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  1. snookasnoo's Avatar
    New version of Swiftkey just came out that is supposed to be better for lag.
    Samsung really did rush this phone out unfinished and I don't have a great amount of confidence in their ability or interest in fixing issues. But I can hack the s**t out of to minimize those issues. Touchwiz is fast becoming an abomination as far as I'm concerned. I could care less about most TW features.
    I do really like the 5 inch screen on that size handset though, don't care about the Note 2 stylus since I never use it, and it's on Verizon. But since Verizon is talking their time about getting a 32 GB version I still have time to ponder.


    Keyboard Lag: This also is really terrible. I bought Swiftkey awhile back and have used it on many phones, and typing on the GS4 is incredibly laggy. I type very fast but not always accurately. The GS4 skips letters all the time. I know the phone is recognizing I hit the keys cause I use the key sounds and I can hear it click when I hit letters, but the phone will randomly skip letters. This happens in email and SMS. (I use Handcent for SMS). I don't type long things in other apps to know if it lags in there also, but I would bet it does. I know it's not swiftkey, cause I also have that issue with the regular keyboard, and Swiftkey was fine on the Note 2 and my LG Optimus G Pro.
    I also have an LG Optimus G Pro for my work phone, and in many ways it is far superior to the GS4. The GS4 is nothing but a newer GS3 with a bunch of gimmicky stuff that most people turn off and won't use. The LG Pro is a great phone and runs very smooth, but I couldn't see buying it for my personal phone being as I doubt it will ever get much support since it is only on AT&T. Also LG is known for slow to non existent updates, so who knows if this thing will get 4.2.2, let alone 4.3 or above.
    Yeah but its not too much to expect to take press the soft button and the phone takes the picture. Most other smartphones do that now. I haven't used an S 4 camera myself though so I'm not sure how bad it is. I think most of the camera features are gimmicky too. Are there android apps that can replace it like Camera + which I use on my iPhone 5 and iPad 4.

    If you're trying to photograph a moving toddler (which is difficult even with a super fast responding camera) your needs may be different than someone who mostly takes pictures of nature and their needs will be different from someone who usually takes pictures of people posing. The latter is what seems to be the most common use of phone cameras and it seems to me like that's what the options are optimized for. That means the camera not being quite as responsive (I find it's still quite quick and I do get some decent toddler pics, FWIW), but that's not as important in that case.
    If the LG Optimus G Pro was on Verizon good chance I would get it. Despite the name. :-)

    I went from iPhone 5 to the LG Optimus G pro for 14 days. it was a tad Too big for me and traded it on day 14 for the S4.
    I do not have ANY of the air features on, I do not have S voice "wake up command" on. I don't want my phone always listening / waiting for a command word.
    I don't have any of the Eye features on.
    There might be a Very "slight" hesitation once in a while, but overall. I can't find that lag in the S4.
    I type very fast and my phone keeps up with me every step of the way.
    I fricken LOVED the LG OGP. I still think its the best phone on the market right now. If it were 5" instead of 5.5", it would be THEE best phone ever made.

    I don't know if you mean built in memory or an actual SD card but thats not the only factor. It is a significant one though.

    Camera lag is directly relayed to SD card speed.
    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Um, no. He paid money for it, he has the right to complain and Samsung should hear user complaints instead of just rolling over and taking whatever they feel like giving people. I've never seen people make excuses for a phone as they are with the S4. Really ridiculous.

    My s4 is perfect. I think it runs amazing coming from the s2. Get rid of your bloat and turn off your animations.
    Btw all Samsung devices running touch wiz have some sort of lag. You learn to just enjoy your phone and stop complaining.
    05-30-2013 01:32 PM
  2. planoman's Avatar
    I do not want to be flamed, I used Android for 3 years and got so tired of it before I ever got an iPhone and I am not looking back, but just going through the posts it baffles me that some S4 fans answers are just simply turn these 5 things off and the camera should work, turn these off and this will work, how can you guys put up with that? Why getting a new phone based on many new features but you have to disable these features for the phone to work? Just an honest question!

    Thank you
    No reason to flame anyone. I have have owned every galaxy s device including both s2's which included the skyrocket and three models of the note. International, att note and note 2. I say this because I am very familiar with touch wiz and there are not many settings I do not know how to use.

    When I got the s4 I was overwhelmed with the sheer number of options. Air, touch gesture etc. I like the phone for the basic smartphone features not all of the stuff it can do. I would not be surprised if someone has issues if much of this is turned on. The s4 has many more features than whatever is in 2nd place. Many of them should be turned off to get optimum performance. Not sure anyone would want them all turn off but many of them are over kill or show off things.

    That said many people who have this problem have little knowledge of how to optimize this device for speed or performance so that is why the advice. With everything turned on I am sure it is a slow multi media device. Optimized it is a very capable device. It will continue to receive updates to optimize it even more like the note 2 received.

