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  1. Christopher Salse's Avatar
    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
    03-15-2013 12:00 AM
  2. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
    It's very simple. HTC and Sony's new offerings are gorgeous phones. Both Samsung diehards as well as some fence sitters hoping for more equal range of choices this year were really hoping that Samsung would abandon their current design for something to outplay the others and they didn't, and now there's backlash. In short, they basically "pulled an Apple" without having the iPhone's less fickle fanbase.
    03-15-2013 12:10 AM
  3. Ry's Avatar
    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
    It's every OEM's goal to get you to buy their device AND have your next device to be from them as well. The lines are being drawn.
    03-15-2013 12:16 AM
  4. matt0715's Avatar
    All you have to do is look at the htc one and people will assume its better than the s4. The outside always gives the first impression. The s4 is ugly personally as it is plagued with these weird dots. Also, creating little gimmicks is not innovating. The s4 will be a hit no doubt, but build quality is becoming more important these days as specs begin to max out.
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    03-15-2013 12:20 AM
  5. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    The hate for Samsung is so strong people would trade their precious SD cards and removable batteries for the One. Funny I was led to believe that those things plus locked bootloaders were supposed to be the reason HTC was failing. Seriously anything Samsung would've done would be called gimmicky or ripping off of the Note series.


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    03-15-2013 12:37 AM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    The hate for Samsung is so strong people would trade their precious SD cards and removable batteries for the One. Funny I was led to believe that those things plus locked bootloaders were supposed to be the reason HTC was failing. Seriously anything Samsung would've done would be called gimmicky or ripping off of the Note series.


    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    The hate for Samsung is all talk.

    Samsung will still outsell everyone.
    03-15-2013 12:41 AM
  7. Paul627g's Avatar
    Until another OEM comes along with a bigger marketing campaign on its flagship device it will be hard to shut down Samsung. Even if Samsung's new S4 isn't everyone's cup of tea it will still sell big and its due to the massive amount dropped into advertising the heck out of it. Its a smart move, the average non techy forum consumers look at these commercials, ads in magazines, online and word of mouth about the Samsung Galaxy line and they assume it has to be the best when they don't hear nearly as much from HTC, LG and others...
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    03-15-2013 12:44 AM
  8. matt0715's Avatar
    The hate for Samsung is all talk.

    Samsung will still outsell everyone.
    I agree, but only because of the marketing.

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    03-15-2013 12:54 AM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    I agree, but only because of the marketing.

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    The Galaxy S4 isn't a bad phone.
    03-15-2013 01:01 AM
  10. Irvgotti's Avatar
    Samsung is the new apple.

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    03-15-2013 01:03 AM
  11. kkapoorr's Avatar
    The s4 will be a hit no doubt, but build quality is becoming more important these days as specs begin to max out.
    I couldn't agree more.

    HTC ONE X-ViperX 3.3.8
    03-15-2013 01:08 AM
  12. Onemoa's Avatar
    It's not hate it's disappointment. The screen is pentile like the S3's. It's grainy, ect. It's not like the awesome RGB screen on the Note 2.

    That's my only real issue with the S4 and the reason I wouldn't buy one. The style is fine but what's the thing you look at when using you're phone... The display and the fact that they went pentile really sucks. I'm just happy I didn't wait and got a Note 2.

    That's something allot of people are doing now that they know the true specs of the S4. Why get an S4 when you can get the Note 2. Yeah the screen on the S4 is 1080p but it's pentile.

    The fact that 441ppi isn't even needed on a 5" device and the fact that the Note 2's screen is better looking and bigger then the S4's screen is what drives me nuts.

    I'm sure that's what is causing all the Hate. Because people waiting for the S4 are now just going to buy the Note 2. I'm sure some people will be talked into buying the S4 due to sales reps and commission along with all the marketing.

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    03-15-2013 01:28 AM
  13. TBolt's Avatar
    Samsung is the new apple.

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    No, HTC is trying to be the Apple of the Android world. Every flaw the Apple phones have, HTC copies. Locked battery. No SD card slot.

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    03-15-2013 01:32 AM
  14. matt0715's Avatar
    The Galaxy S4 isn't a bad phone.
    I'm not saying its a bad phone, its just not a big improvement. Also, most of the new features are coming to the s3.

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    03-15-2013 01:39 AM
  15. Ry's Avatar
    I'm not saying its a bad phone, its just not a big improvement. Also, most of the new features are coming to the s3.

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    The Galaxy S3 isn't a bad phone either.
    03-15-2013 01:41 AM
  16. matt0715's Avatar
    The Galaxy S3 isn't a bad phone either.
    Haha I see where this is going...

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    03-15-2013 01:50 AM
  17. GMJeff's Avatar
    Not all of the features are coming to the S3, as some of them rely on new sensors and other possible new additions to the phones chipset. I would say most of the features that are software based will see it, yes.

    As for the look of the phone, Samsung knows what it is doing. They introduced the S3 with a different look from the S2. The S4 is as close to the S3 as they want it to be, but with a slightly larger screen. They are building their line with brand recognition. Apple does this by not changing the iphone drastically for years on end.

