04-23-2013 12:56 PM
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  1. madlaw1071's Avatar
    As previously stated, I want to like this phone and I am putting it thru its paces for the ATT remorse period until the S4 is available.

    This post will also be posted in the HTC threads. Let me clear, I am NOT a Samsung fan boy. I am loyal to no brand or OS and go back and forth between iOS and Android. I am currently using an S3.

    THE GOOD:

    1. Build design and materials(not a comment on quality) is as good as advertised. Feels and looks great.

    2. Display also as good as advertised, bright and sharp.(Size too small, especially with black bar, see below)

    3. FAST, everything is lightening quick.

    4. BoomSound/Beats: For me personally, having the loud speakers is a waste since I always keep the phone on vibrate and consume media thru headphones but the quality is there. HOWEVER, output thru my bluetooth headphones is simply the best I've heard. Toggling Beats on and off was quite noticeable. Well done HTC.

    5. Native Exchange client: good enough that I dont feel the need to install Touchdown. Set up easy, good functionality.

    6. Native SMS client: Way better than Sammy's, no need for Handcent. Nice customizations and swiping reveals lots of neat info on contacts. Also, great pic sync for contacts.

    7. HTC keyboard, nicely done. Space bar is a bit sticky but feel no need to use SwiftKey. Miles better than Sammy's.

    THE BAD:

    1. LED light. I like being able to tweak the color so I can glance at the phone and know who are what notifications are waiting for me. Even Blackberry lets you tweak the color. Having to turn on the screen every time is a battery waster and feeds into other problems...see below.

    2. Dreaded Black Bar: HTC's decision to eschew a menu key, while in technical compliance with Google spec(for u Adrian ) forces a black menu bar into many apps(like Facebook) chewing up already limited screen space. Granted 4.7 vs. 4.8 or 5.0 is a personal choice but for me when the black bar is present, everything seems cramped.

    3. No settings toggles in the pull down shade. SILLY HTC. I know there are 3rd party apps and widgets but this is just a stupid omission as many professional reviews have noted.

    4. Maybe I am missing it, but no way to show battery % on the status bar. I'm sure it's available 3rd party but again, silly.

    5. Blinkfeed, nowhere near as elegant or comprehensive as Flipboard so what was the point of forcing it on the user? You can't like/comment in the Facebook or Twitter feeds without being taken to the apps themselves, which defeats the purpose. Flipboard lets you like/comment within Flipboard itself. 10x better.

    THE UGLY:

    1. Style over function, the switch gear on this phone while aesthetically pleasing is a disaster. For a right hander who holds the phone in his left hand, as I'm sure most do, the power button is in the worst possible place and to make matters worse, it's flush. It is near impossible to activate this phone by feel. For me, because of the poor LED, I constantly have to fiddle with the switch just to find out if I have an notifications. Likewise the volume rocker can't be used by feel since there is no way to distinguish up from down.

    2. Soft Keys. As MANY others have complained, the back and home buttons seem to have a mind of their own. It only registers my input 1 out of 3 times. Worse still, they dont light up when the screen is on. They only light up in extreme dark conditions. I've looked everywhere for settings and found none. In all but the best lighting conditions or a dark room, it's total guess work as to where the keys are and then it's a crap shoot as to whether my press is registered.

    UNTESTED: call quality

    TOO SOON TO TELL: Battery life, only 2 charges so far and so much screen time, not fair to comment yet. Camera, only had time for some indoor shots which as expected for this phone are acceptable.

    There you have it. The good, the bad and the ugly.
    fkpalm likes this.
    04-22-2013 09:34 AM
  2. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Can't you change LED colors with the LightFlow App?
    04-22-2013 09:49 AM
  3. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Can't you change LED colors with the LightFlow App?
    Havent tried that one but from what I've read the LED only flash green or amber no matter what.
    04-22-2013 09:53 AM
  4. jrvtecaccord's Avatar
    1. Style over function, the switch gear on this phone while aesthetically pleasing is a disaster. For a right hander who holds the phone in his left hand, as I'm sure most do, the power button is in the worst possible place and to make matters worse, it's flush. It is near impossible to activate this phone by feel. For me, because of the poor LED, I constantly have to fiddle with the switch just to find out if I have an notifications. Likewise the volume rocker can't be used by feel since there is no way to distinguish up from down.
    That was one of the main reasons why I returned the One X within a few days when it first came out. If I recall correctly, the power button was on the top right with very little feel making pressing the button difficult. The LED notification on the One X would stop after a set time, sounds like the One is the same. I really wanted to try the One, but knowing this, it would be a return.

