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  1. HPferoxCraft's Avatar
    I can't see them when browsing through the files on the phone with a file app.
    If you plug the SD into your pc and allow your pc to see hidden folders you should see them in I believe it's a folder called Android secure. I'm away from my pc but I think that's the one. It's hidden.

    Posted via My Finger
    09-18-2013 04:16 PM
  2. Lucy Price's Avatar
    I am very sorry that I bought this Samsung S4 like one of the previous guys commented here the let down in storage renders this
    Phone useless. It is an amazing phone I am a gaged maniac and I had Iphones up to now iphone 5.

    The hole appeal of the samsung S4 was the SD card it was a winner now after facing the issue that Stuff does not really move to the
    SD card as it says I can not wait to discard of it asp.

    I can not have a phone hanging around for so much cash that limites me from working playing and storing what I need.

    I will be going back to Apple Iphone 5S which does not Have a sd card but I have 64GB and here I know what I get.
    i checked a samsung for 32gb o dear I pay 800 pounds so the argument that samsung cheaper is not true you actually pay more for the same service.

    I love android but samsung has lost me as a customer I also own the experia z which works greatly.
    10-05-2013 08:03 AM
  3. STARGATE's Avatar
    Hello Lucy, I don't know why your phone isn't moving apps to the SD card. Mine is been doing it since the update!

    Maybe you haven't really checked?

    Anyway, I don't think you really love Android, I think you like Apple a little better, and that's okay, everyone has different needs from devices.
    But saying that the GS4 doesn't move apps to the SD card it's just not true. Unless you have a bad unit or haven't had the latest update for some reason.

    Well, whatever you decide I wish you good luck!
    :thumbup:

    Sent From a Galaxy S4 Away!
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    10-05-2013 09:20 AM
  4. STSVA's Avatar
    I couldn't use the S4 without the SD card - I've got more than 30GB of MP3s on it, as well as a bunch of apps. It's working fine for me.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using AC Forums mobile app
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    10-05-2013 01:55 PM
  5. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Hello Lucy, I don't know why your phone isn't moving apps to the SD card. Mine is been doing it since the update!

    Maybe you haven't really checked?

    Anyway, I don't think you really love Android, I think you like Apple a little better, and that's okay, everyone has different needs from devices.
    But saying that the GS4 doesn't move apps to the SD card it's just not true. Unless you have a bad unit or haven't had the latest update for some reason.

    Well, whatever you decide I wish you good luck!
    :thumbup:

    Sent From a Galaxy S4 Away!
    The s4 doesn't move whole apps to the SD card only portions and some can't be moved to the SD card at all. So you're only partially correct

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    10-05-2013 09:21 PM
  6. pbryant_knight's Avatar
    The Samsung S4 DOES NOT store apps on the SD card. Despite the update saying it can, it can only transfer a VERY small part of the app to an SD card. When it says the full App has transferred, it has actually been transferred to the emulated SD card on the actual phone device itself.

    Due to the storage issue, and the phone crashing and losing photos from the SD card when it did, I have now went back to Apple and bought a iPhone 5 64 Gig. Apple phones just work. They do what they say on the tin. I wish i'd just got this as an upgrade instead of having to shell out cash for it after upgrading to the Samsung Galaxy S4.

    Thanks for all those that tried to help with this issue, but it appears it is unsolveable.

    Peter
    10-06-2013 09:27 AM
  7. Faiz Isseriouslyjoking's Avatar
    bull****...i used xperia s,this wasnt a problem.xperia had internal memory but it nvr saved on my phone memory before...after i switch to samsung this happen....i only have 2gb of phone memory,so basically i can only download one good game then it will always stay full memory
    10-11-2013 10:06 AM
  8. Kenneth Liddle's Avatar
    Why complain about the phone or manufacturer, when it is the developer that sets the rules? If you were really concerned with this, you would have asked upfront. Instead, you run to the forums taking about how android and Samsung suck, because you didn't ask the proper question at the point of sale. They sell iPhones and Android phones that have 64 gigs of space.
    10-16-2013 06:25 AM
  9. pbryant_knight's Avatar
    To be fair, i DID ask upfront before i bought the phone. Samsung released a statement saying that Apps can now be stored on the SD card. Samsung are now backtracking due to a fault and blaming the devs for only allowinfg a small portion of the app to be stored on the SD card. Bollocks!! The dev either allows or doesn't allow SD storage. the problem is that the phone stores the bulk of the code on the "Emulated SD card" which is within the phones internal memory. If you look at the App in the settings, it appears that it has all moved. Well, yes it has......to the "emulated SD" on the phones internal memory.

    Peter
    10-17-2013 12:40 PM
  10. auduk's Avatar
    Hi all,

    I'm a little bit late to the thread. But I am having the same problems as OP. Came here looking for a fix and reading this whole thread was quite painful. Now it seems all the patronising idiots have left. I may just have found a solution online..

    I have a brand new Galaxy Note 3, 32gb and a brand new 64gb sandisk SD ultra. I too have a big library of apps and a bigger one of music. I currently have a full phone and an SD card with no apps on it just media.