    Just my opinion. Can I wait a few fractions of a second for the camera app to open and load? Yep, because I know the pics are going to be great. Everyone want to load all of these features instantaneously and that is just not realistic. Turn most of them off if you are not using them and it is a different device. And it will get even better in the near future with updates!

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
    05-30-2013 03:57 PM
  3. Bob Sugar's Avatar
    I'll trade you my note 2 att straight up. I hate not being able to group text. **** this phone
    05-30-2013 05:08 PM
  4. GMJeff's Avatar

    Um, no. He paid money for it, he has the right to complain and Samsung should hear user complaints instead of just rolling over and taking whatever they feel like giving people. I've never seen people make excuses for a phone as they are with the S4. Really ridiculous.
    Lets see, the iphone 4 comes to mind.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
    05-30-2013 05:41 PM
  5. txtoast's Avatar
    Lets see, the iphone 4 comes to mind.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
    BlackBerry Z10
    05-30-2013 05:49 PM
  6. the1m.polo's Avatar
    Messaging on the AT&T Note 2 is bad enough to make me want to puke. I shouldn't have to download additional ****ty apps and jump through hoops to try to get group messaging to work.

    That alone makes me want to smash the note 2 with a hammer.
    Wow!! The note 2 is the best phone ive every typed on ...oh thats an at&t issue....yea that sucks

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Android Central Forums
    05-30-2013 05:51 PM
  7. sidds18's Avatar
    Hi Halcyon,
    Im planning to upgrade my phone to s4 from a BB 9850.What will i miss by not going for BB Z10 Instead ? Im on verizon as well.
    Thanks.
    05-30-2013 06:27 PM
  8. Bob Sugar's Avatar
    Wow!! The note 2 is the best phone ive every typed on ...oh thats an at&t issue....yea that sucks

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Android Central Forums
    Nice constructive post, you must feel extra cool today
    05-30-2013 06:46 PM
  9. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    If you don't care for this thread feel free to move on. Don't post in this thread if you're here to be rude and to insult other members.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
    05-30-2013 07:13 PM
  10. Bob Sugar's Avatar
    If you don't care for this thread feel free to move on. Don't post in this thread if you're here to be rude and to insult other members.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
    I've been posting constructively in this thread, perhaps you should read it.
    05-30-2013 07:17 PM
  11. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    I've been posting constructively in this thread, perhaps you should read it.
    Insulting other members is not constructive and will not be tolerated. I suggest that any future posts of yours be both civil in tone and on-topic. Please take the opportunity to review the forum rules.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
    05-30-2013 07:20 PM
  12. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Posts regarding buying, selling, or purchasing devices may not be posted outside the Marketplace section of the forums.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note II
    05-30-2013 09:43 PM
  13. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    Bob,

    Arguing with a moderator publically about a decision is not condoned and is only encouraging the derailment of this thread. Feel free to send Steven or I a message with your concerns, but continuing to post in this thread will not be productive for anyone involved. Please review the site rules and think carefully about your next action.

    Jennifer



    "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. -courtesy of Albus Dumbledore, via my droid DNA.
    crester likes this.
    05-30-2013 09:48 PM
  14. roberts68's Avatar
    I upgraded from an s2 and the s4 is amazing!

    Sent from my amazing Samsung Galaxy S4... there is none better!
    05-30-2013 09:53 PM
  15. Johnny Roberts's Avatar
    No reason to flame anyone. I have have owned every galaxy s device including both s2's which included the skyrocket and three models of the note. International, att note and note 2. I say this because I am very familiar with touch wiz and there are not many settings I do not know how to use.

    When I got the s4 I was overwhelmed with the sheer number of options. Air, touch gesture etc. I like the phone for the basic smartphone features not all of the stuff it can do. I would not be surprised if someone has issues if much of this is turned on. The s4 has many more features than whatever is in 2nd place. Many of them should be turned off to get optimum performance. Not sure anyone would want them all turn off but many of them are over kill or show off things.

    That said many people who have this problem have little knowledge of how to optimize this device for speed or performance so that is why the advice. With everything turned on I am sure it is a slow multi media device. Optimized it is a very capable device. It will continue to receive updates to optimize it even more like the note 2 received.

    Just my opinion. Can I wait a few fractions of a second for the camera app to open and load? Yep, because I know the pics are going to be great. Everyone want to load all of these features instantaneously and that is just not realistic. Turn most of them off if you are not using them and it is a different device. And it will get even better in the near future with updates!

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
    Thanks for this post. It explains exactly how I feel!
    05-30-2013 09:57 PM
  16. the1m.polo's Avatar
    Nice constructive post, you must feel extra cool today
    It wasn't that man, honestly I thought you were bashing the texting on the note 2 ..then I noticed(after I had started replying) you were talking about the group text issue on At&t..... and was just agreeing with you. ..that does suck...no disrespect intended...

