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  1. atomic_squid's Avatar
    I love taking pictures and S4 has great quality cam. So it's a yes yes
    The One's camera has consistently been shown to have better results through side by side tests, though this could be partly because the S4 was revealed like two days ago.

    Sent from my One X using Android Central Forums
    03-17-2013 09:45 AM
  2. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    Can we not stop with the cheerleading threads. Uggh. Every thread anymore is a my phone is better than your phone thread. Who cares what anyone else likes?

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
    03-17-2013 09:46 AM
  3. MAXXTX's Avatar
    Im just gonna go buy both and get it over with
    03-17-2013 09:50 AM
  4. JonCBK's Avatar
    How in the world are people saying the S4's camera is better than the One's because it has more megapixels? This is wrong. Megapixels do not determine picture quality! More megapixels does not mean that the camera will be better!
    In fact, more megapixels means smaller pixels, which means less light on the sensor to distribute to each pixel, which means worse low light photos. Biggest complaint for cameras in phones, ability to take low light photos. Putting 13 megs in a phone is by definition going to result in a worse camera than if the manufacturer had spent the same care and effort in an 8 meg camera. Now Samsung makes a good camera and has skills, so let's see how they do. But I guarantee, they could have made a better camera with 8 megs and that going to 13 is just a marketing megapixel war move.
    03-17-2013 09:56 AM
  5. 20blks's Avatar
    Here we go again with the Samsung vs HTC flagship phone battle. Every year HTC makes a phone with "better build quality" while sammy sticks with its "cheap plastic". I'm sure like any other year, the HTC will be 99 bucks after a month or so.. Just look at the One, Vivid etc. Also, I don't see how someone with so much phone knowledge (I assume) could say that sd cards aren't as valuable on android phones as they used to be. I don't have an unlimited data plan and I like to have all my music/videos with me wherever I go. Also, I did a master reset on my phone yesterday. I have approx 40gb of files on my sd card. Simply removing my memory card while doing the factory reset saved all my files. Imagine someone who doesn't have much experience with a smart phone calling att for help with a phone freezing. They have an HTC without removable memory. We all know the tech on the phone will suggest a factory reset. What will happen to their Music/photos/videos after this master reset?
    03-17-2013 10:36 AM
  6. jcp007's Avatar
    I am also growing a bit weary with the "my dog is better than your dog" posts. It is all a matter of personal preference. When I was migrating from the BB 9810 to Android, I test drove the One X and then the GS3. At the time, the GS3 performance seemed better and Nature UX interface seemed more focused on the user experience and was more intuitive to someone not familiar with Android. Sense seemed a bit more clunky and not as intuitive. I am still open to test driving both before make a decision but, based upon what I have seen so far, HTC has put a lot work and more focused with the One instead of having so many variants but they are still playing catch up in terms of focusing more on premium design and materials than the user experience and performance focus instead of superior user experience and performance with build materials and design that aren't really so bad. Not great but not bad. Slap a case like the Defender and the one that makes me more efficient and move throughout the day better wins. In an average work day, the better display and camera are going to make the difference? Buy the one that works best and appeals to you the most. Do your research and test drive both when they are released. Could Samsung have done more to make my choice easier? Sure. It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Again, these are just my thoughts as someone who is still relatively new to Android.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet
    03-17-2013 10:43 AM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    Can we not stop with the cheerleading threads. Uggh. Every thread anymore is a my phone is better than your phone thread. Who cares what anyone else likes?

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
    Yeah. It gets old for sure.

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums.
    03-17-2013 12:10 PM
  8. tobegone's Avatar
    ..and as for the plastic vs metal argument - most are wrapping their phones w/butt ugly cases anyway.. -smh

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Android Central Forums
    20blks and MikeLip like this.
    03-17-2013 12:21 PM
  9. dplane's Avatar
    Yeah. It gets old for sure.

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums.
    While I respect you folks s desire to dampen the amount of controversy on this topic, the same could be said for the holier than thou type comments. This is a tech forum after all and as a result discussion is bound to ensue, considering neither device was released yet we d quickly run out of things to talk about if not for this. As long as the discussion stays on topic and doesn't become personal I fail to see the problem. In fact, its mildly amusing.
    LegalAmerican likes this.
    03-17-2013 12:30 PM
  10. jokout1's Avatar
    i beg to differ.
    So your implying that of the 40 million GS3 owners, 400,000 run ASOP???? I think not!!! I would be surprised if 400000 android users total run ASOP!


