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  1. tohio's Avatar
    The announcement of 10 million S4s sold came from the CEO of Samsung. The announcement of 5 million HTC Ones sold came from an unnamed source. Now another unnamed HTC unnamed source says that 5 million figure is not an official figure. Here's the article:

    HTC One 5 million sales figure is not official : The Droid Guy

    And before the flame throwers are lighted, I am providing this article for those who might be concerned about purchasing a phone from a company that might be inflating their sales figures to stay alive. On the other hand, the official figure could be more than 5 million. Time will tell.
    05-27-2013 04:35 PM
  2. ffejjj's Avatar
    If I were the only one to purchase the One I'd still get it.

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    05-27-2013 04:47 PM
  3. Cattails_r_Edible's Avatar
    Least HTC doesn't pay people to trash the competitions products

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    05-27-2013 04:49 PM
  4. DS1331's Avatar
    Yeah Agreed with the above comment I would still buy it who cares about sales this is the best phone iv ever had


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    05-27-2013 04:50 PM
  5. tohio's Avatar
    Pretty funny that the first people to reply to this thread are all HTC One owners. What are you guys all doing it a Samsung Galaxy S4 forum (and yes of course you have every right to be here but why?)
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    05-27-2013 04:53 PM
  6. ffejjj's Avatar
    Just because it's a post about the htc one. We are the ones that bought it.

    Not just that, I always surf all the forums that pertain to Android. Even though we have different devices there are always great ideas across the board. Setting tweaks, cool apps, screen setups... Always some positive things to learn no matter what device

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    05-27-2013 05:12 PM
  7. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    What was the point of posting this anyway? We all already know the information that you posted. It's a serious question. You had to know the types of responses you would get. Especially after your first reply.

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    05-27-2013 05:21 PM
  8. charlee08's Avatar
    WHO CARES!?!?

    HTC One is what I wanted and it's what I got. I'm happy with my decision. I don't care if Samsung sold a billion of just a hundred. Same goes for the HTC.

    Sent from my HTC One
    05-27-2013 05:39 PM
  9. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    Really though. I care about how well the devices are made and how well they do in real-world scenarios. Regardless of my personal opinions of the currently market-defining devices, I don't pass judgment on sales numbers, much less on numbers that more or may not be accurate. I've had a couple friends ask me about the HTC One and Galaxy S4 in the same conversation recently, and it makes me smile to see recognition for both devices in the general consumer base.

    If we're going to discuss sales numbers and performance in this thread, make it as much of a constructive and productive discussion as possible. Anything less and the thread will inevitably be closed. Nobody likes that.
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    05-27-2013 05:50 PM
  10. EMY92's Avatar
    I hope that HTC does well, more competition spurs innovation which benefits all of us.
    05-27-2013 06:47 PM
  11. zog1977's Avatar
    They are both good devices
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    05-27-2013 06:50 PM
  12. Gator352's Avatar
    Pretty funny that the first people to reply to this thread are all HTC One owners. What are you guys all doing it a Samsung Galaxy S4 forum (and yes of course you have every right to be here but why?)
    Because I own the One and an S4.....
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    05-27-2013 07:20 PM
  13. tohio's Avatar
    What was the point of posting this anyway? We all already know the information that you posted. It's a serious question. You had to know the types of responses you would get. Especially after your first reply.

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    Unless you are being facetious please read the original post, especially after the part that says "I am providing this article for..." There are a multitude of posts on this site stating that the poster is trying to decide between one phone or another. Information about whether a phone company will be viable after a purchase is pretty important to know. I don't believe I requested any replies to my post. There are approximately 270 views of the thread in less than 2 hours. I am pretty sure some of those views were by people who are deciding what phone to buy. Knowing if a company one might buy a phone from is possibly fudging their sales figures could help in deciding who would remain a going concern. You say people already know the info on the site I posted reference unofficial numbers. Does that information appear on AC? Actually I'm not sure why you posted your comment. It added nothing to the discussion and could be seen as inviting hostile comments. And yes, I know you can post anything you want (within the rules of the site). Just my opinion that it wasn't helpful.

