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  1. JHBThree's Avatar
    It's hilarious. The Verge review of the one calls it the "gold-standard" for Android. But the average Android fanboy will still say things like "The Verge is biased (against Android)" or "The Verge loves Apple".
    Yeah I don't get it. Just because they also like the iPhone, surely they must be biased. (Even though the iPhone review said that iOS is stale and boring and you can't do as much as you can with android)
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    03-19-2013 05:26 PM
  2. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Exactly you should know Giz is biased....ANYTHING Android they have something bad to say but when it comes to iPhone its like Oh Praise the Heavens! I stopped reading them a while ago it got annoying
    Cool. Good thing the comparison was between the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 then.

    I know, but my experience with Gizmodo is to make the iPhone look good when its bad, and when it comes to Android, they point out all the bad things
    As for their review, it was somewhat better than their previous ones I will admit
    I don't know why you're forcefully bringing the iPhone into this when the article isn't comparing the S4 to the iPhone. It's comparing the HTC One to the Galaxy S4.

    They're saying that HTC One performed faster than the S4. Benchmarks can say whatever they want, but from videos I've seen and impressions I've read, the S4 is laggy.
    03-19-2013 06:58 PM
  3. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Cool. Good thing the comparison was between the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 then.



    I don't know why you're forcefully bringing the iPhone into this when the article isn't comparing the S4 to the iPhone. It's comparing the HTC One to the Galaxy S4.

    They're saying that HTC One performed faster than the S4. Benchmarks can say whatever they want, but from videos I've seen and impressions I've read, the S4 is laggy.
    I know but I just had to point it out
    I don't consider Giz a fair reviewer anyways for anything
    I also feel they are biased against Samsung after the Samsung v. Apple trial...but thats just me
    03-20-2013 01:56 AM
  4. JHBThree's Avatar
    I know but I just had to point it out
    I don't consider Giz a fair reviewer anyways for anything
    I also feel they are biased against Samsung after the Samsung v. Apple trial...but thats just me
    It is just you. If anything they've been biased AGAINST apple since they blackballed gizmodo from their press events for life. This is also the same gizmodo that posted at least two dozen stories about antennagate in the span of a week to try and force a story out of it, and routinely posts things that bash various apple products or software for no reason.

    I also find it interesting that the only ones that claim Apple bias from a variety of media sources are android fans. Its like they have a chip on their shoulder or an inferiority complex.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
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    03-20-2013 02:47 AM
  5. Overstew's Avatar
    He has a point, the modding community is a very tiny fraction of the entire number of smartphone owners.
    This is such an oblivious statement to make. You have no idea how large the modding community is. For example, take a look at the top free/paid apps. Some of them are apps that require root. This should imply that the modding community is larger than people make it out to be.
    03-20-2013 03:18 AM
  6. jcp007's Avatar
    HTC has a lot riding on the One but supplier issues with the camera are causing delays. The company is also struggling financially so that may be why we don't the same marketing blitz. Great marketing AND great design/performance will win the day which is why the GS4 will win the day.

    Sent From My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet
    03-20-2013 05:04 AM
  7. omniusovermind's Avatar
    This is such an oblivious statement to make. You have no idea how large the modding community is. For example, take a look at the top free/paid apps. Some of them are apps that require root. This should imply that the modding community is larger than people make it out to be.
    You act as though I'm the source instead of the messenger. :rolleyes:
    03-20-2013 05:50 AM
  8. MikeLip's Avatar
    It is just you. If anything they've been biased AGAINST apple since they blackballed gizmodo from their press events for life. This is also the same gizmodo that posted at least two dozen stories about antennagate in the span of a week to try and force a story out of it, and routinely posts things that bash various apple products or software for no reason.

