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  1. Valkaneer's Avatar
    One of the way sites like those (this one included) get more hits is to be more sensationalistic than necessary about relatively unimportant things. If they were all wishy-washy and just said that any of the top phones will be excellent for most everyone then they wouldn't get as many hits. In the case of smartphones that's probably the right way to do it. It's just more interesting to read strong opinions even if they're strong opinions about things that probably don't matter to most people. You just have to keep some perspective on how it all actually applies to you.

    I agree it probably shouldn't do that, but as long as it gets stuff done faster then whether or not the animation is as smooth isn't an issue for me. I rarely spend my time zooming quickly in and out in maps (the place I see it the most) so the stuttering doesn't even show up for me all that often. There are way bigger differences between the S4 and any other phone that are worth considering (e.g. storage options, camera performance, etc) before you get to how smooth the animation is, IMO. The OP asked for my experience and I gave it.
    Aaron is a big Galaxy fan he has carried one since the S3. If you want to believe he hyped it up I guess that's your choice, chose not to believe the guy is lying.
    05-29-2013 03:12 PM
  2. independentvolume's Avatar
    Mine only lags a tiny bit when downloading an app. No biggie. Verizon model here.

    Posted via Android Central App
    05-29-2013 03:27 PM
  3. weblou's Avatar
    Same thing here. I only feel lag when i a new app is installing. Other then that pretty much smooth.

    Mine only lags a tiny bit when downloading an app. No biggie. Verizon model here.

    Posted via Android Central App
    05-29-2013 03:47 PM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    One of the way sites like those (this one included) get more hits is to be more sensationalistic than necessary about relatively unimportant things. If they were all wishy-washy and just said that any of the top phones will be excellent for most everyone then they wouldn't get as many hits. In the case of smartphones that's probably the right way to do it. It's just more interesting to read strong opinions even if they're strong opinions about things that probably don't matter to most people. You just have to keep some perspective on how it all actually applies to you.

    I agree it probably shouldn't do that, but as long as it gets stuff done faster then whether or not the animation is as smooth isn't an issue for me. I rarely spend my time zooming quickly in and out in maps (the place I see it the most) so the stuttering doesn't even show up for me all that often. There are way bigger differences between the S4 and any other phone that are worth considering (e.g. storage options, camera performance, etc) before you get to how smooth the animation is, IMO. The OP asked for my experience and I gave it.
    LULZ at AC being sensationalist at all. If you follow Phil's posts on G+ even a little bit you'll see that there are plenty of clickbait stories that never see the light of day here.

    In regards to the "lag" multiple writers (ok, Jerry, Alex, and Phil) have said that they definitely notice it, but that it's been mostly overblown by people. How is that sensationalist?
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    05-29-2013 04:01 PM
  5. effreyj's Avatar
    I think that people are confused between lag and animation stutter. This is why if you disable the animations then all of the lag goes away...
    05-29-2013 04:03 PM
  6. skiner5246's Avatar
    You know, I'm really struggling as to what exactly are people determining to be the "Lag" issue they are suffering from with all these posts, online artcles, etc?... Is the lag defined as; Compared to the HTC One? Switching between panel screens like Aaron from Phonedog? Opening/Closing apps? What exactly? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. I simply followed some friendly advice found here in the forums, made some minor adjustments in developer options, (and coupled with AT&T ota update) haven't noticed any lag. This device simply does alot of things. I am satisfied with the performace of my S4 and I simply chalk up any "percieved lag" and such to just that. Now granted, I don't do a whole lot of multi-tasking, but when I do, I simply do not see any lag. Same thing on switching between applications. All I can say is for me, it's not an issue. I guess everyone is diferent and I can respect that. But IMO, this lag thing is getting old. Furthermore, since Samsung is amongst the best at sending out updates, I'm confidant any issues; lag, hiccups, stuttering, or whatever will be addressed in short order going forward. Lets not forget, this phone has been out for a little over a month? Yes, you can make the argument, "so has the HTC One" (actually released earlier than the S4) However, the S4 has more features on it than the One. And yes, arguably more "gimicky" features, but nevertheless some I actually find incredibly usefull, and that's why I choose it.
    ( No flame wars please as they are BOTH terrific devices, just me personally stating my preference that's all.) It seems like everyone wants instant gratification nowadays. Again, my opinion here but I feel this "Lag" issue has gotten a little out of hand.
    05-29-2013 04:10 PM
  7. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    I ordered mine from Amazon.
    Reading the many reviews by those who posted there, I didn't notice any mention of this as being an issue with the Verizon version.
    I trust as many have posted here that Samsung will address this concern.
    05-29-2013 04:46 PM
  8. android010's Avatar
    I am using the international octa core version with nova launcher at its fastest speed. I can tell you that there is big lag in multiple parts of the phone like opening the camera, the apps, closing the apps,etc. My hope is that samsung will release a software update that helps speeding up the phone. I never experienced lag or crashes with my old nexus 4 but could not stand the attractive hardware of the s4.
    05-29-2013 06:02 PM
  9. omniusovermind's Avatar
    I think that people are confused between lag and animation stutter. This is why if you disable the animations then all of the lag goes away...
    this seems to be the general consensus way to fix it. I think people's main beef is that they have to do this at all. Hopefully all it will take is an update from Samsung to teak the animations so disabling them isn't required at all.
    05-30-2013 08:23 AM
  10. dougltc's Avatar
    There is a good work-around for UI lag here:

    http://m.androidauthority.com/samsun...tricks-207516/

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Android Central Forums
    05-30-2013 09:07 AM
  11. JeffDenver's Avatar
    No lag here. Running flawlessly


    Time index 3:40.

    The lag is because of touchwiz. So it might not be something you can fix. I am willing to bet that installing an vanilla android ROM will make the lag magically disappear.
    05-30-2013 09:56 AM
  12. effreyj's Avatar


    Time index 3:40.

    The lag is because of touchwiz. So it might not be something you can fix. I am willing to bet that installing an vanilla android ROM will make the lag magically disappear.
    Which is why if you install Nova Launcher and disable the transition animations in the developer settings, then all of the lag is gone...
    05-30-2013 10:00 AM
  13. sooner7's Avatar
    We shouldn't have to disable transition animations to get a smooth experience.

    It's sad when beta AOSP roms are smoother and more fluid than Samsung's stock rom. I had to install a custom kernel on my S4 to tone down the lag, and even then, it is still there.
    Since installing the kernel my phone is smooth, but if I did not root/rom, I would NOT have this phone right now.

    Don't flame me.. I have had 3 out of 4 of the S series devices. But I want Samsung to get it's software act together, the S4 UI looks like a highly refined version of Touchwiz found on the gingerbread Galaxy S.
    Brenden_Pippinger likes this.
    05-30-2013 11:01 AM
  14. orion575's Avatar
    After I flashed a kernel from faux, there is no more lag at all

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    05-30-2013 08:32 PM
  15. planoman's Avatar
    So out of a 16 minute video that points us to 3:40 and there is no lag shown at 3:40. In fact, the video pretty much shows the S4 doing very well against a Nexus 4 which most people agree is very smooth and does not have touchwiz.

    Not that I had any doubts...tonight I pulled out my Nexus 4 and Note 2 and did many comparisons similar to the video. Opening the camera app, other apps, app drawer etc like we saw in the video above.

    The S4 was consistently faster or tied with the Nexus 4 at these tasks, consistently tied or a tad slower on the camera opening than the Note 2 and tied with the iphone 5 on camera opening up. Remember the iphone camera app opens quicker but the shutter opening simulation takes a few fractions of a second to be ready to take a picture. Scrolling is about the same on all, very smooth and fluid.

    To be sure I know this is anecdotal and not scientific and I felt quite silly doing it because it really does not prove anything to doubters. I did not do it to convince the doubters out there, I did it to the ones that are new to this device or thinking of getting this device and may not be sure what to believe. They should have confidence that the S4 is a top notch device and they can be sure it will perform well. With future tweaks and updates it will be even better. Someone reminded me today that the note 2 has a few updates before it was as rock solid as it is today!
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    05-30-2013 09:13 PM
  16. RG13's Avatar
    My messaging application lags a lot I don't know why? Is it because I have lots of messages? Is there a fix for this? if it is because I have a lot of texts I didn't had this problem on my iPhone 5 so why?
    05-30-2013 11:39 PM
  17. edgefever's Avatar
    Use chomp sms

    Sent from my SCH-I545
    05-31-2013 12:33 AM
  18. tohio's Avatar
    So out of a 16 minute video that points us to 3:40 and there is no lag shown at 3:40. In fact, the video pretty much shows the S4 doing very well against a Nexus 4 which most people agree is very smooth and does not have touchwiz.

