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  1. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Who buys a smartphone just for the display and the case build materials? Only those that are fans of those brands and value style over performance. The improvements to the internal hardware, user interface, the camera and JB 4.2.2 gives the GS4 the edge in the user experience which is really what counts. It is really impressive how a 5 inch HD display was fit in the same space as its predecessor. Complaints of the GS3 were non HD display and the battery life wasn't great; both aspects were improved. Some will never see the big picture and some will never be happy.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet
    People that have questionable priorities.

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    03-15-2013 09:04 AM
  2. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
    Samsung has become the Apple of Android manufacturers. So they now get the scrutiny and fans of other devices are getting tired of Samsung fans because they are becoming like Apple fans by thinking everything Samsung does is gold and everything else sucks. What goes around, comes around. And even we're all using the same platform it's still a rivalry because Samsung's success doesn't help HTC or any other company making Android devices.
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    03-15-2013 09:05 AM
  3. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Samsung has become the Apple of Android manufacturers. So they now get the scrutiny and fans of other devices are getting tired of Samsung fans because they are becoming like Apple fans by thinking everything Samsung does is gold and everything else sucks. What goes around, comes around. And even we're all using the same platform it's still a rivalry because Samsung's success doesn't help HTC or any other company making Android devices.
    To be fair HTC fans act like everything Samsung makes sucks.

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    03-15-2013 09:06 AM
  4. BBSeattle's Avatar
    People are inherently insecure; having a different opinion frightens some (scary that this phenomenon includes cell phones).
    Who cares what others think, buy what you like and use it.
    As far as the S4, meh, looks like the S2, S3 and Note2. Great features and software, just wish they would have updated the form factor and build quality.
    I'm sure it's a great phone.
    Lastly, I certainly hope they addressed the intermittent GPS issues like they have on the Verizon S3.
    03-15-2013 09:07 AM
  5. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    No, HTC is trying to be the Apple of the Android world. Every flaw the Apple phones have, HTC copies. Locked battery. No SD card slot.

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    Not sure something intended by design is a "flaw". Also one could argue again that Samsung is trying to be the new Apple.... you know, incremental upgrades from year to year but no real leaps and bounds over last year. A person can spin things anyway they want. And it's silly.
    03-15-2013 09:09 AM
  6. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Not sure something intended by design is a "flaw". Also one could argue again that Samsung is trying to be the new Apple.... you know, incremental upgrades from year to year but no real leaps and bounds over last year. A person can spin things anyway they want. And it's silly.
    Not really. Have you ever seen Apple put in so many features at once? And I mean ones that are noticeable or even talked about. At most they put in one feature that is 2 years behind and only so people will but their next model. Or something they took from someone else and improved on but then claim they invented it.
    03-15-2013 09:13 AM
  7. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    To be fair HTC fans act like everything Samsung makes sucks.

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    I agree. But again, that's the backlash that Samsung gets now. Just like Android fans would bash any and everything Apple even if they never used one. HTC fans are doing it to Samsung and they use build quality and their argument. So I agree, but it's the same story, just a different fan base toward another company. And it's just more deliberate and outspoken than it ever was because 2 years ago HTC and Samsung were on an even play field so HTC fans didn't have to be as aggressive. Now that Samsung has surpassed them in every way they are now more vocal about their displeasure.
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    03-15-2013 09:16 AM
  8. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    I agree. But again, that's the backlash that Samsung gets now. Just like Android fans would bash any and everything Apple even if they never used one. HTC fans are doing it to Samsung and they use build quality and their argument. So I agree, but it's the same story, just a different fan base toward another company. And it's just more deliberate and outspoken than it ever was because 2 years ago HTC and Samsung were on an even play field so HTC fans didn't have to be as aggressive. Now that Samsung has surpassed them in every way they are now more vocal about their displeasure.
    I disagree about the first part, plenty of Android fans don't bash apple every chance they get. They just don't talk about it obviously so you don't hear them as much.

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    03-15-2013 09:18 AM
  9. planoman's Avatar
    It is hard to have breakthrough devices every year. Some will be incremental improvements. If you want the HTC One or the Experia 7 get them. I am happy for the new stuff which raises the bar. I am a Samsung fan. I might not get the S4 but that does not mean I do not like or respect Samsung just because the S4 is an incremental improvement.