    Cheers
    03-17-2013 12:36 PM
  11. chubb's Avatar
    Here we go again with the Samsung vs HTC flagship phone battle. Every year HTC makes a phone with "better build quality" while sammy sticks with its "cheap plastic". I'm sure like any other year, the HTC will be 99 bucks after a month or so.. Just look at the One, Vivid etc. Also, I don't see how someone with so much phone knowledge (I assume) could say that sd cards aren't as valuable on android phones as they used to be. I don't have an unlimited data plan and I like to have all my music/videos with me wherever I go. Also, I did a master reset on my phone yesterday. I have approx 40gb of files on my sd card. Simply removing my memory card while doing the factory reset saved all my files. Imagine someone who doesn't have much experience with a smart phone calling att for help with a phone freezing. They have an HTC without removable memory. We all know the tech on the phone will suggest a factory reset. What will happen to their Music/photos/videos after this master reset?
    You can keep a backup on your computer. And you should because SD cards get corrupted, and if you dont and it does then your screwed.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    03-17-2013 01:33 PM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    While I respect you folks s desire to dampen the amount of controversy on this topic, the same could be said for the holier than thou type comments. This is a tech forum after all and as a result discussion is bound to ensue, considering neither device was released yet we d quickly run out of things to talk about if not for this. As long as the discussion stays on topic and doesn't become personal I fail to see the problem. In fact, its mildly amusing.
    Oh discussion I don't mind.. That's what a forum is for. However this is people saying others opinions are wrong as they scoff at them for not being in agreement with their epicness of choice on what they think is the best phone.

    Discussion is one thing.. Telling someone they are wrong because they like one product vs the other since you think the other product is better.. Yeah..

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums.
    Serial Fordicator likes this.
    03-17-2013 01:44 PM
  13. spawndoodling's Avatar
    I'm not so sure that Sense is better than TouchWiz. Yes, Sense 5 is definitely a leg up from an aesthetic perspective but having seen the HTC One impressions, I can't help but notice that TouchWiz seems to be easier to navigate and more intuitive from the get go.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 on Sprint
    03-17-2013 04:08 PM
  14. MikeLip's Avatar
    I'm not so sure that Sense is better than TouchWiz. Yes, Sense 5 is definitely a leg up from an aesthetic perspective but having seen the HTC One impressions, I can't help but notice that TouchWiz seems to be easier to navigate and more intuitive from the get go.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 on Sprint
    I think it's hard to define "better" in this context. The materials used, yes, from a strictly utilitarian viewpoint - you just beat on the phone and see what happens. But I like Sense better than TouchWiz, and that's more or less a function of how my brain works, which will be different from others. Electonically and mechanically, neither HTC or Samsung are going to give us junk in their headliner phones, so as always this whole argument comes down to a simple question; "Which do you like better?" You're going to get an excellent phone either way. But I'm just a voice in the wilderness - let the flames begin, and loose the dogs of war.
    03-17-2013 04:17 PM
  15. fatboy97's Avatar
    Mines better than yours... no it's not... yes it is... WHO really cares??? Isn't it nice that WE have these types of choices!!!

    I'm very happy to have these types of choice... HTC One, Samsung S4, Motorola X phone, just to name a few. Yes we still have to wait for the X phone, but I'm sure we will see the specs before too long.
    03-17-2013 04:21 PM
  16. Mikesnexus's Avatar
    After a point more mega pixels are bad as the add "noise to the photo.

    Wow... Just wow

    From my device to yours
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    03-17-2013 04:37 PM
  17. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    In fact, more megapixels means smaller pixels, which means less light on the sensor to distribute to each pixel, which means worse low light photos. Biggest complaint for cameras in phones, ability to take low light photos. Putting 13 megs in a phone is by definition going to result in a worse camera than if the manufacturer had spent the same care and effort in an 8 meg camera. Now Samsung makes a good camera and has skills, so let's see how they do. But I guarantee, they could have made a better camera with 8 megs and that going to 13 is just a marketing megapixel war move.
    There's way more than comes into play here, from f-stop to ISO to shutter speeds. So while a greater megapixel count does not equal a better picture, it doesn't equal a worse picture, either.
    03-17-2013 05:10 PM
  18. omniusovermind's Avatar
    I like pie. Apple pie, cherry pie, fanboy pie.

    PS: pure android >>>>> TouchWiz / Sense. Luxury cars my butt. More like a hyundai with lots of options of dubious usefulness.
    TheLibertarian likes this.
    03-17-2013 06:17 PM
  19. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    So your implying that of the 40 million GS3 owners, 400,000 run ASOP???? I think not!!! I would be surprised if 400000 android users total run ASOP!


    Cheers
    Hasn't CM had a couple million installs? Not sure exactly how they calculate that number though.
    03-17-2013 06:42 PM
  20. eyekantbeme's Avatar
    how about removable battery? I don't know if you can remove the battery from the HTC One because you could not for the HTC Evo. If that's the case, I prefer the s4 by a long shot.
    I dont know what you're referring to about not having a removable battery on the HTC EVO-4G. Mine was easily removable without the need for screws or anything like on an Iphone. So then what are you talking about? Your Evo 4G did not have a removable battery slot? I guess, just tell me because mine was easily removable by unclipping a couple clips and taking off the back cover. I'm just curious, that is all. Thanks.
    03-17-2013 06:43 PM
  21. vhew's Avatar
    Here's my 2cents on why I'll likely choose the Galaxy S4 over HTC One. I think the hardware is better for MY purposes.

