05-25-2013 04:21 PM
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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    I'm sorry, but people and keep opening threads like these and I'm still not biting. I still think the Gs4 is overall the best android phone on the market, even with it's flaws.
    I'd agree that it's in the top 5, perhaps one of the top 3.



    Let me go ahead and say, then, that the Nexus 4 is BY FAR the best Android phone in existence.
    Also one of the top 5, also probably one of the top 3.



    How my comment opinionated when sales back it up? 10 million people have already agreed with me in a short amount of time.
    If "best" is measured by sales, Samsung is the best Android OEM. I'm not sure best should be measured by sales. What's the best car in the world? It's probably very expensive and one of the worst selling cars every year. Sales are a measure relative marketing value. One could say, "what's the best car in the $25,000-$55,000 range that has 4 doors and a V6 or better engine?" and the "best one" probably still isn't selling the best, because of cost, etc. Also, two different customers, because of features, cost, etc. will probably choose two different cars as being the "best", and depending on their budget, still either or both might not purchase the "best". I like saying the S4 is very good and it's in the top 5.

    If we treat it as a top 5, with HTC One, LG O Pro, Sammy S4, Nexus 4 and the 5th place changes, Note 2, Sony X, etc., then pretty much everyone's favorite is in that list.
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    05-20-2013 01:16 AM
  2. DioramaMaker's Avatar
    Chrome on iOS basically is Safari with a different look. On Android Chrome is way better because it's the native app.

    Google Voice (requires download, but not 3rd party) will accomplish this. It will keep recordings, transcripts in the apps and e-mail transcripts to you, if you wish.
    -In regards to Chrome, +1, agreed

    -With this Google Voice does this tie straight into my phone service like the AT&T one?
    05-20-2013 01:34 AM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    -In regards to Chrome, +1, agreed

    -With this Google Voice does this tie straight into my phone service like the AT&T one?
    It's a weird procedure, but basically the way I did it was I got a Google Voice phone number (free) and I only use it for voicemail. Basically Google intercepts or has my voicemail forwarded (seamlessly to callers) to the voicemailbox for the other number. Someone calls my regular phone number and if they choose to leave a message, they never know they were forwarded. Voicemails show up as recordings and transcripts in the app and if you choose, a transcript with a link to the recording can be e-mailed to you. All of this is free.
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    05-20-2013 01:37 AM
  4. DioramaMaker's Avatar
    It's a weird procedure, but basically the way I did it was I got a Google Voice phone number (free) and I only use it for voicemail. Basically Google intercepts or has my voicemail forwarded (seamlessly to callers) to the voicemailbox for the other number. Someone calls my regular phone number and if they choose to leave a message, they never know they were forwarded. Voicemails show up as recordings and transcripts in the app and if you choose, a transcript with a link to the recording can be e-mailed to you. All of this is free.
    Sounds like a Rube Goldberg machine
    Does this take data to do? I have my AT&T one set up but there are complaints that it needs 4g LTE to download even, and I only have 4G in most places where I'm at. I got to experience using LTE for the first time in Dallas yesterday. I can't confirm or deny if that's the case yet, and it it is theis Google voice get up might not be so bad.

    And by the way sir, I love the Assassin's Creed getup Huge fan myself as well!
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    05-20-2013 01:42 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    Sounds like a Rube Goldberg machine
    Does this take data to do? I have my AT&T one set up but there are complaints that it needs 4g LTE to download even, and I only have 4G in most places where I'm at. I got to experience using LTE for the first time in Dallas yesterday. I can't confirm or deny if that's the case yet, and it it is theis Google voice get up might not be so bad.