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Android Central Forums
    05-31-2013 09:33 AM
  17. the1m.polo's Avatar
    Hi Halcyon,
    Im planning to upgrade my phone to s4 from a BB 9850.What will i miss by not going for BB Z10 Instead ? Im on verizon as well.
    Thanks.
    Well to get an accurate answer you would want to ask someone who has come from BB ....maybe search the forums with searches such as "moved from BB" or "BB to Gs4" idk ....but Good luck

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Android Central Forums
    05-31-2013 09:38 AM
  18. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    Personal insults will not be tolerated in the forums.

    "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. -courtesy of Albus Dumbledore, via my droid DNA.
    05-31-2013 11:40 AM
  19. socraticmeth's Avatar
    Oh, didn't know I couldn't be rude to the guy being rude. Duly noted.

    Having the exact save problem. I love my Note Dose. Wanted to kiss it and marry. Had to switch carriers thought I'd try out this piece a rubbish. I've went into developer options and turned off all the fancy animations. I've turned off air view and other features as per Engadgets review. Nothing works.

    I think it's rude to tease me with all these bonerific spec and then build software around it that apparently isn't taking advantage of it very well
    05-31-2013 11:40 AM
  20. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    Oh, didn't know I couldn't be rude to the guy being rude. Duly noted.

    Having the exact save problem. I love my Note Dose. Wanted to kiss it and marry. Had to switch carriers thought I'd try out this piece a rubbish. I've went into developer options and turned off all the fancy animations. I've turned off air view and other features as per Engadgets review. Nothing works.

    I think it's rude to tease me with all these bonerific spec and then build software around it that apparently isn't taking advantage of it very well
    Rudeness in the forums is never condoned. The moderators have handled the situation long before your post. If you do not like a post, please use the report post button. A moderator will review the post and take action from there.

    "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. -courtesy of Albus Dumbledore, via my droid DNA.
    05-31-2013 11:44 AM
  21. socraticmeth's Avatar
    My Note II ran TW like a boss. It's my only stock Samsung that both my Apple fan boy friends and Android fan boy friends and red neck friends alike would say "damn, that's as buttery as iPhone" about. This gs4 isa big disappointment after that.

    Whoops meant to reply with quote
    05-31-2013 12:09 PM
  22. planoman's Avatar
    My Note II ran TW like a boss. It's my only stock Samsung that both my Apple fan boy friends and Android fan boy friends and red neck friends alike would say "damn, that's as buttery as iPhone" about. This gs4 isa big disappointment after that.

    Whoops meant to reply with quote
    I agree the Note 2 is very smooth. I got it back in November on release day and I believe it has had two or three updates or so to get it so smooth. The S4 will surely get there if not already, I have no doubt. Maybe it just needs a tad more optimization because of all the features. Sometimes when you tweak one feature, you bork another...it will be a great device! Both of mine are on ATT.
    05-31-2013 12:26 PM
  23. socraticmeth's Avatar
    I agree the Note 2 is very smooth. I got it back in November on release day and I believe it has had two or three updates or so to get it so smooth. The S4 will surely get there if not already, I have no doubt. Maybe it just needs a tad more optimization because of all the features. Sometimes when you tweak one feature, you bork another...it will be a great device! Both of mine are on ATT.
    I agree. I'm not too worried. But I do feel like Sammy set a high bar and the expectation it set has put a bad taste in a lot of mouths. And bought my Note II with in weeks of its launch the same as this GS-Fo and I don't remember it ever lagging. I remember sitting in my car playing with it outta box and texting all muh nerdas telling them how snappy it was.

    On the flip side problems lead to seeking solutions and fixes and making us more proficient users. So that part is kind of fun.
    05-31-2013 05:13 PM
  24. Raptor007's Avatar
    I personally am enjoying the GS4, but I am looking forward to the GN3. I will be looking at the GN3 ONLY if it comes with a minimum of 32GB (minus formatting and OS) no 16GB phones for me ever again. I loved the GN2 but the lack of internal storage and Verizon's bootloader BS was a big turn off. Being on ATT now I can freely get the phone(s) I want and move on without issue.
    05-31-2013 09:43 PM
  25. planoman's Avatar
    I personally am enjoying the GS4, but I am looking forward to the GN3. I will be looking at the GN3 ONLY if it comes with a minimum of 32GB (minus formatting and OS) no 16GB phones for me ever again. I loved the GN2 but the lack of internal storage and Verizon's bootloader BS was a big turn off. Being on ATT now I can freely get the phone(s) I want and move on without issue.
    AND not physically larger than it is now. If they can make the screen larger but not the size great, but it is at the size limit for me.
    05-31-2013 09:45 PM
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