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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    I beg the difference with you. It's not Android per se, is the phone manufacturer, in this case HTC is the one with no sd and fixed battery.
    On the SD card thing, it's Android. Batteries are a design thing, as far as I know Google doesn't care whether or not the battery is removable or not.
    05-24-2013 08:30 PM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    Here's my helpful tip of the day: the Ignore function.

    If there's a member whose posts you'd rather not read, click their avatar, select forum profile, then hit add to ignore list. This feature keeps that member's posts from being displayed in the thread.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
    Best post.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    05-24-2013 08:41 PM
  3. omniusovermind's Avatar
    The S4 LAGS the N7 lag. I have had them both, admittidly the update that came out fixed some of the S4 lag but it is STILL DEFINITELY there.
    Add me to the growing list of people who know about the nexus 7 lag issues. Sorry JD but your most recent post in this thread was way off
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    05-24-2013 09:00 PM
  4. anon5664829's Avatar
    Add me to the growing list of people who know about the nexus 7 lag issues. Sorry JD but your most recent post in this thread was way off
    I've added the guy to my ignore list because is an ignorant person. This isn't an insult its the truth.
    Ry and TomsAndroid like this.
    05-24-2013 09:07 PM
  5. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Best post.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    If only we all could do this :P
    05-24-2013 09:44 PM
  6. badbrad17's Avatar
    Best post.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    Don't worry Ry I won't ignore you. Lol.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    05-24-2013 10:22 PM
  7. badbrad17's Avatar
    If only we all could do this :P
    Perks of Being awesome Jerry. No option to ignore.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    05-24-2013 10:24 PM
  8. STARGATE's Avatar
    Best post.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    I agree! :beer:

    Sent from my Photon 4G that Stupid Motorola will not upgrade to ICS or any other newer form of Android because they're a bunch of stupid lying bastards (and deserve to go to h e ll!) using Android Central Forums
    05-25-2013 12:46 AM
  9. Johnny Roberts's Avatar
    Yes! Makes reading this thread a lot less drama filled! Thanks!
    05-25-2013 01:22 AM
  10. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Let's avoid discussing other members here and keep this thread on-topic. If you believe a post is inappropriate, feel free to hit the report button.

    Sent from my SGSIII
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    05-25-2013 01:30 AM
  11. Mellimel22's Avatar
    I knew you would pull the defect card. I got the Nexus 7 as a pre order along with 4 other people. We got it as a gift for being the grooms man for my best friend. Every single one of us agrees that it just is not a smooth and fast device. My wife is not tech savy she felt it was sluggish and not that fast when I first got it ( this was before we got our gs3's and was coming from a galaxy s1 ) 3 of us are stock, 2 of us are modded. Mine also had a kernel that over clocked the GPU and it still lagged. I went back to stock and it still lagged, so I guess all 5 of us had defective units huh?

    Everyone else here also agrees that the Nexus 7 was laggy. You seem to be the only one who thinks otherwise. I also don't doubt the GS4 lags, but if you thought the nexus 7 was smooth then I'm sure you would think the GS4 is smooth as well.
    I never saw a laggy nexus 7 and I had two and played with 4. M

    Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Nexus rockin 4.2.2 using Tapatalk 2
    05-25-2013 03:44 AM
  12. TomsAndroid's Avatar
    I never saw a laggy nexus 7 and I had two and played with 4. M

    Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Nexus rockin 4.2.2 using Tapatalk 2
    Lucky!
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    05-25-2013 04:14 AM
  13. Dreamliner330's Avatar
    I posted about the Nexus 7 lag about a month after its release. But somehow, I was 'wrong' about that just like I'm 'wrong' about the S4 lag.

    It's fine if it does not bother you, but don't pretend its not there.

    I'm still hopeful for a GE S4 ROM for the Verizon S4 or a Moto X phone or a better HTC device to hit Verizon.
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    05-25-2013 12:40 PM
  14. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    • iOS has always given 1st priority to screen elements and user interaction such as touching the screen while Android treats everything equally. Also from the beginning iOS used the gpu to render UI elements and Android didn't.
    • Project Butter improved Vsync timing to increase the frame rate and make it consistent, initiated triple buffering to sync the gpu, cpu and screen, and improved touch latency. Touch latency was probably the biggest issue. I think it also gave more priority to UI processes but not as much as iOS does. But I'd have to look through some developer docs to be sure of that. This really revamped a lot of things about Android internals in a major way but they can only go so far without breaking a lot of apps because of design decisions made early on in Android. Such as running bytecode in a JVM....at least the jvm has gotten much more efficient but it is no substitute for compiled apps and never will be anymore than any JVM can be.
    • I'd say it works on Nexus devices pretty well but I've still seen significant lag on Nexus 7 and 10 and some on my Nexus 4 but pretty minimal
    • Heavy overlays cause lag like the latest version of Touchwiz which I'm sure could also use some optimization and integration with the core OS.
    • Well written apps following developer guidelines are also important.
    • It doesn't help that Google and the manufacturers let the carriers load a gross amount of bloatware on their phones either.
    • WebOS was based on the Linux kernel so of course it has os multi-tasking to deal with kernel and process interaction etc but did not extend that to the applications much if at all.
    • I don't agree with you at all about iPhone lag, especially a lot of lag. The only time I've seen that is a new version of the os on a really old phone or a misbehaving app and that has been few and far between.
    The kernel was heavily modified for webOS. It does not kill tasks or apps automatically to free up memory. Instead, you'd get "too many cards", the phone would freak out, and you'd have to do a battery pull and not use your phone for an hour while it rebooted. :-P

    Posted via Android Central App
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    05-25-2013 02:00 PM
  15. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    I quoted your entire post this time. It made absolutely no difference. your meaning was exactly the same.

