05-11-2013 08:03 AM
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  1. gabbott's Avatar
    There is also the issue of those that use google music and/or youtube with prefetch caching (don't believe those will get cached on an sd card)
    05-07-2013 01:49 PM
  2. Statusnone's Avatar
    There is also the issue of those that use google music and/or youtube with prefetch caching (don't believe those will get cached on an sd card)
    They don't. I exclusively use Google Music and when my collection is 10GB and usable data is 8.8GB... Well hence why I returned mine and am patiently awaiting Friday.
    05-07-2013 01:53 PM
  3. rushmore's Avatar
    The general premise of the op has me concerned. Seems we are being asked a question based on the op's own perspective of a standard and imposition.

    It is real simple. Carriers are offering a model with 8 to 9 gb if space for the user. If you do not use data heavy apps, be happy with your 16gb model. That said, please do not impose your standard of lighter app use to everyone else

    Seems some carriers are trying to get away with just that and lying (at this stage that is what it is) about putting apps in sd cards. They are charging what the 32gb S3 went for (not At&t) and hoping that between them and Samsung acquiescing with the sd card BS will get them some extra margin.

    All it will take them is the two week return window to get away with it. Yes, they do think this way.
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    05-07-2013 02:02 PM
  4. FeFiFoJessica's Avatar
    Isn't that kinda what AT&T initially said? Now AT&T will be selling the 32Gb models on May 10th.

    AT&T's 32GB Galaxy S4 lands May 10 for $249 | Android Central
    Oh, didn't know that. I'm not interested in any 32 or 64gb models but don't get me wrong-- I do hope Sprint gets them because there is definitely demand.... but Sprint masters in "tomfoolery."
    05-07-2013 02:45 PM
  5. Distrack's Avatar
    EA's Need for Speed Most Wanted = 2 gig
    Gameloft Asphal 7 = 1.6 Gig
    Modern Combat 4 = 1.9Gig
    Let's Golf 3 = 851Meg

    Most Gameloft games, racing games and FPS games are huge.

    I dont understand why people try to defend Samsung. The 32Gb and a 64Gb model should have been available since day one.
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    05-07-2013 02:52 PM
  6. Distrack's Avatar
    They don't. I exclusively use Google Music and when my collection is 10GB and usable data is 8.8GB... Well hence why I returned mine and am patiently awaiting Friday.
    All my music (20Gb) is on the SDcard. Why cant you do that ?
    05-07-2013 02:54 PM
  7. Distrack's Avatar
    I travel a lot so I put my FLAC music in my S3 and now S4 sometimes I wanna watch my favorite 1080p movie on my phone so yeah I had an microSD card and no I wouldn't complain on internal memory issue on S3 and I'm not planing to start now with my S4.
    internal memory issue has nothing to do with media files, its all about apps.
    05-07-2013 02:56 PM
  8. Eric Kane's Avatar
    EA's Need for Speed Most Wanted = 2 gig
    Gameloft Asphal 7 = 1.6 Gig
    Moder Combat 4 = 1.9Gig
    Let's Golf 3 = 851Meg

    Most Gameloft games, racing games and FPS games are huge.

    I dont understand why people try to defend Samsung. The 32Gb and a 64Gb model should have been available since day one.
    Because Samsung isn't to blame. They made it clear they had the higher capacity storage versions available. It's up to the carriers to purchase them and then offer them to the consumer. If there's not a lot of demand for the 32GB or 64GB version, they won't offer it. AT&T decided to take a chance and offer the higher storage. Verizon tried it last year with the S3 and I guarantee they took a loss on it.

    Before anyone says anything about demand, please understand that the majority of the people that buy these phones are not people who visit forums or even know they exist. So I would guess there isn't a large demand for them, but AT&T decided to take a gamble. More power to them.
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    05-07-2013 03:42 PM
  9. rushmore's Avatar
    I presumed the same thing until rather than Samsung stating they are offering larger sizes to their partners, they stated that you can add an sd card and problem solved.

    Their hands due to this very ridiculous and very misleading statement are just as dirty with BS.

    BTW, the 32gb was ten to fifteen percent of the mix. Now that the trend of apps is larger, no data to sd option and less storage in the 16, you can probably add ten points to that range.
    05-07-2013 03:47 PM
  10. Eric Kane's Avatar
    I presumed the same thing until rather than Samsung stating they are offering larger sizes to their partners, they stated that your can add an sd card and problem solved.

    Their hands due to this very ridiculous and very misleading statement are just as dirty with BS.
    So what is their response supposed to be?

    "Well, we don't care if we throw our carrier partners under the bus, but they won't offer them because they don't want to lose money."?

