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  1. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    How is it wrong stating that there are different grades of aluminum (there are), with some that aren't as soft. (there are again) I didn't say titanium and steel weren't harder. What I said was that there ARE different grades of aluminum that are harder than what you're implying.



    Not a minority opinion at all. The tens of millions of aluminum and steel handsets out there prove that. If you include handsets with a mix (Metal and other materials) those handsets are clearly in the majority. Its also telling that the majority of premium smartphones sold, by far, are not made out of plastic. The market doesn't lie.



    This is true. Samsung uses cheap plastic. Nokia and htc don't. But that still doesn't change the fact that a handset that is metal will still feel more premium than one that's made out of nice plastic.

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    04-18-2013 09:24 AM
  2. LeoRex's Avatar
    But that still doesn't change the fact that a handset that is metal will still feel more premium than one that's made out of nice plastic.
    Debatable. I would say that the number one factor is the perception of a phone's 'premium' feel is 1) screen and 2) operation. Like someone said earlier, people spend their time looking at the screen, not the body (which is often dropped in an add-on case ANYHOW). A crappy phone in a high quality case is still a crappy phone (not saying that the One is a crappy phone though). Show someone an nice, big, sharp display on a responsive and quick phone and it could be made of cardboard and people will view it as a premium device.

    HTC probably made the decision to go with that case in an attempt to differentiate it from the S line... something to make it look different or feel different in order to try to get it sold. The SIII's look is now as ubiquitous as the iPhone... you can spot one from far away and instantly know its a SIII... I was in Disney recently and I only remember seeing two phones; iPhones and SIIIs, both seen in equal numbers and the rest just blended into an minority of amorphous blob of 'other phones'.

    HTC is trying to do something to make the One not one of those amorphous blob phones. We'll see if it works, I don't think it will, Samsung's S4 will most likely slaughter it as far as sales and popularity goes. And not too many people are going to care that the case is plastic.
    04-18-2013 09:30 AM
  3. Donvald's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not known for poor build quality. Choice of build materials is something else. This relatively recent and faddish issue surrounding aluminium in my view is a symptom of android as a platforms success and also samsungs success. I can't recall an issue concerning build quality and Samsung polycarbonate phones but I can with other mobile phone manufacturers and this has been due to the choice of build materials.

    Polycarbonate has proved reliable and efficient, durable and malleable. It's also a substance people associate with longevity due to its ability to stand up to the abuse. Now Samsung and android as a platform have a few iPhone refugees which is good and they require phones in the form factor using the materials which they have been indoctrinated into believing Is premium. In addition to those who were always with the platform but felt somehow sort changed by polycarbonate because Apple told them to feel so.

    The HTC One is for them, together with the same shortcomings minus the necessary AppleCare needed for the inevitable problems that will arise due to what I consider lacklustre build materials despite the great form factor and components.
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    04-18-2013 05:08 PM
  4. chris2k5's Avatar
    Samsung phones are not known for poor build quality. Choice of build materials is something else. This relatively recent and faddish issue surrounding aluminium in my view is a symptom of android as a platforms success and also samsungs success. I can't recall an issue concerning build quality and Samsung polycarbonate phones but I can with other mobile phone manufacturers and this has been due to the choice of build materials.

    Polycarbonate has proved reliable and efficient, durable and malleable. It's also a substance people associate with longevity due to its ability to stand up to the abuse. Now Samsung and android as a platform have a few iPhone refugees which is good and they require phones in the form factor using the materials which they have been indoctrinated into believing Is premium. In addition to those who were always with the platform but felt somehow sort changed by polycarbonate because Apple told them to feel so.

    The HTC One is for them, together with the same shortcomings minus the necessary AppleCare needed for the inevitable problems that will arise due to what I consider lacklustre build materials despite the great form factor and components.
    Samsung is known for poor build quality. The S3 and Note 2 creak like crazy when gripping them. I know someone fanboy is going to come in and say theirs doesn't creak but that is no defense.

    The older Samsung Windows Mobile 5 and 6 phones had poor build quality too.
    04-18-2013 07:29 PM
  5. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    Samsung is known for poor build quality. The S3 and Note 2 creak like crazy when gripping them. I know someone fanboy is going to come in and say theirs doesn't creak but that is no defense.

    The older Samsung Windows Mobile 5 and 6 phones had poor build quality too.
    Of couse the only thing more annoying to me than fanboys are their opposites that spout a bunch of BS. None of the S3 or Note 2 I've came across had those issues including my own Note 2.

    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
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    04-18-2013 07:52 PM
  6. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Of couse the only thing more annoying to me than fanboys are their opposites that spout a bunch of BS. None of the S3 or Note 2 I've came across had those issues including my own Note 2.

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    I sell the phones daily and never saw that problem

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    04-18-2013 09:15 PM
  7. planoman's Avatar
    Of couse the only thing more annoying to me than fanboys are their opposites that spout a bunch of BS. None of the S3 or Note 2 I've came across had those issues including my own Note 2.

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    My current Note 2 Power button squeaks and my S3 home button would get the edge stuck periodically. I was glad to see a more oval shaped home button on the s4 like the Note 2. I do not think these issue affect the operation of the phone, but they are there and reported in enough numbers that they are not anecdotal.
    04-18-2013 09:30 PM
  8. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    My current Note 2 Power button squeaks and my S3 home button would get the edge stuck periodically. I was glad to see a more oval shaped home button on the s4 like the Note 2. I do not think these issue affect the operation of the phone, but they are there and reported in enough numbers that they are not anecdotal.
    It's like people who got scratches on their new iPhone or now people are posting about dead pixels on their HTC One, manufacturing errors can happen. It is one thing saying that some people unluckily got a bad product, it's another making it sound like a company just puts out crap products and you're lucky to get a good product.

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    04-18-2013 09:53 PM
  9. planoman's Avatar
    It's like people who got scratches on their new iPhone or now people are posting about dead pixels on their HTC One, manufacturing errors can happen. It is one thing saying that some people unluckily got a bad product, it's another making it sound like a company just puts out crap products and you're lucky to get a good product.

    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    Agreed, but I guess each of us has our opinion formed by experiences with particular brands. An N of one is anecdotal data but it is powerful if it is our experience. To indict an entire line of devices from a manufacturer is probably not accurate but that is how brand loyalty is formed. We all have bias. The amount of trolling going on shows that...
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    04-18-2013 10:40 PM
  10. Suda's Avatar


    Just to drive home the point that build material ≠ build quality. They're often times related to each other depending on how the person uses the term, but the two are not mutually exclusive.
    04-19-2013 08:34 PM
  11. Raptor007's Avatar
    I don't see any build quality issues with any of my prior Samsung phones and I could care less if they are aluminum or not. What I care about is software updates, software features and internal components. I want a device I can easily repair and the HTC One is NOT an easily repaired device.
    04-19-2013 09:37 PM
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