    What is the point of reading threads like this if you are indifferent to other people's opinions? Obviously people are saying more than "your phone sucks' here...they are doing specific comparisons, making claims about performance, ect...

    I do not even mean this as an insult, but why would you waste your time reading other people's opinions if you are really that indifferent to them?
    EDIT: post deleted. Found the ignore function.
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    05-28-2013 10:01 AM
  16. JeffDenver's Avatar
    I knew you would pull the defect card.
    Not sure what else to tell you...I am not seeing the same thing you are. What is different about mine?

    Everyone else here also agrees that the Nexus 7 was laggy. You seem to be the only one who thinks otherwise.
    Why is my unit special?

    I also don't doubt the GS4 lags, but if you thought the nexus 7 was smooth then I'm sure you would think the GS4 is smooth as well.
    No I do not.

    It's not awful. If I had an S4 I could live with it. But it does not feel as smooth as the N4 or N7 to me...not remotely. It is fast in the sense that stuff launches and transitions quickly. It is laggy in the sense that the UI stutters and drops frames. This may or may not be due to touchwiz...IMO though, it is Touchwiz that is the problem.
    05-31-2013 05:26 PM
  17. STARGATE's Avatar
    Probably, but there's no denying that many, many people are happy with they're GS4s.
    I'll keep on researching and if I choose the GS4 and don't like it I always have 14 days to make up my mind and get the HTC One or viceversa! :beer:

    Sent from my Photon 4G that Stupid Motorola will not upgrade to ICS or any other newer form of Android because they're a bunch of stupid lying bastards (and deserve to go to h e ll!) using Android Central Forums
    06-12-2013 06:25 PM
  18. RenoD2010's Avatar
    That article is from 2011. From what I've read, Project Butter is supposed to have fixed the lag.

    Though in my experience the only android phones that don't lag are the Nexus ones and the new HTC One (due to a lean Sense). TouchWiz on my S4 is a horrific bloated POS. Hate it. The lag is driving me nuts. Can't wait until Google releases their S4 so I can flash to that.
    This phone has virtually no lag. LG skin is very light. I don't even know what it is called. This phone is only inches away from the ONE and the S4. It would take very little effort from LG to match those two phones.

    As for iOS 7, I would be very surprised if running on an iPhone 5, it was leaps and bounds ahead of quad core handsets running stock 4.2.2.

    Sent from my LG-E970 using AC Forums mobile app
    06-12-2013 06:48 PM
  19. jasonb's Avatar
    I've had mine for 2 weeks, and the only lag I've experienced is in the stock web browser. Other than that it seems very responsive. Way more responsive than my old iPhone 4.
    06-12-2013 07:31 PM
  20. DS1331's Avatar
    I hate to say it as well but just coming from an iPhone 5 it definitely seemed smoother even after I jailbroke it and added a bunch of crap to it. It wasn't faster just smoother it feels like the touch screen is different then android the way they make the phone. The one doesn't lag or stutter really just the way you move between the screens feels like it's made differently then the iPhone


    Sent from my HTC One using AC Forums mobile app
    06-12-2013 08:00 PM
  21. RenoD2010's Avatar
    I hate to say it as well but just coming from an iPhone 5 it definitely seemed smoother even after I jailbroke it and added a bunch of crap to it. It wasn't faster just smoother it feels like the touch screen is different then android the way they make the phone. The one doesn't lag or stutter really just the way you move between the screens feels like it's made differently then the iPhone


    Sent from my HTC One using AC Forums mobile app
    I think you nailed it. My wife's 4s is quite fluid. For most part so I'd this one. I think I would have to spend a full day with her phone to really know. My issue is I just don't like iOS now that I've grown accustomed to what I can do with Android.

    Sent from my LG-E970 using AC Forums mobile app
    06-13-2013 03:17 PM
  22. charkzilla20's Avatar
    4.2.2 on my Nexus 7 is a LOT more smoother and stabler than any ios device I've used.
    The n7 is also almost a year old
    06-13-2013 03:22 PM
  23. STARGATE's Avatar
    All the Operating Systems are different, and they supposed to act different. And that's why there are choices out there for all of us. Of course now that ios is copying from others it might feel familiar to some people.

    If I'm very clever, and I'm more than clever, I'm brilliant! I might just save the World, or rip it apart!
    06-19-2013 07:09 AM
  24. tinamouI's Avatar
    The Nexus 4 has no lag plain and simple, non, It is smoother than the iPhone in my expereince. And I can't imagine the S4 being that terrible because I used the Samsung Galaxy S, before my Nexus 4 and it ran just fine, not the smmothest OS but even it wasn't as laggy as you describe your S4 to be, so you either have a faulty S4 or you are exaggerating. Because I've played around with a friends S4 and it was really smooth, not as smooth as the Nexus 4, but what is?
    08-10-2013 11:40 AM
  25. Raptor007's Avatar
    Apple's idea of multi-tasking is not real multi-tasking and iOS will always be behind Android in terms of useful features and customization. If you want a platform that stays stagnant for 7 years get an iPhone, if you want something that constantly innovates and pushes ahead get an Android phone. I have owned countless iOS and Android devices so I can speak from real experience and unlike iFan sites can actually have an opinion that is not colored by those rose colored glasses they view apple with.
    08-10-2013 11:54 AM
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