    And by the way sir, I love the Assassin's Creed getup Huge fan myself as well!
    It uses data to sync the app and if you access your e-mail via data, but doesn't have to be a specific kind of data, it's just Google's sync/push. The transcription is all happening on Google's end and the results are sent to you via sync.
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    05-20-2013 01:47 AM
  6. DioramaMaker's Avatar
    It uses data to sync the app and if you access your e-mail via data, but doesn't have to be a specific kind of data, it's just Google's sync/push. The transcription is all happening on Google's end and the results are sent to you via sync.
    Alrighty, I'll look into that, sounds much more promising than the AT&T one I've got.
    05-20-2013 02:08 AM
  7. cckgz4's Avatar
    I think you should try a different device. I love my phone better than my iPhone 5. Never thought I would ever say that

    Sent from my LG-E970 using Tapatalk 2
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    05-20-2013 02:47 AM
  8. gramamoose's Avatar
    You should have tried the HTC One...
    Much less laggy! I own some iProducts and I would put its smoothness in the same ballpark...
    No gimmicks ui. That was a big reason for me to choose the One over the GS4. I knew I wouldn't like the hover options so why get the phone given that's one of their big features. I had a Nexus device before this and I don't miss vanilla android at all! Sense 5 is beautifully simplistic!...
    Build quality like an iProduct!

    Posted via Android Central App
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    05-20-2013 02:59 AM
  9. lou61166's Avatar
    How my comment opinionated when sales back it up? 10 million people have already agreed with me in a short amount of time.

    Posted from my amazing white Galaxy S4
    Is this why you think it's the best because of sales figures,WOW,in that theory the Iphone would be the best,sales figures mean nothing and should never mean anything to the rational consumer.
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    05-20-2013 03:03 AM
  10. monsieurms's Avatar
    To address a couple of issues, I am with T-Mobile. They have visual voicemail pre-installed, if not native Android. I love Firefox on Android--more than I even like it on the desktop, actually. I love the hover - preview feature.

    But if anyone doesn't, I understand. There is no question Samsung's approach is to have a billion things available. Many won't want this or that--group play, bleh--but you'll find something you'll love. Apple does simplicity and smooth, and they do it very well. It is a well integrated system. Android offers options and customization opportunities, which has many benefits, but is harder to learn and make the best use of. And then Samsung takes that philosophy and doubles down on it. I understand why some might think that's a bad thing. There are times when it is almost funny seeing all these esoteric things that I may never use. I set up an Asus tablet recently that was largely plain vanilla Android, and it was way easier to get used to and set up. But my view has always been, no one is forcing me to have the features. If I don't want them, I don't use them. If I do, it's nice to have. And I will wind up using some.

    For me, the deal breakers are the really important things---screen size, removable batteries, SD card slots. Apple's "this is what you get" philosophy is a major fail for those things. The rest is details by comparison.
    05-20-2013 06:29 AM
  11. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    First, a general question to the S4 owners...is the "lag" really an issue with this device? I ask as a current S3 owner considering an upgrade, but I find it concerning that so many folks comment on lag within the OS, especially considering how awesomely smooth the S3 is. Seems like they've take a step backwards in that department if the S4 has lag issues.

    To the OP: Agree with you to a point about "gimmicky" features, but you have to remember this isn't a "Google" Android phone, a.k.a. Nexus, but rather Samsung's flagship...and those gimmicks are kinda their game. Some are freakin' awesome, some are kinda neat, and others are kinda worthless, but none the less, the Galaxy line does have a lot more bells and whistles than the standard Nexus phones. Granted, Apple keeps iOS proprietary as they run a different business model, but it would be similar to a situation where some manufacturer made a phone with iOS, but also added a bunch of other stuff on top of it, promising additional features. If that manufacturer didn't execute these features properly and the device sucked, it wouldn't be a fault of iOS, since the OS obviously runs quite well as intended on Apple's own devices. (For the record, I don't think Samsung's application of Touchwiz applications were poorly executed, just giving an example).

    I'd like to disagree with you about the browser comment, but it's been too long since I've used an iOS device to really make a fair comparison. For me, the sync feature of Chrome is what I really love. It's great that all my bookmarks are available across all platforms, and I love being able to go to my computer, and pull up the sites I already have open on my other devices, which comes in very handy when you discover something interesting on your phone that you want to read up on in more detail from your PC.