    BTW, ffejjj explained succinctly why he was pursuing the S4 site and I liked his comment. So the only really negative comment in this thread seems to me to be yours.
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    05-27-2013 07:20 PM
  14. tohio's Avatar
    Because I own the One and an S4.....
    But you weren't one of the first to reply But now that you are here. If it turns out that HTC was fudging the sales figures upward (for whatever reason) would it cause you to worry about the viability of the Company?
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    05-27-2013 07:23 PM
  15. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    This thread was perceived so negatively because of the subject matter. The ongoing feud between s4 owners and one owners is getting out of hand.
    That being said, my personal viewpoint on this is that a companies business practices rarely has an effect on their sales if the product is a premium product.

    For example, millions of people buy apple products yearly even though Steve jobs was known to be a vindictive, concept thieving, liar. Samsung still sells millions of devices after being publically exposed of paying people to smear the HTC one online. And, if true, the HTC one is still selling millions, regardless of if HTC has lied about their numbers. Its all a pointless argument. People will buy the device they want as long as they know it works and will continue to be supported.

    As someone very new to the technologically aware community, it is rare that a consumer shows interest in the manufacter game of politics.

    It is about as likely to find a morally correct corporation as it is to find a morally correct politician.

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    05-27-2013 07:29 PM
  16. tohio's Avatar
    This thread was perceived so negatively because of the subject matter. The ongoing feud between s4 owners and one owners is getting out of hand.
    That being said, my personal viewpoint on this is that a companies business practices rarely has an effect on their sales if the product is a premium product.

    For example, millions of people buy apple products yearly even though Steve jobs was known to be a vindictive, concept thieving, liar. Samsung still sells millions of devices after being publically exposed of paying people to smear the HTC one online. And, if true, the HTC one is still selling millions, regardless of if HTC has lied about their numbers. Its all a pointless argument. People will buy the device they want as long as they know it works and will continue to be supported.

    As someone very new to the technologically aware community, it is rare that a consumer shows interest in the manufacter game of politics.

    It is about as likely to find a morally correct corporation as it is to find a morally correct politician.

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    Jennifer, where exactly is the negativity? People are saying that they love their phone and would buy it regardless of sales figures. I see no personal attacks, no charges of trolling. Please be specific because I honestly don't see it.

    EDIT: If you are talking about Kevin's post then never mind.
    05-27-2013 07:38 PM
  17. Gator352's Avatar
    But you weren't one of the first to reply But now that you are here. If it turns out that HTC was fudging the sales figures upward (for whatever reason) would it cause you to worry about the viability of the Company?
    Um. No. If they were announcing that they were closing its doors I would have to think long and hard. But HTC isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Infact, they are releasing a Google edition and possibly a larger HTC One into the market. So honestly, they could say that they sold 50 million units but only sold 10, I would still buy it if I liked it...but I don't like the One...I love it!
    05-27-2013 07:38 PM
  18. Farish's Avatar
    For example, millions of people buy apple products yearly even though Steve jobs was known to be a vindictive, concept thieving, liar.
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    These kind of statements are why I cover myself in holy watered blessed by Steve Jobs before reading this site on my iMac or Macbook.
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    05-27-2013 07:41 PM
  19. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    Jennifer, where exactly is the negativity? People are saying that they love their phone and would buy it regardless of sales figures. I see no personal attacks, no charges of trolling. Please be specific because I honestly don't see it.
    I did not accuse any one of trolling or of being negative. I said the thread has been percieved negatively. This can be proven by the first five posts of HTC ONE owners feeling the need to defend their purchase of the device, and your asking why there are HTC ONE owners in the s4 forums, although this thread is clearly about both devices. I am not charging anyone of anything, nor posting on my behalf as a moderator. I am posting strictly out of my own interest in the subject. Because, first and foremost, I am a member of this forum as well.

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    05-27-2013 07:43 PM
  20. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    These kind of statements are why I cover myself in holy watered blessed by Steve Jobs before reading this site on my iMac or Macbook.
    I've seen this post before, its pretty funny. :thumbup: the apple line of products are all spectacular products, that I have been a consumer of. But doesn't mean I support the companies practices.

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    05-27-2013 07:44 PM
  21. Farish's Avatar
    I've seen this post before, its pretty funny. :thumbup: the apple line of products are all spectacular products, that I have been a consumer of. But doesn't mean I support the companies practices.

