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  1. madlaw1071's Avatar
    05-05-2013 09:35 AM
  2. 20blks's Avatar
    Not surprised at all

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Android Central Forums
    05-05-2013 09:41 AM
  3. Topgonzo's Avatar
    Good article and is no surprise.. The article though isn't based on reporting from either htc or Samsung but rather stores in the Los Angeles area..

    Sent from my HTCONE using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
    05-05-2013 09:50 AM
  4. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Not surprised, but at least the One is selling well too.

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    05-05-2013 09:52 AM
  5. 84guy's Avatar
    Been with htc since the mogul, was going to get the one. But 4mp camera, i know it's not all about mp but come on, 4mp is way too low, no sd card, no removable battery (at least the evo lte was easy to get to the battery, the one is horrible) and htc is getting bad with updates.

    So got the s4 instead and loving it. I actually prefer plastic over metal. The evo lte was always sucking water out of my hands and was always too cold or too hot

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    05-05-2013 10:01 AM
  6. lou61166's Avatar
    Been with htc since the mogul, was going to get the one. But 4mp camera, no sd card, no removable battery (at least the evo was easy to get to the battery, the one is horrible) and htc is getting bad with updates.

    So got the s4 instead and loving it. I actually prefer plastic over metal. The evo lte was always sucking water out of my hands and was always too cold or too hot

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    Funny how people keep saying HTC is terrible with updates my rezound just got it's 4th update and my DNA has had 2.and with Verizon who people claim never update anything.
    05-05-2013 10:05 AM
  7. Habiib's Avatar

    "... the latter has been available from some carriers since April 27th. Even with the nearly two week head start that the HTC One had,.."

    "As for returns, a reliable source inside a Sprint store says that the HTC One has been returned because of dead pixels and blown-out speakers, although he was quick to note that it has yet to become a major problem. Still, fewer Samsung Galaxy S4 units have been brought back to the store. Another thing in favor of Korean based Samsung is the company's larger marketing budget. A new ad for the flagship model was just added to the prime time television rotation.

    Thanks, Anonymous Tipster!
    Amazing article. I knew the HTC One didn't have a chance sales-wise against the S4. I also find it even more shocking that a device that has been available for a little over 1 week (with limited supply) has a lower return rate brought back rate. In this instance the method of gathering data for the purpose of providing statistics information is excellent. This is proof that having one source of anonymous information (which happens to be a "He") provides an accurate representation of the success and failures of a mobile phone. I honestly think that not having a the (certain set of hardware features) is the reason why the HTC One is having relatively poor sales...or not.

    Edit: Grammer error (I'm working on my English so pardon me)
    05-05-2013 10:33 AM
  8. ffejjj's Avatar
    No surprise here really. Samsung is like a stream roller. They are riding the success of several nice phones and they have deep pockets. Their new s4 is another example of this. It's a well built phone with a lot to offer.

    HTC on the other hand is a company on the ropes looking to score big just to try to stay afloat. I think they did too. The One is a great device. My personal choice as well but to think it could out sell the s4 is quite a stretch.

    Then you add the fact that most sales representatives seem to push you towards the s4 too (in my case anyway). The several times I've been into sprint, best buy or radio shack they've done this when I have specifically said I was in to look at the one.

    So all this adds up to Samsung having good success again

    1 great phone
    2 great marketing
    3 favoritism among sales associates

    I just hope htc gets there just dues. They've brought an awesome alternative to the market with the one.

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    TomsAndroid likes this.
    05-05-2013 11:04 AM
  9. Eric Kane's Avatar
    For HTC, its not for lack of support. I've been to 2 corporate locations this weekend getting cases/returning cases for my review and both stores have islands in the middle with HTC One displays.

    For the record, both locations sold out of the S4 on launch day. They still have plenty HTC Ones available. Cant say I'm surprised.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    05-05-2013 11:05 AM
  10. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Lol @ everyone saying no surprise

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 Exynos!
    madlaw1071 likes this.
    05-05-2013 11:05 AM
  11. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Lol @ everyone saying no surprise

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 Exynos!
    Why? It was more likely this world happen. :P HTC still lacks marketing that's on par with Samsung.

