05-20-2013 02:37 AM
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  1. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    or was it the other way around? It just surprises me that Adobe would be removed from these phones, especially since the s4 has a big beautiful screen. it almost feels like it went to waste.
    05-14-2013 09:57 PM
  2. planoman's Avatar
    you mean with flash?
    05-14-2013 10:01 PM
  3. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    or was it the other way around? It just surprises me that Adobe would be removed from these phones, especially since the s4 has a big beautiful screen. it almost feels like it went to waste.
    I think it was Adobe that cut the ties. They outright announced that there would be no support after 4.0.x.
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    05-14-2013 10:07 PM
  4. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    you mean with flash?
    yes. It surprises me that with phones being this advanced, Adobe would cut ties with android or android would cut ties with Adobe and stop using flash player. I wonder if it was android who wanted flash support to stop.
    05-14-2013 10:07 PM
  5. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    I think it was Adobe that cut the ties. They outright announced that there would be no support after 4.0.x.
    but I find it strange that Adobe would still release newer versions of Adobe flash player for android under the archives section. it sure would have been nice to have it in our s4 phones without having to use a third party browser.
    05-14-2013 10:12 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    Because Flash on Android wasn't a good experience.
    05-14-2013 10:16 PM
  7. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    I have to disagree with that. On my s3, I was able to watch any movie or tv show I wanted online. Also some YouTube videos are not available on mobile so flash player worked great with those videos. Without flash player, you pretty much crippled the browsing experience.
    05-14-2013 10:21 PM
  8. jackdubl's Avatar
    Because Flash on Android wasn't a good experience.
    Maybe that was true with older phones with slower processors. But now with these fast dual and quad core processors, flash works better on my phone than my slow-as-heck laptop.

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    05-14-2013 10:30 PM
  9. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    Maybe that was true with older phones with slower processors. But now with these fast dual and quad core processors, flash works better on my phone than my slow-as-heck laptop.

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    That's exactly what ithink. On my Evo 4G, it was choppy at times, but on my s2 and s3, it worked great.
    05-14-2013 10:45 PM
  10. patelkedar91's Avatar
    Yeah I would disagree as well.
    Flash worked well on my Evo and Evo3D. If maybe they continued support phones like Nexus 4, One, S4, DNA, Note II, etc. would be rocking some awesome flash playback.

    They started in the Pre days.. and that went haywire... cause the Pre had such a small screen it was hardly worth it.
    05-14-2013 10:46 PM
  11. JHBThree's Avatar
    Maybe that was true with older phones with slower processors. But now with these fast dual and quad core processors, flash works better on my phone than my slow-as-heck laptop.

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    It may have worked, but it never worked WELL. It was a subpar experience all around, with poor performance. There's a reason adobe killed it.

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    05-14-2013 11:09 PM
  12. JHBThree's Avatar
    but I find it strange that Adobe would still release newer versions of Adobe flash player for android under the archives section. it sure would have been nice to have it in our s4 phones without having to use a third party browser.
    They are releasing security fixes, not new versions. Adobe stopped all development (besides security fixes) for mobile flash. It is part of a bigger strategic plan that will ultimately result in the death of flash.

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    05-14-2013 11:12 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    I'm just glad that this thread points the finger at Adobe, not Google, not Apple for the death of Flash on mobile.
    05-15-2013 12:05 AM
  14. BlastTyrant's Avatar
    I'm using Firefox beta w/ flash. It works perfectly, and Firefox runs circles around Chrome. My wife was a diehard Chrome user. Within 5 minutes of finally getting her to try Firefox she deleted Chrome from her phone, N7 and laptop.

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    05-15-2013 01:31 AM
  15. GMJeff's Avatar
    Actually, Google as well as Apple had a lot to do with it by accepting html5 standards instead of flash.

    Once the ball was rolling, Adobe saw the handwriting on the wall. They couldn't make a version of flash that would match up with html5's slender memory usage. Security issues were a whole other story as well.

    Flash was, and always will be, a resource hog. It could crash a quad core desktop with multiple gigabytes of ram.

    Myself for one, say goodbye and good riddance. I can do without flash video. Some people may enjoy it, but not me.

