03-25-2013 10:16 AM
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  1. Ry's Avatar
    I was expecting something entirely different than the s3. I didnt think Samsung was gonna go all Apple on us.

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    With how much Samsung has "copied" Apple in the past, I think more people expected Samsung to "Apple" us.
    Aquila likes this.
    03-20-2013 11:58 AM
  2. crester's Avatar
    I don't know why people are disappointed... they let their own thoughts run wild and are disappointed when Samsung doesn't match those thoughts?

    Samsung didn't tell anybody to expect the Galaxy S4 would drive you to work in the mornings and cook you dinner... so I don't see how you can blame the phone for not meeting your expectations. If anything you should be hard on yourself for not being realistic.
    Spencerdl, Ry, met.watts and 2 others like this.
    03-20-2013 12:26 PM
  3. Spencerdl's Avatar
    If its not broke, don't fix it just tweek it, and ride the MONEY wave (just made that up )........the SG4 will make a lot of money.......PERIOD
    03-20-2013 12:38 PM
  4. Chosen414's Avatar
    you have to remember, WE were the ones creating the hype, NOT samsung. we cant blame samsung because we searched and speculated for months about a product they were keeping secret.

    i still hold to the idea that samsung went the next logical step in a series, the galaxy line... they never said (to my knowledge) that they were working on something other than a galaxy phone.

    my note2 looks like a bigger galaxy SIII, but thats ok.. because its in the galaxy line of phones
    Granted we the people played the Hype up, Samsung definitely didnt help with its advertising as the next big thing, because its not the next big thing, its just the next thing. GS4, same as GS3, more features, minimal increase in screen. Im not mad at em, frankly i could care less what the GS4 looks like, it has touchwiz on it, but for you guys to say samsung had nothing to do with the hype is like saying the Bank has nothing to do with money. its laughable.
    03-20-2013 01:00 PM
  5. Ry's Avatar
    Granted we the people played the Hype up, Samsung definitely didnt help with its advertising as the next big thing, because its not the next big thing, its just the next thing. GS4, same as GS3, more features, minimal increase in screen. Im not mad at em, frankly i could care less what the GS4 looks like, it has touchwiz on it, but for you guys to say samsung had nothing to do with the hype is like saying the Bank has nothing to do with money. its laughable.
    Regardless of the product that is eventually announced/release, do you expect Samsung to not call their next "the next big thing"? lol.
    03-20-2013 01:26 PM
  6. TBoltJ's Avatar
    I'm not so sure that the S4 was a deal breaker but I think to many it was a let down... Many had high expectations....

    My personal thoughts is were going to see current and future devices over the next 6 months maybe even a year or more lean more towards software upgrades and improvements. Hardware will take more of a backseat and we will see OEMs concentrate more on redefining and tweaking their UI's around Android.
    I agree completely. As a programmer myself I know I would have been fired 100 times over if I put into production buggy, non working software like these companies do. I had the HTC Thunderbolt, advertised for its ground breaking 8 mb camera and its video, but it shipped without the ability to record sound with the video, WTF? Who tested that out and signed off on it? You can make the hardware as fast as you like but if the software doesnt work its not that fast is it?
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    03-20-2013 01:41 PM
  7. Chosen414's Avatar
    Regardless of the product that is eventually announced/release, do you expect Samsung to not call their next "the next big thing"? lol.
    But thats exactly my point....you cant just blame the consumer solely.....blame also has to fall on OEMs.....we expect to much, and they dont deliver enough....it's a never ending cycle.
    03-20-2013 01:43 PM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    But thats exactly my point....you cant just blame the consumer solely.....blame also has to fall on OEMs.....we expect to much, and they dont deliver enough....it's a never ending cycle.
    You = a minor bump from Samsung's last big thing can't possibly be the next big thing.
    Samsung = we updated our best-selling flagship device, last year's next big thing, to make it bigger and better. here's our next big thing.

    Caught up in marketing. lol.
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    03-20-2013 01:46 PM
  9. lou61166's Avatar
    If its not broke, don't fix it just tweek it, and ride the MONEY wave (just made that up )........the SG4 will make a lot of money.......PERIOD
    so that makes the S4 the best phone available,and everyone should join the herd, i could care less how much Samsung makes,
    03-20-2013 03:00 PM
  10. crester's Avatar
    Granted we the people played the Hype up, Samsung definitely didnt help with its advertising as the next big thing, because its not the next big thing, its just the next thing. GS4, same as GS3, more features, minimal increase in screen. Im not mad at em, frankly i could care less what the GS4 looks like, it has touchwiz on it, but for you guys to say samsung had nothing to do with the hype is like saying the Bank has nothing to do with money. its laughable.
    "The Next Big Thing" is just a slogan... you can't start having some crazy expectations just because the company has that slogan.

