be surprised if they ALL tampered with the results. I'd like to think there are at least a few trusted sources left.
    03-21-2013 10:58 AM
  17. Podunks's Avatar
    Do some research on benchmarks and you'll see how they can be fixed to show the results certain people want them to show.
    Oh I know they can full well, I was more laughing at the fact that you were using that as your sole excuse for discrediting the particular benchmark.

    There have been numerous benchmarks done already, all in favor of the S4, so your point was made to suede the outlook in your favor, or against the S4 it seemed.
    03-21-2013 11:18 AM
  18. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Oh I know they can full well, I was more laughing at the fact that you were using that as your sole excuse for discrediting the particular benchmark.

    There have been numerous benchmarks done already, all in favor of the S4, so your point was made to suede the outlook in your favor, or against the S4 it seemed.
    None of the above, merely pointing out a fact. You clearly know nothing about me. lol
    03-21-2013 11:43 AM
  19. smooth3006's Avatar
    im still going to wait to see the next nexus device before i make a decision. still tor between the one and s4.
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    03-21-2013 12:15 PM
  20. GrooveRite's Avatar
    None of the above, merely pointing out a fact. You clearly know nothing about me. lol
    Judging by your screen name.....I'm going to venture out and say you listen to Death Metal music and do sacrificial incantations/voodoo-ery! Am I close?!?! lol
    03-21-2013 12:34 PM
  21. anon5664829's Avatar
    Cause it's a Samsung product and he just universally hates everything Samsung. Honestly though whether or not the S4 beats the One will vary from person to person, that's it.
    No, honestly the S4 is good I do want it, but tho reason Irefuse to believe it is that's its the same hard ware so it shouldn't be faster.
    03-21-2013 12:59 PM
  22. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    No, honestly the S4 is good I do want it, but tho reason Irefuse to believe it is that's its the same hard ware so it shouldn't be faster.
    Same processor but different GHz...Im sure it will make a small difference
    03-21-2013 01:08 PM
  23. Podunks's Avatar
    None of the above, merely pointing out a fact. You clearly know nothing about me. lol
    I would never claim to. I have never seen you before. I am not looking to start a fight, just found your remark humorous.

    Same processor but different GHz...Im sure it will make a small difference
    Strictly speaking, the hardware alone would denote an increase in performance, especially at the current clocks most phones run at, that 200mhz is a decent step up.
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    03-21-2013 01:14 PM
  24. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Yeah thats true, but I try and get my info from multiple sources....and if all these sources have tampered with their benchmark scores....May God help us all

    http://image20.it168.com/201303_500x...d8c5d04fd6.jpg

    http://www.theandroidsoul.com/wp-con...-benchmark.jpg


    "Both versions of the Galaxy S4 should be faster than the One. But as high-end smartphone engines have outpaced the performance requirements of most apps, right now the difference may not show anywhere but in benchmarks."
    - GizMag
    Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One

    http://cdn.techpp.com/wp-content/upl...s-iphone-5.jpg
    You place a LOT of reliance in benchmarks. I'm sorry to tell you that benchmarks are notorious for having little to zero impact on how fast your phone actually works in real daily use. I also hope you realize that you're not even going to be able to actually see the difference between those above phones with the naked eye. Are you aware that the newest low-mid level Nokia WP8 phones actually work just as quickly in real world use as the highest scoring phone on your charts above, with 512 RAM and dual core CPU's?

    WP8 does not support Geekbench 2, but if it did the S4 would 'crush it' according to you. The funny part is that it doesn't even work any faster than a dual core 512 RAM Nokia in real world use. So much for benchmarks. None of my statements above even mention tampering. Because they don't even need to. If I ever happen to need a smartphone mostly just for running Geekbench 2 though I'll find your charts useful

    What I don't understand is that you seem to already agree with me because you even quoted something to that effect in your own post:

    "Both versions of the Galaxy S4 should be faster than the One. But as high-end smartphone engines have outpaced the performance requirements of most apps, right now the difference may not show anywhere but in benchmarks."
    - GizMag

    So if so, what's your purpose in quoting the benchmarks in the first place?
    MikeLip likes this.
    03-21-2013 03:51 PM
  25. racedog's Avatar
    I've never really understood the point of these types of threads. Who cares what somebody else prefers! I have friends with iphones and they love them. I have friends with HTC phones and they love them. I love my S3. The only time it really mattered was when I met "her". I liked hers and she liked mine so we decided to get married and now we share them with each other, and you can take that anyway you like!
    TBolt likes this.
    03-21-2013 04:16 PM
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