    I also find it interesting that the only ones that claim Apple bias from a variety of media sources are android fans. Its like they have a chip on their shoulder or an inferiority complex.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    Now you guys are arguing about what Gizmodo thinks? Who cares? Gizmodo is a source of never ending, poorly researched and poorly written articles by people who never, ever fact check (or even proof-read) in their anxiety to push out "edgy and cool" articles and who are, in reality, barely qualified to push a broom. As soon as anyone cites Gizmodo as a source they lose all credibility. It doesn't matter what they like and what they report.
    03-20-2013 07:05 AM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    This is such an oblivious statement to make. You have no idea how large the modding community is. For example, take a look at the top free/paid apps. Some of them are apps that require root. This should imply that the modding community is larger than people make it out to be.
    Oblivious? More like probably spot on.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    03-20-2013 11:22 AM
  10. Overstew's Avatar
    Oblivious? More like probably spot on.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    Your argument doesn't have anything to back up your claims. Manufacturers have even resorted to locking boot loaders due to the increase in nodded devices. Obviously it's enough for manufacturers to notice.
    03-20-2013 02:46 PM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    Your argument doesn't have anything to back up your claims. Manufacturers have even resorted to locking boot loaders due to the increase in nodded devices. Obviously it's enough for manufacturers to notice.
    Going by my own experiences, the modders are a definite minority.

    If you can pull Google Play numbers, let me pull CyanogenMod installs. Arguably the most popular third-party ROM right?

    Compare their userbase with how many Android devices are getting activated daily. Heck, quadruple the CyanogenMod userbase just to be nice.

    Minority.


    Or -

    Say a family of 5 all have Android phones. Dad probably doesn't root. Mom doesn't either. The kids? Maybe 1 of them does. Or maybe none do.

    Minority.
    03-20-2013 02:57 PM
  12. Johnly's Avatar
    So that is 25% quite a force.

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
    03-20-2013 03:00 PM
  13. MikeLip's Avatar
    Simple answer here, guys. Get them both.

    I'm gonna tell you straight up - I love Samsung phones. But I love the looks and specs of the HTC. I am sure the Samsung is just as technically impressive but the HTC is the first phone I've ever said "wow, that's pretty." Except to my BB9930. I am going to have a REAL hard time choosing. I suspect I may just go with the Z10, just for something different.
    03-20-2013 05:39 PM
  14. phonejunky's Avatar
    I think real world use after a couple months will reveal the true winner. I also don't believe the HTC One doesn't have a notification system.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    03-20-2013 06:05 PM
  15. Overstew's Avatar
    Going by my own experiences, the modders are a definite minority.

    If you can pull Google Play numbers, let me pull CyanogenMod installs. Arguably the most popular third-party ROM right?

    Compare their userbase with how many Android devices are getting activated daily. Heck, quadruple the CyanogenMod userbase just to be nice.

    Minority.


    Or -

    Say a family of 5 all have Android phones. Dad probably doesn't root. Mom doesn't either. The kids? Maybe 1 of them does. Or maybe none do.

    Minority.
    I've never once mentioned ratios. I'm simply going by numbers. Yes, we're a minority of overall users, but this group is still pretty big. That's my point.
    03-20-2013 07:26 PM
  16. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    I think real world use after a couple months will reveal the true winner. I also don't believe the HTC One doesn't have a notification system.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    The winner is going to vary from person to person, the true winner is the consumer for getting the phone they want. And that just sounds corny but oh well. :P

    And honestly, I've seen way worse sites than Gizmodo when it comes to bias, but I only read reviews from Mobile Nations anyway nowadays so it doesn't matter.
    03-20-2013 07:58 PM
  17. DroidXcon's Avatar
    Why is everything All or nothing? Is GS4 light years above the competition? NOPE. Will it be amongst the best devices in the market? YUP!!!
    Is HTC one awesome? YUP!!! will i get it ? NOPE
    Does anyone give a Sh#^ what i get? NOPE!
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    03-20-2013 08:02 PM
  18. phonejunky's Avatar
    Lol all very true.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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    03-20-2013 08:37 PM
  19. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Simple answer here, guys. Get them both.

