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  1. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Last year with the galaxy S III the us version came with a dual core processor. International version had quad. We were told because the quad core doesn't work with LTE.

    Then the Korean market gets the phone and guess what? LTE works and they also got the 2 gb ram. The ONLY version that should have been released.

    Now the international version gets 8 CORES! Now we get 4.

    Why didn't they give us the Octacore?

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    03-16-2013 08:44 PM
  2. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more with you. And certain people praise the Qualcomm 600 chip over the Exynos octa-chip. What I want is for someone to explain to me why the Galaxy Note 2's Exynos chip supports US LTE bands and a more powerful/newer chip cannot???
    03-16-2013 08:51 PM
  3. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    They could have least given us the processor in the note 2. I wonder why they have to go snapdragon for that now that they have their own processor working fine on US LTE bands.

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    03-16-2013 10:09 PM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    They could have least given us the processor in the note 2. I wonder why they have to go snapdragon for that now that they have their own processor working fine on US LTE bands.

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    Because the Exynos 4 Quad is orders of magnitude slower than the Octa or S600
    03-16-2013 10:36 PM
  5. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more with you. And certain people praise the Qualcomm 600 chip over the Exynos octa-chip. What I want is for someone to explain to me why the Galaxy Note 2's Exynos chip supports US LTE bands and a more powerful/newer chip cannot???
    As I stated in another thread...probably a lot to do with physical size. Octa isn't a small chip.
    03-16-2013 10:37 PM
  6. return_0's Avatar
    Last year with the galaxy S III the us version came with a dual core processor. International version had quad. We were told because the quad core doesn't work with LTE.

    Then the Korean market gets the phone and guess what? LTE works and they also got the 2 gb ram. The ONLY version that should have been released.

    Now the international version gets 8 CORES! Now we get 4.

    Why didn't they give us the Octacore?

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    FFS how many times does it have to be said that the number of cores aren't everything?

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    03-16-2013 10:49 PM
  7. planoman's Avatar
    Hopefully by the time the Note 3 gets here in the USA, they will have LTE for the Exynos Octa! Sweet!
    03-16-2013 11:17 PM
  8. NoYankees44's Avatar
    It also has to do with battery life and radio power. Phones in the us have to connect to fewer towers farther away than most of the rest of the world. This means the radio pulls more power all the time and could potentially causes issues with battery life and even chip set.

    I am assuming that the octo is a power drain when the big cores are used and especially when it is in transition between the 2 sets.

    Sent from my SCH-I535
    03-17-2013 12:26 AM
  9. bdog421's Avatar
    Last year with the Galaxy S3 the us version came with a dual core processor. International version had quad. We were told because the quad core doesn't work with LTE.

    Then the Korean market gets the phone and guess what? LTE works and they also got the 2 gb ram. The ONLY version that should have been released.

    Now the international version gets 8 CORES! Now we get 4.

    Why didn't they give us the Octacore?

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the Galaxy S3 unfortunately on T-Mobile
    It's my understanding, samsung was suffering a shortage of lte chips to supply all world markets with the exynos4 and had to use qualcomms chip, as it has all modems, radios and whatnot built in. Also it was the only other comparable processor available for samsung to meet the needs of the U.S. market.

    As far as the 8 cores thingy goes, the exynos5 octa is actually 2 quad cores on 1 chip, one for horse power and the other for efficiency when doing lighter tasks. Not sure what the reason for the U.S. not getting it this time is. My guess is one of 2 things, a shortage of lte chips again or they simply can't pop enough exynos5 chips off the die to meet the U.S. launch date. This could also be true for the exynos4, it showed up later in 2012 with the note2 and the demand for the note2 was far smaller than the s3.

    Don't be too upset just yet, as we know next nothing of how it will hold up against the qualcomm 600. I would bet on a bit better battery life in the least, with similar performance overall.

    Keep that shotgun on safety till we know they skimped. There will be plenty of people reviewing the two.

    My question to those who would rather have the exynos5 over the qualcomm. Would you rather wait another 3 or so months after launch or just take the qualcomm chip to get it sooner?
    03-17-2013 07:02 AM
  10. anon5664829's Avatar
    Last year with the galaxy S III the us version came with a dual core processor. International version had quad. We were told because the quad core doesn't work with LTE.

    Then the Korean market gets the phone and guess what? LTE works and they also got the 2 gb ram. The ONLY version that should have been released.

    Now the international version gets 8 CORES! Now we get 4.

    Why didn't they give us the Octacore?

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    Dude you don't freaking need 8 cores in a phone, besides its not a true 8 core CPU because it uses ARM's big.LITTLE tech so effectively its two quads, but they dont run simultaneously either.
    03-17-2013 03:38 PM
  11. anon5664829's Avatar
    FFS how many times does it have to be said that the number of cores aren't everything?