    I currently have a Galaxy S2 running Cyanogen 10.1, and I am looking for the best phone to get next. My shortlist is the Galaxy S4 32GB international and the HTC One (M7) 64GB.

    I will install Cyanogenmod or some other ROM when I can. This makes the installed software and updates schedule irrelevent.

    BENEFITS OF GALAXY S4
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    note: These are all JUST ASSUMPTIONS until the comparative reviews come out.

    1. BETTER BATTERY LIFE
    - the new AMOLED screen with this PHOLED thing should be more power efficient than the One's SLCD
    - The Exynos 5410 should be more power efficient than the Snapdragon 600 (used by the One and the US Galaxy S4 variant). I do not care for LTE right now, so Exynos is ideal for battery.
    - Larger capacity battery (2600mAh vs. 2300mAh). There is also the option to install a larger capacity battery at the expensive of making the currently thin phone thicker.

    2. DURABILITY
    - Plastic casing. To me this is a feature over the One. Plastic is more robust, replacable, lighter and cheaper than aluminium (or glass). I will have a simple TPU case to absorb the impact from drops. I see no point paying extra for the aluminium whcih I will not touch or notice in everyday use.
    - Gorilla Glass 3. I hate screen protectors, and Gorilla Glass 3 is three times more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 2 (the one used on the One).

    3. RESALE (admittedly not important, but added since it is a differentiator)
    - Replacable battery increases resale dramatically
    - the resale difference between a 16GB, 32GB or 64GB is not huge. It's always more cost efficient to get the cheaper model. I can save money upfront getting the 16GB or 32GB variant of the S4 and add slower memory (microSD) for media when I need it. When I sell, my "loss" on the 16GB/32GB will not be as big as loss on the 64GB version.

    BENEFITS OF HTC ONE
    -------------------
    Things I love about the One, but are not as important as my requirement for battery life and durability:

    A. CAMERA ULTRAPIXEL. HTC's focus on the low light aspect of the camera is very important. Having a low megapixel count, while also being able to get the shot (i.e. low light performance), is perfect for a phone camera due reduced file sizes, which is ideal to store more photos on the phone and to lower network usage. I carry a dedicated prime lens camera and can use that for higher resolution work. I will still use the phone camera for wide angle shots, and other things I want to share quickly. However, I do have my reservations how hard it is for ROMs like Cyanogen to quickly support such a camera.

    B. SOUND: Boomsound is great, but still of limited use. But if I'm on the go, I'll still use headphones for better quality and to not disturb others. When I'm home it'll be of use. I'll be interested in a review of the quality of the headphone amp in this phone vs. the output in the S4.

    C. CALL QUALITY. HTC has done a great job in adding an additional microphone to help with noise-cancellation/adaptive-volume. Unfortunately, I rarely talk on the phone.


    MORE INFO PLEASE
    ----------------

    RECEPTION/ATENNA
    I would like some comparative review on the quality of the reception of these phones. Why does no one mention this nowadays? Reception quality is important for borderline coverage cases and is also related to battery life.
    TomsAndroid and kkapoorr like this.
    03-17-2013 09:07 PM
  22. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Here's my 2cents on why I'll likely choose the Galaxy S2 over HTC One. I think the hardware is better for MY purposes.
    Interesting assessment...
    03-18-2013 02:50 AM
  23. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    **Cough**It's Plastic**Cough**TouchWiz**Cough**

    I better get this flu checked out. Still not a bad looking phone though, but pass.
    03-18-2013 03:47 AM
  24. JasW's Avatar
    Nope. All the points he made apply no matter what you use it for.
    What he posted is absolutely true. MicroSD is dead in android and Samsung has a horrible implentation of it. If you truly have that much music, then you'll also know how frustrating load times on microSD cards can be when they're full.

    Case in point: on my old S3 I had about 30 gigs of music on my SD card. Every single time I went into the music player the lag was ridiculous as the phone tried to read the card and as I scrolled through the library at the same time. It was so bad that I had to actually stop using music on the device.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    I have had absolutely no problem with "load times" or anything else using/swapping out two 32GB SD cards literally full of nothing but music, but then again, I have not been using a Samsung device. So are you saying I'm in for nothing but trouble if I buy an S4 and put all of that music on a single 64GB card?
    03-18-2013 05:46 AM
  25. Cattails_r_Edible's Avatar
    Sammy phones are notorious for borking sd cards! Not to mention that godawful, horrendous looking pentile display!

    Remember what the doormouse said, feed your head!
    03-18-2013 07:19 AM
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