05-04-2013 03:08 PM
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  1. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    So someone please tell me exactly what this thread has accomplished. If I get a satisfactory answer I'll keep it open. Otherwise it's gonna get closed because it has all the signs of going downhill rather quickly.
    Because there's an awesome ice cream shop across from my ATT store? The birthday cake with a chocolate covered waffle cone is epic!

    My phone is a good One!
    04-30-2013 01:22 AM
  2. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    So someone please tell me exactly what this thread has accomplished. If I get a satisfactory answer I'll keep it open. Otherwise it's gonna get closed because it has all the signs of going downhill rather quickly.
    I had originally requested you keep this open but there is no point in me fighting it. You may close the thread if you'd like.
    Kevin
    04-30-2013 01:56 AM
  3. robsawalker's Avatar
    Kevin

    I can't say I have noticed HTC fans hating more than Samsung fans to be honest. Some people love Samsung and see them doing no wrong, and some feel the same way about HTC.

    I currently have a Galaxy S3, and before that I had a Galaxy Note, and before that I had iPhones. Now, I am waiting for my HTC One to be delivered - my first HTC. Both phones ( actually all three brands) are brilliant and no-one in their right mind could honestly say otherwise. Anybody who blindly follows a single company is a fool to them self - better to look at all phones available to you and choose the one that is right for you. Of course, Samsung have been carrying out some pretty unpleasant tactics recently according to the news (ie paying students to rubbish HTC) which I think is kinda pathetic. I also think that, looking at the HTC One and S4, HTC have spent more time really thinking about what people use a smartphone for and taking some pretty bold risks, for which they should be commended. Samsung seem to have become obsessed with cramming stuff on which is designed to impress, but is of little real-world value.

    Samsung outspent every other manufacturer last year on marketing, so it's little surprise they have sold so many phones, especially when the S3 was(is) such a great phone too. Not perfect, but very, very good. The S4 will be even better - lighter, better screen, higher res camera, faster etc. But, to me at least, they haven't spent as much time really thinking about what to put on the phone, unlike HTC who I think have. Almost every review I have read about the S4 says that the software they have put on it is pretty useless. That is why I am going to try the new HTC next. I don't think it will be perfect either, but for me it is the best fit right now.

    But I agree, the rampant fanboyism on both sides achieves nothing; let's have a mature discussion about these phones instead! There are so many interesting things to discuss about them.

    -Robsa

    PS Wouldn't your post have been better in the HTC One forum?
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    04-30-2013 03:42 AM
  4. omniusovermind's Avatar
    very pretty. whats wrong with paying a compliment to the competing team?
    I tried to use that line of reasoning with my wife but she was still mad
    04-30-2013 04:38 AM
  5. dc9super80's Avatar
    Checked out the htc one in the store. I think it looks nice, but not the phone for me. I personally chose the s4 because it is what I wanted. especially for memory expandability and features i liked. And I came from Iphone for the last 4 years. had my gs3 for about 3 weeks then ordered my gs4 which will be here in a couple of days.. using my iphone 3gs right now. it feels so tiny now....
    Apart from the fact that you are using a 3gs. How is that old guy holding up..? We are talking 2009 here (6 years).
    04-30-2013 08:12 AM
  6. CehowardNote7's Avatar
    Just want to get my two cents in before it is closed!!

    This place rocks!! (big compliment)

    When you have a lot of people discussing whatever, a lot of good info comes to the surface. Yeah, we have to put up with the crappy stuff too. But, in my opinion, the crappy stuff is in the minority. Just like our system of government. We have to put up with the crappy stuff, because it comes along with our freedoms. There is a LIMIT on how much crappy stuff our government will take, and the same goes for here. With all that said, being a newbie into this, the S4 has knocked me down.. From my newbie position, and doing a lot and I mean a lot of reading, the S4 has my name on it..The SD card and the removable battery are a big plus. Then you add the camera in, a no brainer to me. However, a lot of people can feel the exact same way over the HTC ONE, and guess what, they be correct too. Being an older gent (72), I have found out from the length of my years, that you can have people can have different opinions/conclusions on the same subject/topic, and they ALL BE CORRRECT.

    HTC people, enjoy your phone. S4 people, including myself are going to really enjoy this phone.. (big wrinkled old grin)
    04-30-2013 08:47 AM
  7. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I had originally requested you keep this open but there is no point in me fighting it. You may close the thread if you'd like.
    Kevin
    Well yeah, but when it goes the direction of getting into flamewars, insults, etc it's not worth keeping open. Seems things have gotten better since my post.
    04-30-2013 09:42 AM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    So someone please tell me exactly what this thread has accomplished. If I get a satisfactory answer I'll keep it open. Otherwise it's gonna get closed because it has all the signs of going downhill rather quickly.
    I had originally requested you keep this open but there is no point in me fighting it. You may close the thread if you'd like.
    Kevin
    I agree with closing. This did nothing but bait a flame war.

    Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums.
    04-30-2013 10:08 AM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    You could make a list of the "bashers" just from looking at this thread. They are easy to spot, because they got all bent out of shape over someone commenting on the lack of class and couth by a handful of One users who feel the need to come to the S4 forums and start flame wars....

    It is a childish attempt at inflating ones ego.

    Things such as this ~



    Do you really have so little self control you have to come in here bashing?
    LOL.

    Goes both ways.
    04-30-2013 10:43 AM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    You seems to have a bone to pick with everyone.


    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rvyHq4-yQQ...net_fights.jpg
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    04-30-2013 10:45 AM
  11. kbp08tls's Avatar
    So predictable. I've been surfing the One and S4 forums just out of curiosity, and just about every thread is deja-vu from around the time of the HTC One variants and S3 launches last year. Every single thread devolved into a EVO 4G LTE vs S3 debate. Didn't matter what the original topic was. And I'll admit I partook in a little bit of good-natured poking around the S3 forums at the time.
    Once the novelty and shiny newness wears off these phones, and/or the next major launch comes around, everyone will settle down and concentrate on their chosen device, and you'll see these forums (S4 and HTC One) be much more productive.
    04-30-2013 11:19 AM
  12. bp240's Avatar
    You're joking, right? I mean really... have you not been on the One forums at all? Until a few days ago when the GS4 was finally getting in the hands of the masses, it was all anyone could do not to see a Sammy fan jump onto a random thread, about a device they would never consider buying, and commence to tell everyone how the battery sucks, no microSD sucks, aluminum sucks, Taiwan sucks, blah blah blah. "What's the thread about?" "It doesn't matter, let's just go over there and whiz all over it because there isn't really anything going on in the GS4 forums yet."

    You should have said something more along the lines of "look - I know that for the last two months you HTC fans have dealt with some (not all) Sammy fans being complete nincompoops on the forums, but now that the GS4 is out I think that kind of behavior needs to stop. I didn't think so before, when it was aggravating you to no end, but now that it has started to effect me I think it should stop."

    I really do agree with you in principle though - the constant device bashing really impedes people from enjoying the forums as a place to go for help, insight and general camaraderie and solidarity.
    No one said that S4 fanboys on the One forums were ever ok by us. You're preaching to the choir though. I'd imagine that OP started this thread for the same reason I would've; we want actual discussions and its a pain in the *** to have to keep bypassing all these "one is better" posts.

    Reading through the forums learning about the s4 a bit more...couldn't resist this thread and to say there is soooo much trolling going on in our forums, more than here. I'm all up for a healthy debate but thread after thread?

    Sent from my awesome HTC One B-)
    If I were to have started this thread, want to know why I wouldn't bother going talking about S4 owners trolling the One forums? Because I don't visit the One forums. I visit the S4 forums to because that's what I'm interested in.

    Talking about an eye for an eye gets us nowhere. To fix a problem, post a thread where the trolls and fanboys are, not where they associate themselves with. To address the S4 fanboys in the One forums, do it in the One forums. Complaining about them here is sort of like telling the teacher who isn't supervising recess about the bully in the schoolyard. We get that they're over by you guys, but its not like we can handle that from here.
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    04-30-2013 11:26 AM
  13. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    So predictable. I've been surfing the One and S4 forums just out of curiosity, and just about every thread is deja-vu from around the time of the HTC One variants and S3 launches last year. Every single thread devolved into a EVO 4G LTE vs S3 debate. Didn't matter what the original topic was. And I'll admit I partook in a little bit of good-natured poking around the S3 forums at the time.
    Once the novelty and shiny newness wears off these phones, and/or the next major launch comes around, everyone will settle down and concentrate on their chosen device, and you'll see these forums (S4 and HTC One) be much more productive.
    This is exactly what I hoped to accomplish by writing this letter. Perhaps even the smallest reduction in an out of nowhere debate in countless helpful threads.
    04-30-2013 12:06 PM
  14. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    Well yeah, but when it goes the direction of getting into flamewars, insults, etc it's not worth keeping open. Seems things have gotten better since my post.
    Thank you. We'll try to play nice. I'm not looking to burn anyones blueberry muffins. Just want to express that I'm here for the excitement of everything to do with this phone and would like to keep that excitement level up.
    04-30-2013 12:08 PM
  15. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Pretty sure what he was saying went right over your head.
    This guy is one of the top 3 worst at what we've been talking about. It's been a long long time since i've seen JHB actually contribute something other than sarcasm and personal insults to a thread.

    I agree with what some have said that it goes both ways. Right now, HTC is just suffering from little man's syndrome. They are the odd man out because the good devices are being undermined by the idiots running the company. So fans of the phones feel they have to overcompensate with rude comments toward any other phone that's successful. They automatically go for the lowest insult possible which is to compare Samsung fans to Apple fans. They know that will be the meanest thing they can say and they jump straight to it. Funny thing is, every person i've seen do it, is actually themselves just as much a fan of their own device and have the same closed mindedness they are accusing others of.