    EDIT: Also, regarding email, I personally find that for GMail accounts, the Gmail app is the best way to go, since it's fully synced to your account, however it is VERY POSSIBLE to access GMail using the general email app as well, you just have to make sure that POP/IMAP access is enabled for your GMail account (done through "settings" on your computer browser).


    -In regards to Chrome, +1, agreed

    -With this Google Voice does this tie straight into my phone service like the AT&T one?
    It's a weird procedure, but basically the way I did it was I got a Google Voice phone number (free) and I only use it for voicemail. Basically Google intercepts or has my voicemail forwarded (seamlessly to callers) to the voicemailbox for the other number. Someone calls my regular phone number and if they choose to leave a message, they never know they were forwarded. Voicemails show up as recordings and transcripts in the app and if you choose, a transcript with a link to the recording can be e-mailed to you. All of this is free.
    It's really not that complicated at all, and to answer "DioramaMaker's" question, the short answer is: yes, it ties straight into your phone service like the AT&T one. I don't know the specific steps (because I'm on Verizon), but I know that it does work...a quick Google search should point you in the right direction of how to do it. Yes, you have to setup your AT&T account to "forward" all unanswered calls to the GV service rather than send them to AT&T's voicemail service, but that's a one-time thing. Not only does it provide a great VVM service you can use on your phone, but you can also have it send you an email when you get a voice message and you can access your VM mailbox at any time on your computer. This is great for folks like me who don't always have access to their cell phones while at work (I work in a "secure" office with zero cell reception), because I can still respond to voicemail messages in a timely fashion. Keep in mind as well, that the setup is tied to your AT&T account, so even if you switch phones, all you have to do is install the app to retrieve all your messages and continue using the service.
    05-20-2013 08:19 AM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    Tied to your Google account.... Not att.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
    05-20-2013 08:24 AM
  13. madlaw1071's Avatar
    I have the S3, S4 and the One. Lag is a non-factor on the S4. Samsung released on OTA update for the S4 which all but eliminated lag for most of the people that experienced any in the first place.
    05-20-2013 08:25 AM
  14. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Let's keep the discussion civil.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
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    05-20-2013 08:35 AM
  15. return_0's Avatar
    How my comment opinionated when sales back it up? 10 million people have already agreed with me in a short amount of time.

    Posted from my amazing white Galaxy S4
    I'll never understand how you can think sales determine a phone's quality.

    So I guess, as someone else said, that by that logic, a Kia is better than a Lamborghini.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
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    05-20-2013 08:50 AM
  16. r2t's Avatar
    I switched from iPhone 4 to Note 2 and now I am on S4. What really got me hooked to Android in general is ability to install custom ROM. I am addicted to changing my ROM all the time. I own my S4 for about 2 weeks now and I've been changing custom ROMs none stop. With those, I'm able to have a pretty smooth experience with my S4.

    Sent from my GT-I9500
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    05-20-2013 09:02 AM
  17. monsieurms's Avatar
    First, a general question to the S4 owners...is the "lag" really an issue with this device? I ask as a current S3 owner considering an upgrade, but I find it concerning that so many folks comment on lag within the OS, especially considering how awesomely smooth the S3 is. Seems like they've take a step backwards in that department if the S4 has lag issues..
    I don't understand that complaint. Post #39 may have indicated some updates and why this originally was commented upon.

    Now, I haven't played much with iPhones, so I won't comment on that comparison by the OP, but I sure haven't found much if any lag. In comparing it to the phone I just ditched (the HTC Sensation 4g), it is lightning fast. For instance, I have thousands of contacts. On the HTC, when, sometimes, I would go to pull up my address book, it would groan and sometimes more or less stall. There were times when it would take over a minute to load and populate the fields. With the S4--I press Contacts. 1 Mississippi, it's up. Similarly, Amazon Kindle would take a long while to load on Android with the Sensation, here it syncs fast and loads fast.

