S4 costs more than iPhone 5 to build

[xlDeMoNiClx]

The whole point is they are selling old technology at new prices.

Everything they are calling new is old

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They also call it their own idea.

 

[anon5664829]

They also call it their own idea.

Apples ideas are not old. Do Not Disturb mode was added to the iPhone months before the blocking mode on Samsung. S voice is also a clone of Siri(and worse at that)

 

[return_0]

Apples ideas are not old. Do Not Disturb mode was added to the iPhone months before the blocking mode on Samsung. S voice is also a clone of Siri(and worse at that)

Apple did not make Siri. They acquired it.

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[anon5664829]

Apple did not make Siri. They acquired it.

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I know, but did that stop Samsung from copying?

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[The Hustleman]

Apples ideas are not old. Do Not Disturb mode was added to the iPhone months before the blocking mode on Samsung. S voice is also a clone of Siri(and worse at that)

There were apps that performed that function on Android long before apple had it. It just worked better and! Customizable on Android

S voice DOES suck, i disabled it. No need for it, especially with Google Now

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[anon5664829]

There were apps that performed that function on Android long before apple had it. It just worked better and! Customizable on Android

S voice DOES suck, i disabled it. No need for it, especially with Google Now

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Yeah, I love google Now. It's much better then siri for information but Siri IMHO is better as a voice assistant. It allows you to open apps instantly(Now takes 20 seconds)music plays faster and for me Siri is just as accurate as Now.

 

[The Hustleman]

Yeah, I love google Now. It's much better then siri for information but Siri IMHO is better as a voice assistant. It allows you to open apps instantly(Now takes 20 seconds)music plays faster and for me Siri is just as accurate as Now.

I agree with you on everything except being just as accurate.

I HATE trying to talk to siri because it never hears what I'm saying the first time, on the other hand I rarely ever had to repeat myself with Google Now.

I love how you can throw a random number at it and ask for the square root and it gets it almost instantly

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[return_0]

Siri is just as accurate as Now.

Not even close for me or anyone I know.

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[anon5664829]

See, that's my experiences with it. I've had it be very accurate.

 

[anon5664829]

I agree with you on everything except being just as accurate.

I HATE trying to talk to siri because it never hears what I'm saying the first time, on the other hand I rarely ever had to repeat myself with Google Now.

I love how you can throw a random number at it and ask for the square root and it gets it almost instantly

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Actually I kinda agree it isn't as accurate as google now but Siri is a better voice assistant over now, Now is awesome for info but not for performing phone functoins.

 

[The Hustleman]

Actually I kinda agree it isn't as accurate as google now but Siri is a better voice assistant over now, Now is awesome for info but not for performing phone functoins.

I think it's just as good at doing it but that lag from the instruction to actually doing it, siri has it beat.

I think that lag is intentional to make sure it heard the right command.

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[Fairclough]

Siri is not new.... my Sony Ericsson k800i had voice command is 2004! Nothing new!

 

[bergeronjc]

So much for Samsung making cheap phones.

Galaxy S4 costs Samsung $237 to build, more than Apple iPhone 5

That is an educated guess as there is no possible way they could know just what type of bulk discount Samsung gets for ordering tens of millions of parts. My guess is the actual cost is at least $50 less.

Also the iPhone 5 is half a year old so the tech in it is older on general than what is on the S4.

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[anon5664829]

I think it's just as good at doing it but that lag from the instruction to actually doing it, siri has it beat.

I think that lag is intentional to make sure it heard the right command.

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Yeah it is, but still annoying

 

[anon5664829]

Siri is not new.... my Sony Ericsson k800i had voice command is 2004! Nothing new!

Yeah but not as well. and it's not just a voice service it is an assistant.

 

[The Hustleman]

That is an educated guess as there is no possible way they could know just what type of bulk discount Samsung gets for ordering tens of millions of parts. My guess is the actual cost is at least $50 less.

Also the iPhone 5 is half a year old so the tech in it is older on general than what is on the S4.

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In all honesty it wasn't very high tech when it was released.

Everything on it had been done already

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[Kevin OQuinn]

In all honesty it wasn't very high tech when it was released.

Everything on it had been done already

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All new one of any kind display and processor. Probably not cheap.

Things having been done before might not have a huge impact on cost. Especially when I comes to internal parts.

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[JHBThree]

All new one of any kind display and processor. Probably not cheap.

Things having been done before might not have a huge impact on cost. Especially when I comes to internal parts.

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Especially when they're 100% custom and exclusive to Apple.

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[anon5664829]

In all honesty it wasn't very high tech when it was released.

Everything on it had been done already

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Apple designs there own processors, ever stopped to think how expensive that would be?
And the A6 is a very powerful chip.

 

[abazigal]

Apple completely covers the cost of designing IOS, as well as the costs of all their services (icloud, mail, siri, maps, imessage, photo stream), none of which brings in revenue, but cost money to maintain. Samsung simply modifies stock Android (likely cheaper since Android comes free to begin with) and simply needs to direct users to Google's cloud services, none of which cost Samsung anything.

As mentioned above, designing their own processors completely in-house is not cheap either. It may not boast an impressive 8-cores, but remains a very capable piece of silicon in its own right. All these would simply not be possible without the iphone being priced the way it is.

Another main benefit Apple enjoys is incredible economies of scale. For example, using the same iphone design every 2 years lets them save a fortune on not having to replace their manufacturing equipment or research on an entirely new design ever so often), which is what will enable them to remain economically viable in the long run. What Samsung is doing now is trying to rake in market share by aggressively revamping their phones ever so often and flooding the market with all sorts of designs. I personally feel that is not a very financially sustainable model, not least because their products don't stay in the market long enough to reap the benefits of economies of scale from design and manufacturing.

Does anything still believe that the costs of manufacturing a smartphone (or any other product, really) involves just the raw materials? I suppose the blueprints just dropped out of the sky then?