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    The whole lawsuit thing is stupid when it comes to patents. That is for a whole other topic though.
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    05-27-2013 07:48 PM
  22. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Unless you are being facetious please read the original post, especially after the part that says "I am providing this article for..." There are a multitude of posts on this site stating that the poster is trying to decide between one phone or another. Information about whether a phone company will be viable after a purchase is pretty important to know. I don't believe I requested any replies to my post. There are approximately 270 views of the thread in less than 2 hours. I am pretty sure some of those views were by people who are deciding what phone to buy. Knowing if a company one might buy a phone from is possibly fudging their sales figures could help in deciding who would remain a going concern. You say people already know the info on the site I posted reference unofficial numbers. Does that information appear on AC? Actually I'm not sure why you posted your comment. It added nothing to the discussion and could be seen as inviting hostile comments. And yes, I know you can post anything you want (within the rules of the site). Just my opinion that it wasn't helpful.

    BTW, ffejjj explained succinctly why he was pursuing the S4 site and I liked his comment. So the only really negative comment in this thread seems to me to be yours.
    I stand by my original comment. Those of us that have been here a while know that you're an avid Samsung defender. Nothing wrong with it. Don't get mad (and point out the fact that) HTC defenders come in here and do the same thing you're doing.

    You're implying that HTC is being shady (there's that word again lol) without actually using the word shady. You're not dumb, I'm not dumb. People reading this aren't dumb. We know what's going on.

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    05-27-2013 07:52 PM
  23. tohio's Avatar
    I stand by my original comment. Those of us that have been here a while know that you're an avid Samsung defender. Nothing wrong with it. Don't get mad (and point out the fact that) HTC defenders come in here and do the same thing you're doing.

    You're implying that HTC is being shady (there's that word again lol) without actually using the word shady. You're not dumb, I'm not dumb. People reading this aren't dumb. We know what's going on.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Kevin I stated that the official numbers might even be bigger. You did say that the information I posted was already known, does the information I posted appear on this site?

    While we are on the topic: as a potential buyer of a smart phone would it be of interest to you to know that a manufacturer was possibly exaggerating their sales numbers? Especially if the manufacturer was financially troubled and having personnel defections. Wouldn't the survivability of a manufacturer of a product you wanted to buy, that may require warranty service and certainly require updates, be of interest to you? Since you describe yourself as not being dumb I feel confident in saying those issues would be of importance to you in your buying decision. My post may help one of the 406 people who have viewed this thread make a more informed buying decision.
    05-27-2013 08:11 PM
  24. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    Kevin I stated that the official numbers might even be bigger. You did say that the information I posted was already known, does the information I posted appear on this site?

    While we are on the topic: as a potential buyer of a smart phone would it be of interest to you to know that a manufacturer was possibly exaggerating their sales numbers? Especially if the manufacturer was financially troubled and having personnel defections. Wouldn't the survivability of a manufacturer of a product you wanted to buy, that may require warranty service and certainly require updates, be of interest to you? Since you describe yourself as not being dumb I feel confident in saying those issues would be of importance to you in your buying decision. My post may help one of the 406 people who have viewed this thread make a more informed buying decision.
    That'd be like asking if knowing the manufacturer of a device you are interested in has to resort to smear campaigns to upsale their device would effect your purchasing decision. Wouldn't that make you feel like the device was subpar and might not be a good choice compared to the competitor, if even the manufacturer feels threatened?

    If a manufacturer has doubts in their product, shouldn't you?

    See, we can twist words and split hairs all night.
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    05-27-2013 08:20 PM
  25. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Kevin I stated that the official numbers might even be bigger. You did say that the information I posted was already known, does the information I posted appear on this site?

    While we are on the topic: as a potential buyer of a smart phone would it be of interest to you to know that a manufacturer was possibly exaggerating their sales numbers? Especially if the manufacturer was financially troubled and having personnel defections. Wouldn't the survivability of a manufacturer of a product you wanted to buy, that may require warranty service and certainly require updates, be of interest to you? Since you describe yourself as not being dumb I feel confident in saying those issues would be of importance to you in your buying decision. My post may help one of the 406 people who have viewed this thread make a more informed buying decision.
    They would be, yes. HTC has yet to lose money. None. No red quarters. They've lost mostly marketing people correct? Maybe that's a good thing. But that's not really the subject of the post.

    You're questioning the viability of a company by comparing it to a much more financially strong (and product diverse) company. Why not look at HTC in a vacuum? Why not look at their rankings in market share compared to other Android manufacturers? Still second place right? The viability of HTC is directly related to financial performance and viability in the market. No red quarters + a solid product that's selling well sounds like good news to me.

    If you really wanted to "help" people looking at the One then maybe this needed to go in the One section. As it stands, it looks like nothing more than another jab at HTC and the One.

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    05-27-2013 08:23 PM
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