    I've only had 2 Android phones. This is blazing fast by comparison.

    Most articles that have run benchmarks say so, too. This month's PC MAG says (Dan Costa): "powered by a best-in-breed Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor...." The article itself says: "The Galaxy S4 is the fastest smartphone we've benchmarked so far, thanks to its 1.9GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor. ... The Snapdragon torched the processor -dependent AnTuTu benchmark, but it also did unusually well on Basemark OS, which launches real applications, and on the GLBenchmark graphics benchmark."...I topped off performance testing with the hideously heavy Need for Speed: Most Wanted game, which ran like butter....Spectacular speed results carried over to network testing, too."
    05-20-2013 09:22 AM
  18. blair.harrington's Avatar
    So a week ago I lost my iPhone 5, after days of recovering I decided to get a another iPhone 5. When I was in the store I played with the Galaxy S4 and I decided to get it instead of the iPhone 5 . So for those thinking of switching here is my 2 cents:
    Cons:
    1. I am sure is not Android OS fault but the Galaxy s4 is very Laggy, even after doing all of the suggestions around here. I really miss the IOS simplicity and smoothness.
    2. Gimmick features, I have to say even at the store I disabled many of them, hover over the screen"Really" why?
    3. None of the browser are even close to Safari, sorry but even chrome on the iPhone is better
    4. Unusable pre-installed software, If i don't want it let me remove it...what happened to the "free to do anything"
    5. Notifications - really just at the top bar? and why so many icons of the same kind. I really like the on the face here you go iPhone provides.
    6. No visual voice mail...had to download third party app
    7.Not sure if its the Samsung crappy GUI over the OS but apps are just not as smooth compare to the same app in IOS...Why? this things hardware specs are so powerful...
    8. I cant set Gmail as exchange in the mail app...WTF? i have to use the gmail app just to get gmails...ok this one is just crappy...really google?
    9 Samsung gets in the way too much i think, will prefer just vanilla android for sure

    Pros:
    1. Screen size: so much better for typing, no more triple letters when texting
    2. Free to do "almost anything" is kind of weird but I like experimentation...we will see
    3. remotely install apps from the play store on line...hell yeah!
    4. Sync any music...no matter how you got it...
    5. its Google so all Google software stuff works...most of the time
    6. many other features for sure, still adapting...

    I am sure many fandroids here will defend their choice, but again this is just my personal experience...
    Is the phone a good phone...well take the lagginess away and hell yeah...we will see if any future updates can fix this.

    Peace........
    I'm of the belief that anyone coming from an iPhone that wants to try an Android device should opt for the HTC One. It has an IPS panel and looks very much like a larger iPhone 5 (chamfered edges, etc).

    OP I had the Optimus G Pro for 3 days. Returned it and went back to my iPhone 5. The G Pro is amazing but was far too large and heavy for me in the end. To address some of your items....

    * Habit browser is an amazing choice. I love iOS Safari but found Habit a very valid alternative. It's pretty new and not widely known.

    * Any gimmicky feature you find on the S4 does not need to be used. Not sure that's a con. Just something you don't have to use.

    * The lack of notification badges by default on Mail apps is really bizarre IMO. It's especially jarring when you are used to getting notifications badges on iOS. There is however a simple solution (Nova Launcher Prime + Telsa Unread).

    * Lack of visual voicemail by default is lame for sure. There are 3rd party solutions.

    * Android apps overall are not as good/smooth as iOS versions. The USA Today app for example still involved way too many taps versus the iOS version that once was like that but has been updated for a much easier experience. Weather Channel app is simply not as good on Android. Comcast app requires you to jump into the browser to look at your DVR recording (and scrolling within the app was choppy versus smooth on iOS). It's small details like that that you have to swallow at times on Android.

    * Google should create a iTunes like program to manually manage music. Google Music is awesome but streaming is not an ideal solution for anybody. I personally had a nightmare experience trying to use iSyncr and DoubleTwist. Others may not have the same issues.