    Sent from my Nexus 10 using Android Central Forums
    jroc likes this.
    05-05-2013 11:12 AM
  12. dc9super80's Avatar
    The One could be as pretty as ever, but Samsung is Samsung, they sell because they have alot of marketing power, their previous customers are pleased and comfortable, new customers have heard about previous devices, and the inertia of their market presence. HTC cannot compete with then, at least not this year. If they market the One correctly this year, maybe they can start the ball rolling. Samsung effectively started that since the GS2.
    Kevin OQuinn and jroc like this.
    05-05-2013 11:19 AM
  13. lou61166's Avatar
    For HTC, its not for lack of support. I've been to 2 corporate locations this weekend getting cases/returning cases for my review and both stores have islands in the middle with HTC One displays.

    For the record, both locations sold out of the S4 on launch day. They still have plenty HTC Ones available. Cant say I'm surprised.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    You work for Samsung,why can't people just enjoy there phones instead of acting like there phone is god like,thus the word fanboy exists,the S4 is a nice phone but so is other phones,i have come to expect no phone is perfect,and Samsung phones are not immune to this,this my phone is better then yours is getting old.
    scorpiodsu, Topgonzo, qnet and 3 others like this.
    05-05-2013 11:20 AM
  14. Eric Kane's Avatar
    You work for Samsung,why can't people just enjoy there phones instead of acting like there phone is god like,thus the word fanboy exists,the S4 is a nice phone but so is other phones,i have come to expect no phone is perfect,and Samsung phones are not immune to this,this my phone is better then yours is getting old.
    No. Just pointing out facts. Sorry if that bothers you. I didn't say anything about which phone is better.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    05-05-2013 11:23 AM
  15. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    You work for Samsung,why can't people just enjoy there phones instead of acting like there phone is god like,thus the word fanboy exists,the S4 is a nice phone but so is other phones,i have come to expect no phone is perfect,and Samsung phones are not immune to this,this my phone is better then yours is getting old.
    It got old before it even came to the smartphone world.

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    05-05-2013 11:23 AM
  16. lou61166's Avatar
    No. Just pointing out facts. Sorry if that bothers you. I didn't say anything about which phone is better.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    Fact and opinions are 2 different things,yes the i agree the S4 will outsell the One,but beyond that it becomes an opinion,just like when Apple releases the next Iphone it will outsell the S4,but does that make it a better phone, most on these forums would dis agree.
    scorpiodsu, qnet and chesalaam like this.
    05-05-2013 11:29 AM
  17. bembol's Avatar
    Marketing. Samsung owns it.

    I can't recall the last time I saw an hTc commercial on Television, the One has been out for a few weeks and still haven't seen one. LOL

    This was the problem with RIM/BlackBerry in the past, now I'm seeing more commercials for the Q10 & Z10 than Apple's iPhone.
    05-05-2013 11:34 AM
  18. Eric Kane's Avatar
    Fact and opinions are 2 different things,yes the i agree the S4 will outsell the One,but beyond that it becomes an opinion,just like when Apple releases the next Iphone it will outsell the S4,but does that make it a better phone, most on these forums would dis agree.
    Did anyone actually read my post? I said out of a really small sample size (2 stores), there's been good carrier support for the One. At those stores, the S4 was sold out while the One still had plenty available.

    What part of that means the One is inferior? I'm pointing out an experience at just 2 stores.



    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    jroc likes this.
    05-05-2013 11:41 AM
  19. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Marketing. Samsung owns it.

    I can't recall the last time I saw an hTc commercial on Television, the One has been out for a few weeks and still haven't seen one. LOL

    This was the problem with RIM/BlackBerry in the past, now I'm seeing more commercials for the Q10 & Z10 than Apple's iPhone.
    Well RIM's problem was more about lack of noticeable improvements in their phones but that's definitely been fixed and I like the commercials plus the phones themselves.

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    05-05-2013 11:47 AM
  20. lou61166's Avatar
    Did anyone actually read my post? I said out of a really small sample size (2 stores), there's been good carrier support for the One. At those stores, the S4 was sold out while the One still had plenty available.

    What part of that means the One is inferior? I'm pointing out an experience at just 2 stores.