    I am an S3 user waiting on the next Nexus, if it has LTE I will be on board, if not S4 it is until the Note 3.
    04-22-2013 10:31 AM
  5. LoganK's Avatar
    1. LED light. I like being able to tweak the color so I can glance at the phone and know who are what notifications are waiting for me. Even Blackberry lets you tweak the color. Having to turn on the screen every time is a battery waster and feeds into other problems...see below.
    You said you had an S III, and it sounds like you weren't using Lightflow. How do you typically tweak the notification colors? I'd love to do that, but Lightflow is the only method I'm familiar with.

    I am an S3 user waiting on the next Nexus, if it has LTE I will be on board, if not S4 it is until the Note 3.
    What if the rumors are true and Google releases an updated Nexus 4 with LTE next month? Same phone, but with LTE support. I'm just curious...
    04-22-2013 12:33 PM
  6. madlaw1071's Avatar
    You said you had an S III, and it sounds like you weren't using Lightflow. How do you typically tweak the notification colors? I'd love to do that, but Lightflow is the only method I'm familiar with.

    I use Handcent for SMS, lets me customize colors by contact and Touchdown for exchange mail which lets me select the color so it's different than gmail.

    What if the rumors are true and Google releases an updated Nexus 4 with LTE next month? Same phone, but with LTE support. I'm just curious...
    04-22-2013 01:01 PM
  7. KoukiFC3S's Avatar
    Good stuff. Thanks for the impressions.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
    04-22-2013 01:47 PM
  8. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    I'm curious about something since no one I know has a Nexus device. Does the Nexus have the black bar issue as well?

    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    04-22-2013 02:28 PM
  9. dmmarck's Avatar
    I'm curious about something since no one I know has a Nexus device. Does the Nexus have the black bar issue as well?

    Sent from my Jelly Bean chomping Infuse 4G!
    No. I came from a Galaxy Nexus and also own a Nexus 7. Black bar w/ "settings/menu" sticks out like a sore thumb.
    The Real X Dawg likes this.
    04-22-2013 02:52 PM
  10. madlaw1071's Avatar
    No. I came from a Galaxy Nexus and also own a Nexus 7. Black bar w/ "settings/menu" sticks out like a sore thumb.
    It was totally unnecessary too. All they had to do was but a menu button where the HTC logo is and there would be no issue.
    04-22-2013 02:56 PM
  11. dmmarck's Avatar
    It was totally unnecessary too. All they had to do was but a menu button where the HTC logo is and there would be no issue.
    I agree. Or long press the back button...

    It's probably the only thing I hate on this phone. Coming from a GN, this is a quantum leap in every single department (except software lol).
    04-22-2013 02:57 PM
  12. madlaw1071's Avatar
    I agree. Or long press the back button...

    It's probably the only thing I hate on this phone. Coming from a GN, this is a quantum leap in every single department (except software lol).
    I've had the phone only 2 days and I'm already bored with it. Very few customizations and settings to play with. Sense seems dark and dreary. Used to the colors on Touchwiz.
    04-22-2013 03:04 PM
  13. dmmarck's Avatar
    I've had the phone only 2 days and I'm already bored with it. Very few customizations and settings to play with. Sense seems dark and dreary. Used to the colors on Touchwiz.
    Maybe it's not for you. I do know that of the skins I've tried, I prefer Sense. TW is a laborious, cumbersome beast.

    I prefer stock, and my One will be stock once the dev support comes.

    (Which, btw, is a good mark for the One; I believe CM said they were reluctant to support the S4)
    04-22-2013 03:05 PM
  14. PsYcHoNeWb's Avatar
    Maybe it's not for you. I do know that of the skins I've tried, I prefer Sense. TW is a laborious, cumbersome beast.

    I prefer stock, and my One will be stock once the dev support comes.

    (Which, btw, is a good mark for the One; I believe CM said they were reluctant to support the S4)
    You are correct.
    04-22-2013 03:12 PM
  15. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Maybe it's not for you. I do know that of the skins I've tried, I prefer Sense. TW is a laborious, cumbersome beast.

    I prefer stock, and my One will be stock once the dev support comes.