    BMW's slogan is "The Ultimate Driving Machine"... if another car happens to be better... or it doesn't meet some extreme fantasy of yours... are you going to sue BMW???
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    03-20-2013 03:05 PM
  11. crester's Avatar
    But thats exactly my point....you cant just blame the consumer solely.....blame also has to fall on OEMs.....we expect to much, and they dont deliver enough....it's a never ending cycle.
    Naw... the blame does fall on the people who expected Samsung to do a bunch of crazy things. Samsung delivered a solid phone that will serve the general public well... and that's all that matters.
    bp3dots, met.watts, alhc78 and 1 others like this.
    03-20-2013 03:06 PM
  12. GrooveRite's Avatar
    You'd want the speakers on the front when you're watching video without headphones. In that situation you lose a lot of sound from the speakers being on the back.
    I don't know about you but I ALWAYS watch video with headphones. Especially when you're out in public. Besides, the quality of sound is much more superb with headsets on than the puny speakers on the phone.
    03-20-2013 03:08 PM
  13. goelz83's Avatar
    It sounds like you all are getting caught up in a game of semantics. The "next big thing" could be taken as meaning the NEXT thing that is really big. You can't say that the GS4 doesn't have a big screen. There are hardly any phones that have a screen that is larger than the GS4 screen.

    That's how I took it anyway. I also think that many people are getting worked up over nothing. If you don't like the GS4 or it's not a big enough improvement, don't buy it. Samsung is going to sell millions no matter if anyone on this forum buys it or not.
    Ry, cinnamin and Jude526 like this.
    03-20-2013 04:27 PM
  14. Paul627g's Avatar
    I didnt think Samsung was gonna go all Apple on us.
    I've heard this same line time and time again now about the S4. This is far from true. Sure they may have grabbed a few pages out of the Apple playbook but thats true in any business venture. Whatever works, works .... Android OEM's and their designs/ideas are still far from Apple.
    Johnly and met.watts like this.
    03-20-2013 04:57 PM
  15. russel5150's Avatar
    Granted we the people played the Hype up, Samsung definitely didnt help with its advertising as the next big thing, because its not the next big thing, its just the next thing. GS4, same as GS3, more features, minimal increase in screen. Im not mad at em, frankly i could care less what the GS4 looks like, it has touchwiz on it, but for you guys to say samsung had nothing to do with the hype is like saying the Bank has nothing to do with money. its laughable.
    Of course they are going to market it as the next big thing, what company in their right mind markets their new product as " hey look this is pretty decent!"

    Considering the galaxy line boast being bigger than the iphone, it is the next "big" thing.


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    03-20-2013 05:19 PM
  16. anon5664829's Avatar
    I disagree there. I found the S4 disappointing, when it could have easily met or exceeded my expectations.

    1. Build materials and quality. Having used the Xperia Z and HTC One, they absolutely blow the S3 out of the water, and will blow the S4 out of the water. There is no reason why Samsung couldn't have gone with a premium material for the phone build. Sony and HTC seemed to have put in the effort to make an excellently designed/manufactured device, Samsung just rehashed their materials/design. People will want to say it's because of the removable back - there are phones that are made of metal and have removable backs, hell Samsung made one (Wave), so that excuse is out the door. Having owned an S3 and removing the back a few times, I started noticing cracks on the plastic which is not comforting at all.

    Samsung have more money than Sony and HTC put together. Absolutely no excuse why they couldn't have made a premium feeling phone.

    2. Screen. I know AMOLED is their thing and the colours are highly saturated, but I personally prefer the LCD3 screen in the One and even the LCD in the Sony screen. Given that LCD screens have more accurately calibrated colours, better battery life while web browsing, can get much brighter (which greatly helps sunlight visibility, especially in Australia) and less prone to burn in - I would have preferred a great LCD display over AMOLED.

    3. Legacy button layout. The physical home button and 2 capacitive buttons were fine and dandy with the Galaxy S and S2, but now times have changed and I think Samsung should really focus on pushing tech forward with adopting the stock on-screen button layout of Android now.

    4. Performance. I have concerns about the performance of the phone. Android Central had a hands on, which showed laggy screen swiping, GSM arena had laggy screen swiping and Gizmodo's impressions said that the HTC One was faster than the Galaxy S4 in every context. Could be due to early software/hardware, but that doesn't sound good at all for a high-end Android phone.