    I'm gonna tell you straight up - I love Samsung phones. But I love the looks and specs of the HTC. I am sure the Samsung is just as technically impressive but the HTC is the first phone I've ever said "wow, that's pretty." Except to my BB9930. I am going to have a REAL hard time choosing. I suspect I may just go with the Z10, just for something different.
    I'm seriously toying with that idea. The BB10 OS itself is optimized to run the UI as smoothly as a quad core android but does it with half the specs, and the buttonless swipe gesture UI is a joy of a user experience (to me). What's holding me back is the god awful turn by turn navigation. I use that a lot. There's a few other shortcomings as an early adopter phone as well but none of those were deal breakers for me. Nav is. I'm also hesitant to try anything outside of Google or ios because new and amazing apps always hit there first, and often never make it anywhere else. For example a Canadian developer at UofT is currently working on a keyboard app that they claim will be even better than SwiftKey. Android and iOS only.
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    03-20-2013 09:52 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    I've never once mentioned ratios. I'm simply going by numbers. Yes, we're a minority of overall users, but this group is still pretty big. That's my point.
    Any number can be big. Relevance to the whole matters though.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    03-20-2013 09:53 PM
  21. epicness4G's Avatar
    I'm seriously toying with that idea. The BB10 OS itself is optimized to run the UI as smoothly as a quad core android but does it with half the specs, and the buttonless swipe gesture UI is a joy of a user experience (to me). What's holding me back is the god awful turn by turn navigation. I use that a lot. There's a few other shortcomings as an early adopter phone as well but none of those were deal breakers for me. Nav is. I'm also hesitant to try anything outside of Google or ios because new and amazing apps always hit there first, and often never make it anywhere else. For example a Canadian developer at UofT is currently working on a keyboard app that they claim will be even better than SwiftKey. Android and iOS only.
    Don't do it. Blackberry sent me one and it disappoints. Oh and if you hate plastic feel of phones. This one is made of plastic lol

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    03-20-2013 10:26 PM
  22. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Don't do it. Blackberry sent me one and it disappoints. Oh and if you hate plastic feel of phones. This one is made of plastic lol

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    lol yep I know. But although a very few number people refuse to acknowledge a difference, there's things you can do with modern plastics to make some feel and look much nicer than others. Those cost the manufacturer more money to make though so some will do it while others won't. How did your Z10 disappoint you? I mean besides the obvious smaller app selection.
    03-20-2013 11:00 PM
  23. epicness4G's Avatar
    lol yep I know. But although a very few number people refuse to acknowledge a difference, there's things you can do with modern plastics to make some feel and look much nicer than others. Those cost the manufacturer more money to make though so some will do it while others won't. How did your Z10 disappoint you? I mean besides the obvious smaller app selection.
    Although intuitive enough, the gestures get old. It feels like your device is too open and out there for people to see. All other downloaded apps feel like they're not made for the phone. The native ones have a natural look to it though. It just looks like an iphone lol they're still far far away from competition. The battery life isn't great either, I had to charge in the middle of the day with moderate use. I believe it only has an 1800mah battery? That's so 2011. Lol but that's just my two cents. I was once an ios fan because of the app selection. But android has caught up and surpassed, anything else just seems old and outdated. Oh and btw I'm one to not care about plastic on the phone, it just seems like everyone just likes to point out any negative things about any device. Haters gonna hate is the saying lol.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    03-20-2013 11:11 PM
  24. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Although intuitive enough, the gestures get old. It feels like your device is too open and out there for people to see. All other downloaded apps feel like they're not made for the phone. The native ones have a natural look to it though. It just looks like an iphone lol they're still far far away from competition. The battery life isn't great either, I had to charge in the middle of the day with moderate use. I believe it only has an 1800mah battery? That's so 2011. Lol but that's just my two cents. I was once an ios fan because of the app selection. But android has caught up and surpassed, anything else just seems old and outdated. Oh and btw I'm one to not care about plastic on the phone, it just seems like everyone just likes to point out any negative things about any device. Haters gonna hate is the saying lol.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    ok thanks for the heads-up
    03-20-2013 11:18 PM
  25. epicness4G's Avatar
    Htc one is currently the best Dual core smartphone. It has so many pros compared to Galaxy S4. Like faster processor, Better processor, better performence, Sharper Display, Aluminium unibody, very slick design, Straight ICS out of the box, better camera, better video recording.
    Galaxy S4 has a little number of pros. Like expandable memory. But I personaly think Htc One is better than Galaxy S4.

    One place for all latest Technology News and updates - TechnoBar
    Umm the HTC one is a quad core phone not dual core.
    Bot phones use the same processor although the s4 is clocked at 1.9 instead of 1.7 on the one, both will come with JELLYBEAN out of the box. Not ICS. The s4 will come with 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 on the HTC one. I'm assuming you're trolling but all your points are way off..

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
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    03-23-2013 11:50 PM
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