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    And besides its not true 8 cores either, it uses ARM's big.LITTLE technology which makes this exynos octo effectively 2 quads that CANNOT simultaneously run together, therefore not true 8 cores. besides specs are not everything optimisation is key.
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    03-17-2013 03:41 PM
  12. return_0's Avatar
    And besides its not true 8 cores either, it uses ARM's big.LITTLE technology which makes this exynos octo effectively 2 quads that CANNOT simultaneously run together, therefore not true 8 cores. besides specs are not everything optimisation is key.
    Exactly. I just wanted to make my point in a simple sentence

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    03-17-2013 03:52 PM
  13. anon5664829's Avatar
    Exactly. I just wanted to make my point in a simple sentence

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Samsung is doing the worst thing ever, making consumers believe that more is better and the higher the numbers the better which is utter bull****
    03-17-2013 03:59 PM
  14. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Dude you don't freaking need 8 cores in a phone, besides its not a true 8 core CPU because it uses ARM's big.LITTLE tech so effectively its two quads, but they dont run simultaneously either.
    Yeah i know, but why change the processor is the first place

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    03-17-2013 06:14 PM
  15. gotta have it android's Avatar
    That's what really pisses me off
    I couldn't agree more with you. And certain people praise the Qualcomm 600 chip over the Exynos octa-chip. What I want is for someone to explain to me why the Galaxy Note 2's Exynos chip supports US LTE bands and a more powerful/newer chip cannot???
    03-17-2013 06:58 PM
  16. donm527#IM's Avatar
    it may be true that the 8 core is not gonna be that much better than the S600... it's just the fact that they release the S4 and make the Octa sound like its their best chip... their latest and greatest on their best phone... then you find out you get the 'other' chip because you're american.

    wtf? lol. The US should get all the best hardware!! Do what HTC does... delay european launch to make sure we americans have supply. HTC will get my business over Samsung!!

    same as last year... who wants a dual core when 'over there' they get the quad.



    And besides its not true 8 cores either, it uses ARM's big.LITTLE technology which makes this exynos octo effectively 2 quads that CANNOT simultaneously run together, therefore not true 8 cores. besides specs are not everything optimisation is key.
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    03-17-2013 07:04 PM
  17. anon5664829's Avatar
    it may be true that the 8 core is not gonna be that much better than the S600... it's just the fact that they release the S4 and make the Octa sound like its their best chip... their latest and greatest on their best phone... then you find out you get the 'other' chip because you're american.

    wtf? lol. The US should get all the best hardware!! Do what HTC does... delay european launch to make sure we americans have supply. HTC will get my business over Samsung!!

    same as last year... who wants a dual core when 'over there' they get the quad.

    I hope you are joking.......
    03-17-2013 07:14 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Spec war!

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    03-17-2013 07:18 PM
  19. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    Dude you don't freaking need 8 cores in a phone, besides its not a true 8 core CPU because it uses ARM's big.LITTLE tech so effectively its two quads, but they dont run simultaneously either.
    Running together would defeat the purpose behind the chip to save battery life. Besides there's plenty of things we don't need on a phone but every OEM does it because they can.


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    03-17-2013 07:30 PM
  20. smooth3006's Avatar
    Because the Exynos 4 Quad is orders of magnitude slower than the Octa or S600
    Oh funny because i see no lag on my note 2. But i sure did on phils s4 review.
    03-17-2013 08:52 PM
  21. return_0's Avatar
    Oh funny because i see no lag on my note 2. But i sure did on phils s4 review.
    Yeah, because that was a finalized product an not a pre-production unit...

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    03-17-2013 08:55 PM
  22. smooth3006's Avatar
    Yeah, because that was a finalized product an not a pre-production unit...

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Im betting the lag will still be there.
    03-17-2013 09:10 PM
  23. anon5664829's Avatar
    Running together would defeat the purpose behind the chip to save battery life. Besides there's plenty of things we don't need on a phone but every OEM does it because they can.


    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    So they shouldn't market it as a 8 core phone.
    03-17-2013 09:38 PM
  24. spawndoodling's Avatar
    Not an expert on this by any means, but does it have to do with the structure of the US market?

    I have a ton of family overseas and they say the international market is a far different ballgame: phones are not subsidized, they're offered for full price, and carriers have less power in negotiating with manufacturers. International consumers are going to pay the full price for phones, somewhere near $650 I'm guessing for the 8-core version.

    But here in the US, it appears to be much different. I have an inkling bigwig carriers like AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint are not so hot about subsidizing an even more expensive device, especially one they've consistently discounted to drive in more customers (e.g. Sprint selling GS3s for $50 over the Thanksgiving holiday, etc.). While the model of downgrading specs for international and domestic versions isn't the business model of everyone, I can see how Samsung may use it to its advantage.

    Carriers can't subsidize the iPhone but can subsidize its biggest competitor, which also happens to be cheaper, driving in tons of customers who are tied to monthly fees for two years - where carriers really make their money (all without taking as big of a hit as they would with more expensive options). Samsung thus establishes a better working relationship with carriers, bringing their phones to more customers than before and getting even more prime marketing attention versus the iPhone (exemplary in the influx of marketing and promos Sprint did for the GS3).

    Again, this depends on a ton of stuff well beyond my knowledge, but it's how I've seen it so far...
    03-17-2013 09:59 PM
  25. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    So they shouldn't market it as a 8 core phone.
    While technically it's 4+4 but Octa-Core sounds much better and still accurate because there are a total of 8 cores. Last I checked it was outright stated that one Quad core chip is for power and the other is for common tasks that doesn't need extra power. So they can market it as an 8 core phone since it has 8 cores. Nothing said Samsung has to have all 8 on 1 chip or use all 8 just for power to call it an Octa-Core.

    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    03-17-2013 10:04 PM
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