    Not that I had any doubts...tonight I pulled out my Nexus 4 and Note 2 and did many comparisons similar to the video. Opening the camera app, other apps, app drawer etc like we saw in the video above.

    The S4 was consistently faster or tied with the Nexus 4 at these tasks, consistently tied or a tad slower on the camera opening than the Note 2 and tied with the iphone 5 on camera opening up. Remember the iphone camera app opens quicker but the shutter opening simulation takes a few fractions of a second to be ready to take a picture. Scrolling is about the same on all, very smooth and fluid.

    To be sure I know this is anecdotal and not scientific and I felt quit silly doing it because it really does not prove anything to doubters. I did not do it to convince the doubters out there, I did it to the ones that are new to this device or thinking of getting this device and may not be sure what to believe. They should have confidence that the S4 is a top notch device and they can be sure it will perform well. With future tweaks and updates it will be even better. Someone reminded me today that the note 2 has a few updates before it was as rock solid as it is today!
    Too bad everyone isn't as thorough as you when posting a response to a technical item that can sometimes be misleading. Thanks for taking the time to do the comparison.
    05-31-2013 07:18 AM
  19. Jascias's Avatar
    This is not here.
    05-31-2013 07:35 AM
  20. Dural's Avatar
    Which is why if you install Nova Launcher and disable the transition animations in the developer settings, then all of the lag is gone...
    All of this. Nova on Verizon version here. Zero lag under any circumstances and I didn't even bother to disable the transitions.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    05-31-2013 08:02 AM
  21. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    For those experiencing lag, have you tried running without your sd card?
    Also, it seems most the lag complaints are coming from att s4 owners.
    05-31-2013 12:46 PM
  22. JeffDenver's Avatar
    So out of a 16 minute video that points us to 3:40 and there is no lag shown at 3:40. In fact, the video pretty much shows the S4 doing very well against a Nexus 4
    You apparently missed the part with the map zooming (and the freeze-frame slideshow from the S4).

    If you want to pretend it does not exist I am ok with that. It would annoy me personally, but a lot of other people do not seem to notice it. Enjoy the S4.
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    05-31-2013 05:17 PM
  23. planoman's Avatar
    You apparently missed the part with the map zooming (and the freeze-frame slideshow from the S4).

    If you want to pretend it does not exist I am ok with that. It would annoy me personally, but a lot of other people do not seem to notice it. Enjoy the S4.
    I did see that and was thinking the dude did not know how to zoom in and out, as it looked a bit awkward. I did not mention it in my post but I did this for about 10 minutes on my S4 and no pretending needed, it does not exist not my my phone anyway. My S4 was smooth as silk on the map zooming. Anyways I am enjoying the next big thing! Check out the thread about those that are completely satisfied with their S4, I am not alone. I would rib you about no SD card because I know you hate that but I won't! lol! I enjoyed my Nexus 4 but the 16GB thing and the camera bugged me a it too much but I guess we all make tradeoffs. I hope the next Nexus has a 32GB option! Have a good one!
    05-31-2013 05:52 PM
  24. speed13's Avatar
    I started to have couple issues with my Galaxy S4. First issue is when the phone is locked with passcode it's all the numbers comes to big and so lagy is really slow response while I type the code. Also after I unlock screen the icons started to be huge and I'm unable to do anything until I press power button. But phone is like in slow motion in many ways. Any suggestions, ideas are welcome.

    Thank you so much.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 White - using Tapatalk
    06-02-2013 12:02 AM
  25. JeffDenver's Avatar
    I did see that and was thinking the dude did not know how to zoom in and out, as it looked a bit awkward.
    My experience with a store unit at Best buy yesterday was identical. Maybe it is an app that is causing it and not touchwiz, I don't know. But it's there and real. For the most part it is very smooth (especially on the main screen UI), but I did see lag, and it was most obvious in maps.

    I would rib you about no SD card
    If you did I would agree with you. The lack of SD is a ridiculous oversight and motivated (IMO) entirely by nerd politics. It annoys the hell out of me that the phone has no SD. That does not make it a bad phone...it just makes it less perfect than it could be.

    The S4 has it's imperfections as well. The S4's main flaw is touchwiz.

    I hope the next Nexus has a 32GB option!
    The release of a Vanilla Android S4 will make that option moot anyway; There is nothing a 32 gig Nexus 4 will do that a Vanilla Android S4 will not do better. The nexus line is going to become obsolete if this becomes a trend.
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    06-03-2013 09:47 AM
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