    * Gmail app is hideous compared to native Apple Mail client.

    Overall I still like Android a great deal and would be open to leaving iOS in the future. I'm curious to see what WWDC has to offer. Apple desperately needs to release a 5" iPhone. OP if you end up not liking your S4 you should consider the HTC One.
    05-20-2013 11:44 AM
  19. jarettp's Avatar
    i came from iphone 4 and really like my galaxy 3. but i am using my iphone to pick up spotify on wireless off my laptop to play on my surround sound. remember back when you had a recordplayer and lp records. Anyway i still receive sms on my simcardless iphone ( fron iphone users obviously ) but dont receive same on my galaxy. How do i overcome this. I have turned of icloud on the iphone. Thanks.
    Paul
    on the iphone, under message options, you can dis-associate your number. also, somewhere on apples website you can tell them to forget your info from their database. if all else fails, hop on google bro.
    05-20-2013 12:23 PM
  20. garublador's Avatar
    I'll start by saying that this is a pretty good list of differences between the two platforms. Having used both as well I'll make some comments.

    1. As others have said that's likely to be fixed and doesn't appear to be universal.

    2. But they can be disabled. Even if one or two are useful they're probably worth having. It's also brought up in every single review for the S4 so it shouldn't be a surprise. I'd rather have features I don't use than ones I want but can't have.

    3. I was going to hold off on this until I actually got my S4 to see for myself, but I found an article suggesting that the reason for this is that Apple has done a much better job of incorporating HTML5 into Safari.

    Where The iPhone 5 Still Bests The Samsung S4 - Forbes

    Apparently you aren't the only one who thinks that Safari works better as a mobile browser.

    4. This is annoying, too and it's been a complaint for about as long as Android has been worth talking about. I thought Verizon would drop their VZ Navagator from Android after they realized that Google Maps was better, but it's still there on my Droid X2. I'm curious as to why they thought spending time developing that was a good idea, but I digress.

    5. Don't be surprised if this moves to your Pro's category. Having the OS tell you what notifications you have all in one place rather than having to search them out is generally regarded as a good thing. For apps where you mostly open them in response to some notification it's nice because you don't have to go find the app to open it. The notification shade lets you open the app from there so the most needed apps are always the easiest to get to. For example, I only rarely want to compose a fresh email on my phone but I check it often so having a shortcut to it on my home screen doesn't make much sense. I'd have to do that if the only notifications I got were from the icon itself. This way it's only quickly accessible if I need it and hidden if I don't.

    6. Android tents to give you good apps for many functions but doesn't try to make super excellent apps for stuff where not everyone agrees on the best implementation. So if you don't really care, the stock apps are good or non existent. They leave the really good, but different from one another, implementations to third party developers. The visual voice mail falls into that category. It's annoying coming from iOS because it's not immediately apparent how to do it. However, if you have a specific idea of how it should work then you're more likely to find exactly what you want in Android than you are in iOS. It's a pro and a con depending on the functionality you want.

    7. This sounds like it's related to 1.

    8. No comment because I've never tried to do that. As I suggested earlier, I'm not a very email heavy individual.

    9. This sounds more like a reason not to pick iOS. If you don't like the way Apple does it there's nothing you can do about a lot of functions in iOS. With Android there are several ways around it.

    I'll only address some of the Pros:

    1. Choice in hardware is one of the biggest advantages of Android over iOS. Your OS can "just work" as much as it wants, but it can't give the phone physical attributes it doesn't have. If you happen to want the physical attributes (most of which are very good) of an iPhone then you're in luck, though.

