04-15-2013 06:06 PM
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  1. Calidoc's Avatar
    I'm coming from iPhone world and was confused when I read the S4 won't have Google Wallet. Why not? Will it get it at some point? Is there an equivalent alternative or what? I was looking forward to GW after 5 years of iPhones and didn't realize a premium Android phone would be without this feature. I assumed all Androids had it standard.
    04-08-2013 04:48 PM
  2. lafester's Avatar
    04-08-2013 04:58 PM
  3. Suda's Avatar
    I don't believe any phone comes with it installed, well at least mine didn't. AT&T phones don't support Google Wallet, because AT&T would rather you use their version of the wallet. You're going to have to use Isis wallet.
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    04-08-2013 05:13 PM
  4. Calidoc's Avatar
    I don't believe any phone comes with it installed, well at least mine didn't. AT&T phones don't support Google Wallet, because AT&T would rather you use their version of the wallet. You're going to have to use Isis wallet.
    So since I have AT&T means I can't use GW, flat out?
    04-08-2013 05:23 PM
  5. Suda's Avatar
    So since I have AT&T means I can't use GW, flat out?
    Pretty much, unless you had an unlocked phone and put it on AT&T. But I don't think the use of Google Wallet alone is worth paying $600+ for an unlocked phone.
    04-08-2013 05:28 PM
  6. Raptor007's Avatar
    But if we root our AT&T phones, won't it work via side loading, or do we need to load a custom ROM that strips out the AT&T garbage and puts in the right radio's.
    04-08-2013 05:46 PM
  7. Suda's Avatar
    I honestly have no idea about what rooting it would do, I don't want to give you any or anyone else any false information. All I know is AT&T has blocked it. But I'd imagine there would be some way around that block if you rooted the phone. But still, having to do that just to use an app that's in the play store is annoying.
    04-08-2013 06:03 PM
  8. planoman's Avatar
    The only phones that have Google Wallet working are the Nexus phones & tablets and some of the Sprint line of phones. ATT, Verizon and T Mobile are all members of a competing NFC payment system called ISIS. These carriers have Google Wallet locked down and you cannot use it on their network or phones without extensive mods to your NFC phone, including rooting and changing some lines of code in the phone to accept Google Wallet with the phones NFC system.

    I use Google Wallet some on my Nexus 4 and it is great. I see the terminals expanding to several new places since January of this year. I wish ATT would allow some choice and allow us to pick the NFC payment system that we like best instead of trying to force us to use their system. Like they do not get enough of our money. They are testing ISIS in Austin and Salt Lake City and it takes a special SIM card with a secure element to make it work. I have passed on using it as I switch my SIM between my Note 2 and Nexus 4. I will never use it as long as ATT tries to remove my choice and force me to use their system (end rant).
    04-08-2013 06:48 PM
  9. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    I don't believe any phone comes with it installed, well at least mine didn't. AT&T phones don't support Google Wallet, because AT&T would rather you use their version of the wallet. You're going to have to use Isis wallet.
    Another benefit of getting an Unlocked phone! AT&T and carriers prevent full user experience
    Aquila likes this.
    04-08-2013 06:57 PM
  10. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    So since I have AT&T means I can't use GW, flat out?
    This is AT&T (and the other carriers) version, its called ISIS...only God knows when it will be released to more of the public

    ISIS
    https://www.paywithisis.com/
    04-08-2013 06:59 PM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    The only phones that have Google Wallet working are the Nexus phones & tablets and some of the Sprint line of phones. ATT, Verizon and T Mobile are all members of a competing NFC payment system called ISIS. These carriers have Google Wallet locked down and you cannot use it on their network or phones without extensive mods to your phone, including rooting and changing some lines of code in the phone to accept Google Wallet with the phones NFC system.

    I use Google Wallet some on my Nexus 4 and it is great. I see the terminals expanding to several new places since January of this year. I wish ATT would allow some choice and allow us to pick the NFC payment system that we like best instead of trying to force us to use their system. Like they do not get enough of our money. They are testing ISIS in Austin and Salt Lake City and it takes a special SIM card with a secure element to make it work. I have passed on using it as I switch my SIM between my Note 2 and Nexus 4. I will never use it as long as ATT tried to remove my choice and force me to use their system (end rant).
    My device (Verizon Galaxy Nexus) doesn't support it by default, but many ROM's include support. I have to agree, 0% chance I'm ever using ISIS because of how the carriers are handling this. It's actually worse, because they're not letting us use a competing project even though theirs isn't ready, so ... we can use nothing? If theirs were already out, it'd be a slightly different conversation... slightly.
    04-08-2013 06:59 PM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    Yet another reason to support the unlocked Nexus devices and not buy in to the carrier subsidies, contracts, etc. I'm still with Verizon because of the unlimited LTE, which in my area is by far and away the best service... but both of those criteria won't be true forever.
    04-08-2013 07:01 PM
  13. planoman's Avatar
    Yet another reason to support the unlocked Nexus devices and not buy in to the carrier subsidies, contracts, etc. I'm still with Verizon because of the unlimited LTE, which in my area is by far and away the best service... but both of those criteria won't be true forever.
    As plain vanilla android gets more refined there will be an even greater explosion of Nexus devices (will make the Nexus 4 sales look like peanuts) and more and more will buy this phone not tied to a carrier and use it on pre paid services without contracts and change services at will. There are still A LOT of people who need that subsidy but it is changing...
    04-08-2013 07:23 PM
  14. Lanhoj's Avatar
    I was able to use Google Wallet with an AT&T SIM. Never tried it in the US though only tried it while roaming in Canada (where it's not supported by any Canadian carrier) but it worked.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    04-08-2013 07:27 PM
  15. lafester's Avatar
    The only phones that have Google Wallet working are the Nexus phones & tablets and some of the Sprint line of phones. ATT, Verizon and T Mobile are all members of a competing NFC payment system called ISIS. These carriers have Google Wallet locked down and you cannot use it on their network or phones without extensive mods to your NFC phone, including rooting and changing some lines of code in the phone to accept Google Wallet with the phones NFC system.