    You have a phone to use, they have a business to run. They did what they're supposed to do.
    05-07-2013 03:49 PM
  11. rushmore's Avatar
    So what is their response supposed to be?

    "Well, we don't care if we throw our carrier partners under the bus, but they won't offer them because they don't want to lose money."?

    You have a phone to use, they have a business to run. They did what they're supposed to do.
    I hardly think misleading your customers is any due course for a sincere and amicable resolution.


    Added:

    That said, that is probably why they essentially lied. From an objective standpoint, that is what they have done.
    05-07-2013 03:51 PM
  12. Eric Kane's Avatar
    I hardly think misleading your customers is any due course for a sincere and amicable resolution.
    Neither is straining your relationship with the carriers that make you the most money. AT&T taking the plunge shows their commitment to offer what they believe their customers want. It also shows, considering they aren't advertising it as an exclusive, that it is up to the carriers to decide to offer this or not.
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    05-07-2013 03:54 PM
  13. Distrack's Avatar
    Because Samsung isn't to blame. They made it clear they had the higher capacity storage versions available. It's up to the carriers to purchase them and then offer them to the consumer. If there's not a lot of demand for the 32GB or 64GB version, they won't offer it. AT&T decided to take a chance and offer the higher storage. Verizon tried it last year with the S3 and I guarantee they took a loss on it.

    Before anyone says anything about demand, please understand that the majority of the people that buy these phones are not people who visit forums or even know they exist. So I would guess there isn't a large demand for them, but AT&T decided to take a gamble. More power to them.
    doesnt make any sense since I can find the 32Gb versions of many other phones since the day they came out
    05-07-2013 04:07 PM
  14. oat77's Avatar
    So my Galaxy S4 has 8 GBs left. Does this mean I can put 8 gigs worth of apps on there? I had the Atrix 4g and that had about 10 gigs left but it said only 2 were available for apps.
    So 8 would be more than enough for me, if its the full 8 I can use as I please
    05-07-2013 04:36 PM
  15. Aquila's Avatar
    Put the music and videos on a SD card like many have stated.... Saves you quite a bit of space.

    Sent from my ATT Galaxy S4
    More to the point, what's the cost to Samsung just to use nothing but 64GB? $18 extra dollars per device? Subtract that from the cost of engineering 31 different models of the phone and my guess is it'd be more profitable just to have one device that has 64GB only, one kind of processor and works on every network (with minor carrier tweaking for the proprietary bits).
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    05-07-2013 05:04 PM
  16. eyecon82's Avatar
    What are you putting on your phone? I have quite a bit of apps and I'm not nearly close to filling up my internal memory! I agree that Samsung shouldn't be able to pass this off as a 16gb model but they can so oh well. Serious question tho, what are you guys putting on your phone? Haha

    Sent from my ATT Galaxy S4
    I have the offline wiki app and that takes up 6gb of space and you can't move it to external sd

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Android Central Forums
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    05-07-2013 05:09 PM
  17. standog100's Avatar
    I ve got 111 apps and I had to un install some of my paid games like NFS MOSTWANTED just to conserve space. ..am not getting the s4 until Samsung make the 32 or 64gb available

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
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    05-07-2013 05:24 PM
  18. AndyS's Avatar
    At&t is the only carrier that is selling the 64gb one.. It's fair to say they are going to sell the 32gb s4 but as far as sprint I don't see it happening and there has been no announcement

    Sent from my HTCONE using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
    They sell the 32GB S3. Why not the 32GB S4 once supply is available? Media needs aren't going backwards, especially as phone screen resolutions increase across the market, and media is made to take advantage of that higher resolution and it eats up more memory.

    I wish google hadn't changed the way app moving worked post 2.3. Didn't fully understand that, having come from an EVO 4G. Yes, I have a Nexus 7, but there's no SD card expansion so it never crossed my mind.

    Seriously considering returning my S4 and waiting a couple of weeks to see what shakes out.
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    05-07-2013 05:28 PM
  19. gozirra's Avatar
    I may want a V8 engine. You may be satisfied with a 4 cylinder. So be it.
    Except the phone comes with a V8 engine, but they filled three of the cylinders with concrete.
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    05-07-2013 05:30 PM
  20. Wilbur's Avatar
    Neither is straining your relationship with the carriers that make you the most money. AT&T taking the plunge shows their commitment to offer what they believe their customers want. It also shows, considering they aren't advertising it as an exclusive, that it is up to the carriers to decide to offer this or not.
    What?? The carriers offer what is needed to sell their merchandise, plain and simple. The public comments from AT&T and Samsung regarding the internal storage amount is disingenuous at best bordering on out right lying to their customers. I'll bet many buyers of the 16Gb models are scratching their heads now thinking they got snookered with the initial carrier statements. Just three weeks after telling the public they won't be selling 32Gb models AT&T is selling them in three days.