    They want people to see the design and know if it is a Samsung Galaxy device. This is the reason why the Note phones and tablet as well as the tab line of tablets are all starting to look alike. It is a growing ecosystem. No one will be able to say "Is that an iphone or a galaxy S4?".

    As for the colors, people complained about having black phones for so long, now that they come in colors, people are like "oh my gosh, where is my black phone that we used to have". I just wish they would bring the red versions out first sometimes or at least make them available at launch instead of waiting for christmas or valentine's day.

    The screen is another gripe a lot of people have complained about. Frankly, a pentile screen at 441 ppi seems like a reasonably good screen. I am not going to break out my microscope to count jaggies on the screen instead of enjoying what is in front of me. Take HTC's washed out LCD screen that strains to show deeper black color or brighter colors. And also, as screens get bigger, the amoint of ppi does matter, even for pentile screens as it helps to make the resolution denser to the naked eye. Technically, to coin a Apple word, retina.

    Will this screen see the Note 3, probably not. Unless Wacom can make their digitizers qork on 1080p screens. They work best in the 720p range.

    But people are still going to hate because there is no Apple on the back, or HTC logo, or Moto insignia, etc.

    Galaxy S4 or Note 3 for my next. Decisions, decisions.
    03-15-2013 02:15 AM
  18. Irvgotti's Avatar
    No, HTC is trying to be the Apple of the Android world. Every flaw the Apple phones have, HTC copies. Locked battery. No SD card slot.

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    I think moto phones have locked batteries.. . Nexus 4 the same exact way. It's better that way. My opinion.

    but that not what I meant. Just everyone hated apple just because. Now people are feeling that way about Samsung. Same boring plastic design... And if some features come to the note 2 and s3. What is the point of upgrading when you will eventually get it?.

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    03-15-2013 02:27 AM
  19. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    I was hating on the S4 before it was released but I actually kind of dig it. I like how they fit the bigger screen in basically the same size package as the S3. I still won't get it due to touchwiz. It's really a deal breaker for me and I can't stand having 3rd party launchers or roms. I'm still on the fence about the One. I love the look of it but have never liked sense either. Might just have to wait for the N5.
    03-15-2013 04:24 AM
  20. EVO28312's Avatar
    Hmmm... Poor and outdated design, plastic, wtf pen tile, touch wiz still blows, exynos chip hard to develop for. Should I keep going?
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    03-15-2013 04:42 AM
  21. jcp007's Avatar
    Who buys a smartphone just for the display and the case build materials? Only those that are fans of those brands and value style over performance. The improvements to the internal hardware, user interface, the camera and JB 4.2.2 gives the GS4 the edge in the user experience which is really what counts. It is really impressive how a 5 inch HD display was fit in the same space as its predecessor. Complaints of the GS3 were non HD display and the battery life wasn't great; both aspects were improved. Some will never see the big picture and some will never be happy.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet
    03-15-2013 06:33 AM
  22. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    I agree, but only because of the marketing.

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    Not at all. The phones themselves are great, petty complaints aside.

    Sent from my Nexus 10 using Android Central Forums
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    03-15-2013 08:17 AM
  23. Johnly's Avatar
    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
    Imho....when you get on top, like Apple did, naturally the cultish hatred will ensue. Maybe the force of hate will get so strong that HTC will naturally take number one. Then the minions can gather their clans and the force of hate can shift to HTC.

    Joking aside, the expectations for samsung are far greater than HTC. That is what happens when everyone expects Samsung to keep blowing the doors off the competition.

    The iphone 5 was a joke of an update. Ar least Samsung made more progress in that dept.

    I hate you with a passion you dirty rotten samsung, ewww. I need a shower.
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    03-15-2013 08:38 AM
  24. snookasnoo's Avatar
    I think people have unrealistic expectations for one thing. Not just for this phone but for others. Technology only advances so far and this is arguably the most feature packed device in terms of hardware and software you can buy today.
    However the HTC One has shown a premium build that is close to or equivalent to the iPhone 5 for the first time in an Android device and Samsung has gone with the same plasticky build and look. I think that's part of it.
    FYI people who say the iPhone 5 is the same as the 4 and 4s simply don't know what they are talking about.

    Almost every article about the Galaxy S4 I go to, there seems to be a mob of people attacking the phone and praising the HTC One or Xperia Z. Anyone who posts something positive is bombarded with ridicule. My question is: why so much hate? After all, aren't we are all fans of Android?
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    03-15-2013 08:49 AM
  25. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Everyone? The display is the device for all intents and purposes. People like the feel of quality materials not cheap plasticky devices with flimsy poorly fitting buttons. Makes sense.
    Would you want a car that is cheap and plasticky or one that is well made?
    Agree that fitting the 5 inch display into the existing chassis is nice.



    Who buys a smartphone just for the display and the case build materials? Only those that are fans of those brands and value style over performance. The improvements to the internal hardware, user interface, the camera and JB 4.2.2 gives the GS4 the edge in the user experience which is really what counts. It is really impressive how a 5 inch HD display was fit in the same space as its predecessor. Complaints of the GS3 were non HD display and the battery life wasn't great; both aspects were improved. Some will never see the big picture and some will never be happy.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet
    Etios likes this.
    03-15-2013 08:52 AM
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