    I want the HTC One. I am not bashing HTC because I love Samsung or hate HTC. I REALLY want the One. My biggest hesitation, is there's so many a**es on the HTC forums right now, that if I needed help with something I wouldn't want to ask anyone because of the stupid responses i'd be sure to get back. Mostly do to cattails and JHB. Loud mouths that ruin the whole experience for everyone else.

    I know there's good people in those forums, but the idiots are the ones who overshadow any good. And yes, that does exist in the S4 forum as well which is why I own the S3. Hopefully Samsung fans can just appreciate their awesome devices, and hopefully HTC fans can stop feeling like they're having to overcompensate. If you have the One, feel lucky. A lot of people are envious. Stop feeling like you have to attack someone else to make your enjoyment fulfilled.
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    04-30-2013 12:13 PM
  16. The Real X Dawg's Avatar
    The annoying part of this entire "debate" is the over exaggeration of every device's flaws and almost instant dismissal of any feature that isn't essential as a gimmick. Then there's the outright hypocrisy when it comes to defending their choice. Their flaws aren't that bad and what they called gimmicks on the product they're bashing is something useful on their product because of some random reasoning behind it. The exaggeration is so bad at times an outsider reading that crap would have to wonder how Samsung, HTC, and Apple even remain relevant in the market.


    My phone is a good One!
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    04-30-2013 12:33 PM
  17. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    Though I agree with a lot of what's being said about the way people come off at times, let's please limit the name calling and calling people out by name in this thread. I'd really like to keep it open and my intent of starting this thread wasn't to start a war though some believe it to be. I want to be friends with people no matter what phone they use. Just as long as we are all respectful.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    04-30-2013 12:43 PM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    IMO, both currently have evil in them. The One has no expandable storage or OTG storage support and the S4 has almost half the app storage taken up by stock and my carrier not exactly making an effort to offer anything larger.

    IMO, pick your poison Verizon: Great coverage and sucky device efforts.
    04-30-2013 12:52 PM
  19. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    As of late, it seems there are more One vs. S4 arguments then there are Android vs. iPhone. Obviously, both devices are at the highest end, and there are slight differences between the two, and I really wish the discussions on both forums would focus on that rather than the old Ford vs. Chevy argument which gets us all nowhere. Either way, we should all be happy that there is a standout Android-powered device for every level of user, so the options are endless!
    Unfortunately, this seems to be typical whenever a new high-end phone is released. We went through it with the S3 / HTC one-x, and even between the one-x and Evo 4g LTE, even though those were almost identical phones. We'll see similar things when the iPhone 5 is introduced. If Windows phone sold enough to matter, we'd see it with that device, too.

    Some people don't seem to be able to separate their real lives from their phones, and treat their phone like it was part of their religion. It's sad, and rather infantile, but eventually it will die down.
    04-30-2013 02:03 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    The Samsung guys just need to point at the scoreboard (of sales).

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
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    04-30-2013 06:12 PM
  21. return_0's Avatar
    The Samsung guys just need to point at the scoreboard (of sales).

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    I think that only proves how good Samsung is at marketing and not how good the actual phone is.
    04-30-2013 08:41 PM
  22. Ry's Avatar
    I think that only proves how good Samsung is at marketing and not how good the actual phone is.
    You say that like Samsung's products aren't good at all.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    04-30-2013 08:45 PM
  23. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    I am debating getting the S4 but have HTC phones I would not say these fourms are any different then the HTC ones, theirs alot of haters and bashers there as well or trolls whatever you want to call them

    Sent From My HTC Droid DNA Using Taptalk
    I was also debating on which phone to get. However, after watching videos and reading reviews,I decided to go with the s4. There were just some small annoying things on The One that made me go with the s4.
    04-30-2013 08:54 PM
  24. return_0's Avatar
    Bottom line: Both phones are amazing devices. They each have very minor and few problems that are greatly exaggerated. Each phone is for a different kind of person but they are both great choices.

    See my post here:
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ml#post2743778
    04-30-2013 08:58 PM
  25. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    I wish htc and Samsung would merge.

    Keep HTC's build material, speakers,internal storage capacity, launcher, screen quality, but add Samsung's features, removable battery, battery capacity, sd cards, build quality, and processor and you have the perfect phone.

    Both companies can learn a lot from each other

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
    I sure hope not. What would actually happen is the Samsung conglomerate would swallow HTC whole, and that wouldn't be a good thing. And I don't see how this would benefit Samsung one bit.

    IMO, both currently have evil in them. The One has no expandable storage or OTG storage support and the S4 has almost half the app storage taken up by stock and my carrier not exactly making an effort to offer anything larger.

    IMO, pick your poison Verizon: Great coverage and sucky device efforts.
    The One doesn't have an SD card slot because its my understanding that Google wants to eliminate SD card slot and removable batteries from Android. Every phone that I have ever owned had a removable battery, and I have never bought a spare battery. I know that everybody is different, but I have micro and mini USB cables coming out of my ***. I have USB ports in both cars, and even installed USB outlets in my home. My phone's battery dying on me ? Not going to happen. Ever.
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    04-30-2013 09:24 PM
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