    Hopefully our discussion of disappointment on these forums had something to do with that.
    05-07-2013 07:03 PM
  21. rushmore's Avatar
    Except the phone comes with a V8 engine, but they filled three of the cylinders with concrete.
    Or they made a Ferrari with a three gallon tank. Some people don't like driving fast or going far, but others want to drive real fast and real far. Depends on your use
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    05-07-2013 09:52 PM
  22. zhelf's Avatar
    I think the carriers are more to blame with the phones with lack of sufficient storage either 16gb internal storage and some with no removable media trying to push more people into cloud services and we know Google wants that. But why would the carriers want that simple. They want to push you into higher tiered data and since you just paid all this money for a phone your going to want to use it so you will opt for more data in some cases. Yes some have unlimited data but not everyone does so the carriers will offer the smaller versions first for the techy people who love to be early adopters then drop the 32 or 64 models so you will hopefully add a line to get the device.
    05-08-2013 04:32 AM
  23. TeritorialDemon's Avatar
    First of all......WOW! I am content with 8GB storage. Music, photos, and videos are on my SD card. All my downloaded apps and small games (6 total games) are on the phone. I don't see a need for "Gaming" on a phone, period. If I want to Game then I'll turn on my XBOX 360 and play on the big screen. I don't go to my friends' houses and play on my phone like probably most people do. I actually go to hang out. Complaining about storage on a phone is assinine. Do you not realize that with more storage comes less battery? How? Let me see.......well, you're going to need a better processor and ram to handle the larger storage.....meaning what? Ohhhhh...........more battery usage. Wait a minute...........you hear that? Complaints about poor battery performance. Never ending cycle. Here's a suggestion. Solar Powered smartphones! That would solve all the problems right there. No need to keep the battery performance in mind. Just make everything faster, smoother, better....our battery will not DIE!

    All I'm saying is don't complain when it is in fact YOU who put yourself in this situation.
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    05-08-2013 06:14 AM
  24. Topgonzo's Avatar
    First of all......WOW! I am content with 8GB storage. Music, photos, and videos are on my SD card. All my downloaded apps and small games (6 total games) are on the phone. I don't see a need for "Gaming" on a phone, period. If I want to Game then I'll turn on my XBOX 360 and play on the big screen. I don't go to my friends' houses and play on my phone like probably most people do. I actually go to hang out. Complaining about storage on a phone is assinine. Do you not realize that with more storage comes less battery? How? Let me see.......well, you're going to need a better processor and ram to handle the larger storage.....meaning what? Ohhhhh...........more battery usage. Wait a minute...........you hear that? Complaints about poor battery performance. Never ending cycle. Here's a suggestion. Solar Powered smartphones! That would solve all the problems right there. No need to keep the battery performance in mind. Just make everything faster, smoother, better....our battery will not DIE!

    All I'm saying is don't complain when it is in fact YOU who put yourself in this situation.
    You just said something I've thought but not said before..if I play games then I use my PlayStation 3 or x box..using your phone to play games is a dumb idea

    Sent from my HTCONE using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
    05-08-2013 07:03 AM
  25. JasW's Avatar
    All my downloaded apps and small games (6 total games) are on the phone. I don't see a need for "Gaming" on a phone, period. If I want to Game then I'll turn on my XBOX 360 and play on the big screen. I don't go to my friends' houses and play on my phone like probably most people do. I actually go to hang out. Complaining about storage on a phone is assinine. Do you not realize that with more storage comes less battery? How? Let me see.......well, you're going to need a better processor and ram to handle the larger storage.....meaning what? Ohhhhh...........more battery usage. Wait a minute...........you hear that? Complaints about poor battery performance. Never ending cycle. Here's a suggestion. Solar Powered smartphones! That would solve all the problems right there. No need to keep the battery performance in mind. Just make everything faster, smoother, better....our battery will not DIE!

    All I'm saying is don't complain when it is in fact YOU who put yourself in this situation.
    Well, they may be heavy duty multi-platform gamers, but they're entitled, even if people like you or me have no interest. However, they are trashing Samsung, AT&T, whoever, for something 95% of S4 owners don't give a flying f-ck about -- not being able to store as many giant first person shooter and racing games on their mobile device as they might like. Or being led down the garden path by AT&T because it has not been communicative enough in letting them know when the 32GB S4 is coming out, purportedly because it wants to trick them and unload the 16GB models first. Whatever.
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    05-08-2013 07:06 AM
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