    5. Samsung's direction. Watching the abysmal S4 presentation, I feel like Samsung is more focused on a phone store experience rather than a real-world phone experience. The phone is packed to the gills with gimmicks and it seems more designed for a customer to be wowed by all these 'features' at a phone store then them actually being used outside of one. It seems they're only focused on that initial wow factor to grab the sale. I had the S3 and things like tap-to-top and smart stay didn't even work properly for me, let alone be of any use.

    These are just my opinions, and I know not everyone will share them, but they are the biggest issues I had with the S4. As such, I'm not interested in getting one as competitors have more attractive products to me.

    On a side note, I find it hilarious that Samsung had commercials mocking Apple for using the same design with the iPhone 4S "If it looks the same, how will anyone know I upgraded?", when Samsung have essentially done exactly that:

    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18hh...g/original.jpg
    I love your pwnage style.
    and to the OP the iPhone is not bad
    03-20-2013 07:39 PM
  17. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    I was expecting something entirely different than the s3. I didnt think Samsung was gonna go all Apple on us.

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    They did more from the S3 to the S4 than Apple has done since they changed the shape of the iPhone when the iPhone 4 came out. The only area they "pulled an Apple" was in the hardware and honestly I see nothing wrong with the hardware, how can you complain about a quad-core processor? And apparently it runs perfectly well with what it has.

    Some people just have expectations that are borderline fever dreams. The S4 so far has definitely met mine.
    03-20-2013 07:44 PM
  18. anon5664829's Avatar
    I think people have set expectations too high.

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    They will take a lot of backlash for hyping up this phone, Apple doesn't hype their phone and that is smart.
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    03-20-2013 07:44 PM
  19. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    They will take a lot of backlash for hyping up this phone, Apple doesn't hype their phone and that is smart.
    The people created way more hype than Samsung did, with all the "What do you think it'll have?" topics and discussions and then expecting them to give the S4 the ability to ressurect the dead and then complain that it didn't meet their expectations and consider it a disappointment just cause of that. [sarcasm]And no Apple has never made their phones out to look like they're the greatest thing ever. Not once. XD [/sarcasm]
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    03-20-2013 07:48 PM
  20. DroidXcon's Avatar
    They will take a lot of backlash for hyping up this phone, Apple doesn't hype their phone and that is smart.
    lol awesome
    03-20-2013 07:49 PM
  21. anon5664829's Avatar
    They did more from the S3 to the S4 than Apple has done since they changed the shape of the iPhone when the iPhone 4 came out. The only area they "pulled an Apple" was in the hardware and honestly I see nothing wrong with the hardware, how can you complain about a quad-core processor? And apparently it runs perfectly well with what it has.
    I beg to differ. the 3GS to 4 was a humungous upgrade the 4S to 5 was a huge upgrade. I don't understand why Apple have to be bought up every ******* time.
    03-20-2013 07:49 PM
  22. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    I beg to differ. the 3GS to 4 was a humungous upgrade the 4S to 5 was a huge upgrade. I don't understand why Apple have to be bought up every ******* time.
    Cause you brought them up first? The biggest change to the 4 was the design and I admit I love that they did that, it looked soooooo much better. The 4S to 5, not so much they just added stuff they should have added 2 years ago to stay relevant, and they used that as the reason to get the iPhone 5 which made it look outdated compared to everything else.

    Though if you look at it from the viewpoint of an Apple fan who had a 4S, then yeah the 5 was a nice upgrade.
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    03-20-2013 07:52 PM
  23. croppz's Avatar
    They did more from the S3 to the S4 than Apple has done since they changed the shape of the iPhone when the iPhone 4 came out. The only area they "pulled an Apple" was in the hardware and honestly I see nothing wrong with the hardware, how can you complain about a quad-core processor? And apparently it runs perfectly well with what it has.

    Some people just have expectations that are borderline fever dreams. The S4 so far has definitely met mine.
    Just curious, where in my post did I say I was unhappy with quadcore?

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    03-20-2013 07:53 PM
  24. anon5664829's Avatar
    Cause you brought them up first? The biggest change to the 4 was the design and I admit I love that they did that, it looked soooooo much better. The 4S to 5, not so much they just added stuff they should have added 2 years ago to stay relevant, and they used that as the reason to get the iPhone 5 which made it look outdated compared to everything else.

    Though if you look at it from the viewpoint of an Apple fan who had a 4S, then yeah the 5 was a nice upgrade.
    CROPZZ bought apple up first.
    03-20-2013 07:55 PM
  25. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Just curious, where in my post did I say I was unhappy with quadcore?

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    Where in my posts did I say that that part was directed at you? That was a rhetorical question.
    03-20-2013 07:55 PM
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