    My Note 2 is the best device on the market period IMO, so I can wait for the Note 3.

    Sent from my Nexus 7
    03-15-2013 09:20 AM
  10. Irvgotti's Avatar
    At the event, was that the finished product? Sometimes they will have a good enough version to show but not the 100% working phone.. if it's the finished product... why the lag?

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    03-15-2013 09:23 AM
  11. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    It is hard to have breakthrough devices every year. Some will be incremental improvements. If you want the HTC One or the Experia 7 get them. I am happy for the new stuff which raises the bar. I am a Samsung fan. I might not get the S4 but that does not mean I like or respect Samsung just because the S4 is an incremental improvement.

    My Note 2 is the best device on the market period IMO, so I can wait for the Note 3.

    Sent from my Nexus 7
    Just thought I'd point out, I think you mean "doesn't mean I don't like or respect Samsung" unless you meant to say you don't like or respect them.

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    03-15-2013 09:23 AM
  12. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Not really. Have you ever seen Apple put in so many features at once? And I mean ones that are noticeable or even talked about. At most they put in one feature that is 2 years behind and only so people will but their next model. Or something they took from someone else and improved on but then claim they invented it.
    Not sure what you are saying but my point to the other user was that something you call a flaw, isn't necessarily the case. It's just designed a specific way for a purpose that you may not like. Doesn't make it a "flaw".

    And with regards to the latter part of your statement, when did I say Apple didn't do those things? I just said like Apple, Samsung is doing an incremental update to an already successful phone. I'm actually not mad at that, but it's the reality of the situation. And I don't really remember Apple claiming to be the inventor of much BUT innovation doesn't mean being the creator. Apple fans probably do. But innovation also means taking technology that is already existent and making it usable in a new and different way or advancing it. What most of these companies are doing isn't new....... they are just creative new ways to do it. So my point was not to praise Apple for doing anything but to point out that Samsung is pretty much following suit. Not by design but it's just seems to be the most logical step. And I actually don't have a problem with that.
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    03-15-2013 09:24 AM
  13. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I disagree about the first part, plenty of Android fans don't bash apple every chance they get. They just don't talk about it obviously so you don't hear them as much.

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    Never said ALL android fans bash Apple every chance they get. I'm talking about those apply and there is a hefty population of those users just like there a lot that like both iOS and Android and some that couldn't care less. But I never said ALL.
    Ry likes this.
    03-15-2013 09:27 AM
  14. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Reading through this thread, it's clear some are not stellar in comprehension or deductive reasoning. Hmmmmmmmmm.
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    03-15-2013 09:28 AM
  15. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Never said ALL android fans bash Apple every chance they get. I'm talking about those apply and there is a hefty population of those users just like there a lot that like both iOS and Android and some that couldn't care less. But I never said ALL.
    Fair enough.

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    03-15-2013 09:29 AM
  16. mightyfacundo's Avatar
    Why so much hate???

    Because Samsung deserves it, and here's why:

    * Each year, Samsung executives take two "team building" trips. The first is to the Arctic, where they club baby seals. The second is a whaling expedition in the Japan Sea where each Exec is required to harpoon a whale due to the company's belief that whale oil improves virility, thus somehow increasing sales.

    * Does anyone remember Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? That was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to expose the Cult of Sammy.

    * Samsung is clearly the money behind every terrorist movement in the world.

    * Samsung hates children.

    * And finally, every time a Samsung device is purchased, an angel loses their wings.

    Knowing all of these "facts", is it any wonder there's so much hate directed their way?!?


    Sent from my DNA
    03-15-2013 09:34 AM
  17. planoman's Avatar
    The hate for Samsung is so strong people would trade their precious SD cards and removable batteries for the One. Funny I was led to believe that those things plus locked bootloaders were supposed to be the reason HTC was failing. Seriously anything Samsung would've done would be called gimmicky or ripping off of the Note series.


    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    There are still some that this is a non starter for but less and less. Look at the nexus 4 sell. While I prefer those things, they are not absolutes for me any longer.