    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    I am basing my replies on other threads you have responded to,talking how god like the S4 is,and if someones opinion varies from yours you get all crazy,i am here for opinions on wether to get the S4 once Verizon gets it with my upgrade in August,not to fight with a one sided opinion,i could care less what phone outsells what,my needs come first.
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    05-05-2013 11:49 AM
  21. Eric Kane's Avatar
    I am basing my replies on other threads you have responded to,talking how god like the S4 is,and if someones opinion varies from yours you get all crazy,i am here for opinions on wether to get the S4 once Verizon gets it with my upgrade in August,not to fight with a one sided opinion,i could care less what phone outsells what,my needs come first.
    Never said the S4 is god-like. I just refuse to let people who don't even own the phone sway people like you, prospective buyers, from buying the phone based off of fallacies or over exaggerations. That's it.

    Ask me anything you'd like about either version of the phone (Exynos 5 or Snapdragon) and I'll be objective with you.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    05-05-2013 11:55 AM
  22. lou61166's Avatar
    Never said the S4 is god-like. I just refuse to let people who don't even own the phone sway people like you, prospective buyers, from buying the phone based off of fallacies or over exaggerations. That's it.

    Ask me anything you'd like about either version of the phone (Exynos 5 or Snapdragon) and I'll be objective with you.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    Okay Thank You for the offer i will ask just waiting till i can walk into a Verizon store and see it for myself,i can tell you i had an S3 but i work outside for 8+hours a day and had to return it cause the screen was to dim,i could care less what it is built with plastic,metal wood glass etc,the radios,cell,data,wifi,bluetooth,GPS are very important to me,Camera,is not that important,do not need a ton of storage,and battery life is of low priority..
    05-05-2013 12:09 PM
  23. Eric Kane's Avatar
    Okay Thank You for the offer i will ask just waiting till i can walk into a Verizon store and see it for myself,i can tell you i had an S3 but i work outside for 8+hours a day and had to return it cause the screen was to dim,i could care less what it is built with plastic,metal wood glass etc,the radios,cell,data,wifi,bluetooth,GPS are very important to me,Camera,is not that important,do not need a ton of storage,and battery life is of low priority..
    If screen brightness outside is important to you to that degree, an LCD screen would be a better choice. They're typically better in direct sunlight. The S4 is an improvement over the S3 in terms of usability in daylight, but not to the extent an LCD screen would provide.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    05-05-2013 12:11 PM
  24. jokout1's Avatar
    You work for Samsung,why can't people just enjoy there phones instead of acting like there phone is god like,thus the word fanboy exists,the S4 is a nice phone but so is other phones,i have come to expect no phone is perfect,and Samsung phones are not immune to this,this my phone is better then yours is getting old.
    WOW, this coming from an HTC owner in a GS4 forum with a history of ripping on Samsung! Again, WOW!

    OK, enough of that...HTC can't blame Samsung for thier own marketing woes! They have made several bad decisions over the last several years that have cost them in market share AND mind share! You simply can not build a brand if every year you start over again and then dilute that drand by rebranding your products for every carrier! HTCs willingness to make diferent handsets for every carrier with seperate firmware for each has cost them the opportunity to compete head to head with Samsung and Apple! When HTC manufactures a phone for Verison, and it is all Verison branded and HTC is lucky to get their name on the box, you don't build brand loyalty with the common customer and sadly, this customer only realizes it's an HTC when they have problems! NOT good marketing! Add to this the fact that the industry as a whole now percieves HTC as a "second tier" company and lowed them on credit rating and shipping priorities...witnessed in the recent launch delays of the One due to parts shortages! Not from me but from Wall Street!
    You may not like Samsung, but you have to respect the marketing prowess! they learned early on during the original Galaxy S era, that multiple branding is a negitive and from that point pushed carriers to single branding with increasing limits on firmware modification starting with the Galaxy S2 on thru the present GS4! They also leveraged this single increasingly popular brand to get their phones on the vast majority of carriers world-wide! An accomplishment that not even Apple can claim with their demanding carrier plans!


    Cheers
    TylerLucas and jroc like this.
    05-05-2013 12:21 PM
  25. lou61166's Avatar
    If screen brightness outside is important to you to that degree, an LCD screen would be a better choice. They're typically better in direct sunlight. The S4 is an improvement over the S3 in terms of usability in daylight, but not to the extent an LCD screen would provide.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
    I was scared of that,not like i can go with the one seeing Verizon does not offer it,i currently use the DNA and Rezound,the DNA fits my needs with the screen,the rezound is not as good outdoors,but come August i do want to upgrade the rezound,so unless something from HTC gets announced for Verizon,the S4 would be the best option,Thanks for the advice.
    05-05-2013 12:22 PM
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