    I use Google Wallet some on my Nexus 4 and it is great. I see the terminals expanding to several new places since January of this year. I wish ATT would allow some choice and allow us to pick the NFC payment system that we like best instead of trying to force us to use their system. Like they do not get enough of our money. They are testing ISIS in Austin and Salt Lake City and it takes a special SIM card with a secure element to make it work. I have passed on using it as I switch my SIM between my Note 2 and Nexus 4. I will never use it as long as ATT tries to remove my choice and force me to use their system (end rant).
    I wouldn't call editing the build.prop changing lines of code. Its a simple text document.

    Google Wallet Installer for US Galaxy S III Variants – xda-developers

    Looks like all you have to do is root, install this app and change a couple lines in the build.prop. Or simply flash a rom that supports it.
    04-09-2013 12:58 AM
  16. Jnorton2724's Avatar
    Ya I use Google Wallet on AT&T with my Nexus 4 but won't open with my AT&T GS3. They block it on their phones so you can't use it.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    04-09-2013 02:29 AM
  17. Mickeywdw1254's Avatar
    It can be done but would require root and some tweaking that I am not familiar with. I regularly use Google wallet on my AT&T Note 2 but I am rooted and using a rom that has a modified Google wallet included.
    04-09-2013 05:59 AM
  18. Davidjacobs21's Avatar
    04-09-2013 08:18 AM
  19. planoman's Avatar
    I wouldn't call editing the build.prop changing lines of code. Its a simple text document.

    Google Wallet Installer for US Galaxy S III Variants xda-developers

    Looks like all you have to do is root, install this app and change a couple lines in the build.prop. Or simply flash a rom that supports it.
    Really? What would you call it? Yes, I forgot to say flashing a ROM that has it but even after all that it might work as designed.

    No thanks. I have a Nexus 4.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    04-09-2013 08:47 AM
  20. Raptor007's Avatar
    I honestly have no idea about what rooting it would do, I don't want to give you any or anyone else any false information. All I know is AT&T has blocked it. But I'd imagine there would be some way around that block if you rooted the phone. But still, having to do that just to use an app that's in the play store is annoying.
    Rooting isn't too hard once the method has been proven and is released. Right now there isn't a whole lot of NFC use for Google Wallet in my market so I don't worry to much about it. What we need is for Google to put more pressure via FCC, FTC and Courts to force the carriers to allow it. Verizon has little wiggle room given the rules governing 700Mhz spectrum they have LTE on and their exucuses about security has been proven false since ISIS uses the same methods as Google Wallet needs.
    04-09-2013 11:26 AM
  21. Raptor007's Avatar
    Well ISIS is so great its only available in two cities, Salt Lake City and Austin, woo hoo,way to go ISIS Carriers.
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    04-09-2013 11:30 AM
  22. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    Well ISIS is so great its only available in two cities, Salt Lake City and Austin, woo hoo,way to go ISIS Carriers.
    Yeah, I am totally thrilled with isis. I only have to drive >2000 miles to reach a coke machine that accepts it. </sarcasm>
    04-10-2013 09:03 PM
  23. planoman's Avatar
    Yeah, I am totally thrilled with isis. I only have to drive >2000 miles to reach a coke machine that accepts it. </sarcasm>
    Lol! Actually several places take MasterCard paypass and have the terminals in the area I live. Seems like more and more all the time. Not to mention they are all over Austin since it is a test market for ISIS. They also take Google Wallet at these terminals.
    Maybe 2013 is the year NFCpayments take off...?


    Sent from my Nexus 4
    04-10-2013 09:22 PM
  24. rbess1965's Avatar
    I'm in Austin and just activated my ISIS a week ago for testing. Setup required some ISIS customer service assistance, Verizon store was pretty clueless but tried to help. I do think that the main issue could have been related to the recent OS update. I had to completely reload the app and somewhat start all over from when I first bought the phone in November. After the service was set back up, it had some updating of its own to do too. I'm fairly tech minded and don't give up on things very easily but I really had to make an effort to get this thing going. They will have to work out some of the kinks before the mainstream consumer will adopt it fully. So the process hasn't been seamless but the results so far have been pretty cool. The service works fantastic at the vending machines at my work, McDs down the street and basically anyplace that has an NFC reader. It doesnt have to be just ISIS branded. I received my companion card in the mail that works everywhere else that doesnt have NFC readers and I can use that at ATMs also. I only reload it with an amount I think Ill need and loading from another card is easy and instant. I will summarize by saying in my case, getting starting had some hiccups but the ability to use my phone this way is very convenient and futuristic I look forward to it becoming more mainstream but until then I will continue to impress my friends by paying by phone
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    04-11-2013 11:54 AM
  25. Raptor007's Avatar
    Just goes to show that AT&T, T-Mo and Verizon are holding Google Wallet back while they fix the cluster that ISIS is. I know Google made complaints about Google Wallet not be allowed on Verizon but that will take a year or more. In the meantime fair and free market competition is being held back and the Gov't does little to nothing about it.
    04-11-2013 12:20 PM
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