    Sent from my Nexus 7
    03-15-2013 09:42 AM
  18. Chuckles 135's Avatar
    I think people have unrealistic expectations for one thing. Not just for this phone but for others. Technology only advances so far and this is arguably the most feature packed device in terms of hardware and software you can buy today.
    However the HTC One has shown a premium build that is close to or equivalent to the iPhone 5 for the first time in an Android device and Samsung has gone with the same plasticky build and look. I think that's part of it.
    FYI people who say the iPhone 5 is the same as the 4 and 4s simply don't know what they are talking about.
    Speaking of build quality Samsung S4 vs. HTC One vs. IPhone 5. Everyone is ragging on the fact that Samsung went w/ a poly-carbonate frame again but those same people complained when the IPhone 5 was showing up with scratches out of the box. I think Samsungs choice in using the poly-carbonate is more than just looks. They went with something they new would continue to hold up to scratches better without it being glaringly obvious like the IPhone 5 does and undoubtedly the HTC One will. That being said if the only thing you can say is you don't like the material used to construct your precious new phone put a freaking case on it like the vast majority of people do.

    As far as the other differences between HTC One and Samsung S4 from what I can tell it's gonna come down to personal preference. I have owned both a Samsung and HTC android phone (had the Samsung Moment & currently HTC EVO 3d) and loved them both while simultaneously wanting to strangle the crap out of them. I'm still not sure which phone I am going to upgrade too but am leaning towards the S4 just from using my wifes S3. No matter what I get though I'm sure I'll have buyers remorse later.
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    03-15-2013 11:37 AM
  19. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    No, HTC is trying to be the Apple of the Android world. Every flaw the Apple phones have, HTC copies. Locked battery. No SD card slot.

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    Those "flaws" you mentioned are purely subjective.

    I guess the Nexus 4 is "flawed" and copying Apple too then...
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    03-15-2013 11:50 AM
  20. Irvgotti's Avatar
    I've had my MacBook pro for 5 years. No scratches.. been on the beach with it. So I'm sure the one won't scratch that easy. And if I'm not mistaken. Didn't HTC start using the polycarbonate backing first? My g.f s3 doesn't feel as good as my DNA. And it's the same.. so why does Samsung feel so cheap compared to HTC when they use the same material on the back?

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    03-15-2013 12:05 PM
  21. tohio's Avatar
    Until another OEM comes along with a bigger marketing campaign on its flagship device it will be hard to shut down Samsung. Even if Samsung's new S4 isn't everyone's cup of tea it will still sell big and its due to the massive amount dropped into advertising the heck out of it. Its a smart move, the average non techy forum consumers look at these commercials, ads in magazines, online and word of mouth about the Samsung Galaxy line and they assume it has to be the best when they don't hear nearly as much from HTC, LG and others...
    Paul, I find the "Samsung has such a large advertising budget that's why they sell so many phones" argument to be without merit. Microsoft has been advertising the crap out of their new tablet and yet it's sales are disappointing. I know that Ford spent a ton of money promoting the Edsel and it was an embarrassing failure. If the Galaxy S 3 was an inferior product all the advertising in the world wouldn't cause it to have sold in the millions like it has. Likewise, if HTC, Motorola, LG, etc had a killer phone it would sell like hot cakes even with mediocre marketing efforts. Bottom line, massive ad campaigns can not sell an inferior or ill received product.
    03-15-2013 12:09 PM
  22. Johnly's Avatar
    Oh my......lol! The exact cause of the hate remains unknown. Keep em coming. ....popcorn is almost up!
    03-15-2013 12:10 PM
  23. smooth3006's Avatar
    there's alot of hate because they pulled an apple on us.
    03-15-2013 12:11 PM
  24. tohio's Avatar
    Those "flaws" you mentioned are purely subjective.

    I guess the Nexus 4 is "flawed" and copying Apple too then...
    How is the lack of an SD card subjective? If the HTC One came in two models, one with an SD slot and one without which one do you think would be the best seller?
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    03-15-2013 12:11 PM
  25. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    How is the lack of an SD card subjective? If the HTC One came in two models, one with an SD slot and one without which one do you think would be the best seller?
    Because not everyone cares about SD card slots.
    03-15-2013 12:13 PM
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