    2. I've been using Android phones since a month after the Droid came to Verizon and I haven't even scratched the surface of how close to everything "almost" really means. You can adjust your phone initially to make it as close to iOS as you want or you can continually tinker. There are videos of people controlling their homes and TV's using their phones and voice commands and only like $300 worth of hardware (try pricing out similar iOS compatible systems) or emulating S4 features on older phones (wave to answer or some makeshift NFC). It's both a blessing and a curse becasue while being able to do anything is nice, it usually takes "work" (though some find it fun) to accomplish most of it.
    05-20-2013 12:30 PM
  21. Johnny Roberts's Avatar
    I'm sitting here with an s4 and a One side by side. Both devices are crazy fast and navigate everything very well. The One is a hair snappier, but not even enough to notice unless you have both devices next to each other. No lags on either phone.

    Tha lag thing is now a buzz word being used to try to deter potential buyers. A shame really, because as most ACTUAL galaxy owners will tell you, the s4 is a phone you do not want to miss.
    05-20-2013 01:31 PM
  22. madlaw1071's Avatar
    I'm sitting here with an s4 and a One side by side. Both devices are crazy fast and navigate everything very well. The One is a hair snappier, but not even enough to notice unless you have both devices next to each other. No lags on either phone.

    Tha lag thing is now a buzz word being used to try to deter potential buyers. A shame really, because as most ACTUAL galaxy owners will tell you, the s4 is a phone you do not want to miss.
    Fortunate are the few that have both units
    05-20-2013 01:46 PM
  23. maryjane2300's Avatar
    I'll never understand how you can think sales determine a phone's quality.

    So I guess, as someone else said, that by that logic, a Kia is better than a Lamborghini.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Now your talking apples and oranges. People buy more kias because they're cheaper than a lambo. When the s4 is priced at the same or really close to every other phone and still sells way more it shoes the demand for it and like I said, sales back it.

    Posted from my amazing white Galaxy S4
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    05-20-2013 01:54 PM
  24. maryjane2300's Avatar
    I'm of the belief that anyone coming from an iPhone that wants to try an Android device should opt for the HTC One. It has an IPS panel and looks very much like a larger iPhone 5 (chamfered edges, etc).

    OP I had the Optimus G Pro for 3 days. Returned it and went back to my iPhone 5. The G Pro is amazing but was far too large and heavy for me in the end. To address some of your items....

    * Habit browser is an amazing choice. I love iOS Safari but found Habit a very valid alternative. It's pretty new and not widely known.

    * Any gimmicky feature you find on the S4 does not need to be used. Not sure that's a con. Just something you don't have to use.

    * The lack of notification badges by default on Mail apps is really bizarre IMO. It's especially jarring when you are used to getting notifications badges on iOS. There is however a simple solution (Nova Launcher Prime + Telsa Unread).

    * Lack of visual voicemail by default is lame for sure. There are 3rd party solutions.

    * Android apps overall are not as good/smooth as iOS versions. The USA Today app for example still involved way too many taps versus the iOS version that once was like that but has been updated for a much easier experience. Weather Channel app is simply not as good on Android. Comcast app requires you to jump into the browser to look at your DVR recording (and scrolling within the app was choppy versus smooth on iOS). It's small details like that that you have to swallow at times on Android.

    * Google should create a iTunes like program to manually manage music. Google Music is awesome but streaming is not an ideal solution for anybody. I personally had a nightmare experience trying to use iSyncr and DoubleTwist. Others may not have the same issues.

    * Gmail app is hideous compared to native Apple Mail client.

    Overall I still like Android a great deal and would be open to leaving iOS in the future. I'm curious to see what WWDC has to offer. Apple desperately needs to release a 5" iPhone. OP if you end up not liking your S4 you should consider the HTC One.
    Had the htc one. Didn't like it, that's why I got the s4. If I got any other phone besides the s4 it'd be an iPhone or nexus.

    Posted from my amazing white Galaxy S4
    05-20-2013 01:55 PM
  25. The WheelMan's Avatar
    IOS has Google Now and Google Maps... and from what I heard their versions are better than the Android versions
    I have an S3 and an iPad, for whatever reason, Google Now on the S3 is showing me cards for local weather as well as all the local events in my area. Google Now on the iPad is only showing me local weather.
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    05-20-2013 02:21 PM
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