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    05-15-2013 01:39 AM
  16. Jaimeg123prmt's Avatar
    I'm using Firefox beta w/ flash. It works perfectly, and Firefox runs circles around Chrome. My wife was a diehard Chrome user. Within 5 minutes of finally getting her to try Firefox she deleted Chrome from her phone, N7 and laptop.

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    what's the difference beween firefox and the beta version?
    05-15-2013 05:40 PM
  17. HNNNNNGHHH's Avatar
    That's exactly what ithink. On my Evo 4G, it was choppy at times, but on my s2 and s3, it worked great.
    Same here, but flash performance on the Galaxy S2 may vary. The original Exynos-powered international Galaxy S2 ran flash with no issues (same case with the other Galaxy S2 variants in the US besides T-Mobile's), while the Qualcomm-equipped T-Mobile Galaxy S2 ran flash smoothly with a few stutters in between. (The latter runs flash great with no stutter on an AOSP ROM such as CM10, however.)

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    05-15-2013 05:58 PM
  18. HNNNNNGHHH's Avatar
    It's more likely that Google was the one to cut ties with adobe when it comes to flash as a result of rising interest and usage of HTML5 in websites, but if it was really Adobe who severed the ties, the fact that the company still releases archived versions of flash to android devices doesn't help in alleviating the issue, even if adobe announced that 4.0.x devices and up will no longer have support.

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    05-15-2013 06:03 PM
  19. Ry's Avatar
    It's more likely that Google was the one to cut ties with adobe when it comes to flash as a result of rising interest and usage of HTML5 in websites, but if it was really Adobe who severed the ties, the fact that the company still releases archived versions of flash to android devices doesn't help in alleviating the issue, even if adobe announced that 4.0.x devices and up will no longer have support.

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    Adobe stopped developing for it. Google didn't tell Adobe to stop.
    05-15-2013 06:19 PM
  20. apache2's Avatar
    Good riddance adobe flash :-)
    Just how I feel.

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    05-15-2013 09:07 PM
  21. JHBThree's Avatar
    It's more likely that Google was the one to cut ties with adobe when it comes to flash as a result of rising interest and usage of HTML5 in websites, but if it was really Adobe who severed the ties, the fact that the company still releases archived versions of flash to android devices doesn't help in alleviating the issue, even if adobe announced that 4.0.x devices and up will no longer have support.

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    Please pay more attention to the posts that precede yours. That has already been addressed.

    Adobe no longer develops flash for mobile. The team that built it is gone. All adobe does is release security updates.

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    05-15-2013 10:52 PM
  22. return_0's Avatar
    I'm using Firefox beta w/ flash. It works perfectly, and Firefox runs circles around Chrome. My wife was a diehard Chrome user. Within 5 minutes of finally getting her to try Firefox she deleted Chrome from her phone, N7 and laptop.

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    Laptop? Chrome is still by far the best PC browser experience IMO...

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    05-15-2013 10:55 PM
  23. ThatGuyLurkin's Avatar
    Laptop? Chrome is still by gar the best PC browser experience IMO...

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    I find it to be depending on the PC 80% of the time.

    I use Firefox for downloading, and Chrome for everyday use though. It seems as if Firefox downloads around 6MB/s for me, as to where Chrome seems to fall far behind.

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    05-15-2013 11:06 PM
  24. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Because Flash on Android wasn't a good experience.
    Exactly. Bloated, slow used too many resources and a security issue. Same as on desktop. I never notice flash only sites these days that I can't see on my iOS or Android devices.
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    05-15-2013 11:54 PM
  25. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Google, Apple, Microsoft, and many other companies wanted Flash dead and for good reason.

    Actually, Google as well as Apple had a lot to do with it by accepting html5 standards instead of flash.

    Once the ball was rolling, Adobe saw the handwriting on the wall. They couldn't make a version of flash that would match up with html5's slender memory usage. Security issues were a whole other story as well.

    Flash was, and always will be, a resource hog. It could crash a quad core desktop with multiple gigabytes of ram.

    Myself for one, say goodbye and good riddance. I can do without flash video. Some people may enjoy it, but not me.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
    05-15-2013 11:55 PM
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