    (Which, btw, is a good mark for the One; I believe CM said they were reluctant to support the S4)
    I don't root but I do play with various launchers. Actually since Jelly Bean I've just been using stock Touchwiz and have no issues with it. Looking forward to 4.2.2 on the S4
    04-22-2013 03:12 PM
  16. dmmarck's Avatar
    I don't root but I do play with various launchers. Actually since Jelly Bean I've just been using stock Touchwiz and have no issues with it. Looking forward to 4.2.2 on the S4
    Different strokes. The beauty of Android .
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    04-22-2013 03:15 PM
  17. mookiekillsit's Avatar
    Havent tried that one but from what I've read the LED only flash green or amber no matter what.
    Yep. HTC only has two colors. It's not a huge deal but that was always one of my gripes w/ them.
    04-22-2013 04:01 PM
  18. SteveISU's Avatar
    I too have the One and love everything about it, except the power button. I've never thought a single feature would give me second thoughts about keeping an otherwise awesome device, but having to constantly fumble around with the phone to turn it on sucks big time. Turning on a phone should not require two hands.
    04-22-2013 04:43 PM
  19. dmmarck's Avatar
    I too have the One and love everything about it, except the power button. I've never thought a single feature would give me second thoughts about keeping an otherwise awesome device, but having to constantly fumble around with the phone to turn it on sucks big time. Turning on a phone should not require two hands.
    I'm left handed, so naturally I can turn it on/off with ease lol
    04-22-2013 04:45 PM
  20. SteveISU's Avatar
    I'm left handed, so naturally I can turn it on/off with ease lol
    Being right handed I have to either hold the phone in my left and turn it on with my right or turn the phone on with my right hand and transfer it to my left hand. Whoever designed that and thought that was the best placement should be shot along with Chou.
    04-22-2013 04:48 PM
  21. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Being right handed I have to either hold the phone in my left and turn it on with my right or turn the phone on with my right hand and transfer it to my left hand. Whoever designed that and thought that was the best placement should be shot along with Chou.
    I hate the home and back buttons equally as much. They dont always work and dont light up.
    04-22-2013 04:53 PM
  22. SteveISU's Avatar
    I hate the home and back buttons equally as much. They dont always work and dont light up.

    I have no issues with those buttons, but yes I do feel sometimes they should light up when they don't. I wish HTC would stick a setting in the phone to allow the user to turn on the buttons when the phone is on.
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    04-22-2013 05:09 PM
  23. LoganK's Avatar
    (Which, btw, is a good mark for the One; I believe CM said they were reluctant to support the S4)
    You are correct.
    No, "they" didn't say that, but it was reported that way.

    One CM contributor (I believe an Exynos S III developer) said Team Hacksung would not support the S 4 because Samsung has not been forthcoming with the Exynos source code and documentation. Qualcomm has been much better, and is quite likely to get support.

    CM being a community effort, it really boils down to whether or not anyone is willing to put in the time. The odds are really good that the Snapdragon S 4 will be supported. This is especially true in the context of expecting support for the HTC One which is running the exact same SoC.

    By the way, I'd like to give credit for HTC finally opening up their phones. The locked down system was always a strong black mark against them (sure, somebody always cracked it, but it shouldn't be that difficult just to start developing). I think I read that HTC actually released the HTC One system unlocker before the phone was even on the market. Kudos!
    04-22-2013 07:00 PM
  24. Plumrific's Avatar
    same here, had the phone three days and I'm super bored with it.
    madlaw1071 likes this.
    04-23-2013 08:32 AM
  25. dmmarck's Avatar
    No, "they" didn't say that, but it was reported that way.

    One CM contributor (I believe an Exynos S III developer) said Team Hacksung would not support the S 4 because Samsung has not been forthcoming with the Exynos source code and documentation. Qualcomm has been much better, and is quite likely to get support.

    CM being a community effort, it really boils down to whether or not anyone is willing to put in the time. The odds are really good that the Snapdragon S 4 will be supported. This is especially true in the context of expecting support for the HTC One which is running the exact same SoC.

    By the way, I'd like to give credit for HTC finally opening up their phones. The locked down system was always a strong black mark against them (sure, somebody always cracked it, but it shouldn't be that difficult just to start developing). I think I read that HTC actually released the HTC One system unlocker before the phone was even on the market. Kudos!
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't AOSP roms on the GS3 a bit of a nightmare, at least they were initially?
    04-23-2013 08:36 AM
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