    In my opinion this isn't the developers fault at all, it seems to lie purely with either Samsung or Google, as 95% of the app is moved to the emulated SD card. So the developer has done its bit. It doesn't know that its only going to an emulated SD card on the device. Why Samsung have done this I don't know. Could it just be a mistake? That the emulated SD takes priority somehow? What's the point in having an emulated SD? It seems pointless. Its essentially a partition.

    Anyway I haven't tried this yet but this bloke Rob Williams with techgage.com. Has a way to do it using your PC a USB cable and downloading part of an SDK kit. Then going into the phone using command prompt (NO ROOTING) and changing the default to external SD swapping all your apps as usual. Then changing your phone back again afterwards.

    Here's the link Moving Your ‘Non-Movable’ Android Apps to an SD Card – Techgage

    I'm gonna try it myself now. Ill report back at some stage incase anyone else like me stumbles upon this thread.

    And whoever it was that wrote to Samsung, I have to wonder how you worded your question. Because they've missed the mark completely and there was no mention of an emulated SD in their response I believe. Just a shift of blame to the developers. Which as I've already mentioned have held up their side of the deal mostly. By making the app available for movement.

    See how I've managed a whole message without mentioning Apple or anything else completely off topic.. What's wrong with some of you people!?

    And to the kids who just reply without understanding the subject at all. I wonder what made you click on to this thread in the first place? Good luck to you in the future. You socially awkward tits.

    Its been emotional.

    Out to you.
    Nicole Wind likes this.
    10-23-2013 03:22 PM
  11. prozacfield's Avatar
    There's no emulated SD card on S4, emulated is just a term used in Android file system for various purposes.
    Just moved 200-something MB of apps to external SD (thanks for reminding me to do so!), the SD actually went from 7 GB of free space to 6.8.
    For some strange reason the forum doesn't allow me to attach screenshot i just took with Angry Birds on my external SD. I'll ask about this issue tomorrow and will upload when it fixed.
    sfrrr likes this.
    10-23-2013 06:23 PM
  12. pbryant_knight's Avatar
    Try moving a large app, say over a gig, like real Racing 3, then you will see the real impact. Check SD and phone on both device and PC to see where the files have gone.

    Peter
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    10-24-2013 12:42 PM
  13. RedbeardinTC's Avatar
    I'm having the same problem with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 7". I don't think it's device specific.

    I am trying to move Madden 25 to my SD card.
    Before I move it:
    Total: 1.19 GB
    Application: 57.45 MB
    SD card app: 1.07 GB
    Data: 69.35 MB

    After I "move" it:
    Total: 1.19 GB
    Application: 1.68 MB
    SD card app: 1.12 GB
    Data: 69.35 MB

    When I look up my internal storage and external storage with 'DiskUsage' (awesome app) it says I have 1092 MB used on my internal storage by Madden. If I delete that file and try to start the game, it downloads it again. I'm assuming this is the data file of the app with all the graphics.

    When I switch to my 32 gig microSD card, I have 55.8 MB there from Madden 25.

    This is not what I want. My device only gives me about 4.5 GB for *all* my user data, so I can only install *one* high graphic app if it won't store the resources file on my external SD card.

    I did chat with an EA rep, and he's having the same problem. He can only install FIFA and no other big apps, because they won't move to his SD card. So...tech support was having the same problem, and didn't know how to fix it...
    11-01-2013 08:22 PM
  14. RedbeardinTC's Avatar
    I tried using this, with the 'obb' file (which is where the big file is for Madden) and it didn't work...it's downloading the game resources again. It might work with other apps though.

    11-01-2013 08:49 PM
  15. Roof dAddy's Avatar
    11-04-2013 12:59 AM
  16. ralbert20's Avatar
    Roof dAddy was correct. The only thing that worked for me (Root, hyperdrive ROM, S4, Verizon) was to use FolderMount. Be sure you are linking the correct correct folder. The folder should also contain artwork folders, this is how I knew I was linking the correct folders. I could not successfully use either romtoolbox, or rootexplorer; both gave me a "some SD cards do not support..."
    11-07-2013 12:50 PM
  17. Castor00's Avatar
    Finally I am happy that Im not alone with this problem. I have been a little frustrated about this ever since I got my Note 3.

    I have tried moving several apps like RealRacing3, GTA Vice City, etc to the SD card. Phone says they are in SD Card but when I check my SD Card, there is not 1byte of app data in there.

    And my phone memory keeps getting eaten up by these Huge games! I really hope Samsung can fix this in the next udpate, or This will be my First and Last Samsung device.
    11-09-2013 01:10 PM
  18. Felipe Valera's Avatar
    Hello Bryant:

    Computer programs sometimes use what I call tricks, if you delete a photo, never is deleted from the computer, if you remove and icon, for example from an app soft, you can remove or you can make it transparent, users don't see nothing but it is still in the app, maybe in this case the trick is too evident, you must know when you move an app to sd card , part of the app is in the internal memory, i think it is a problem of hardware and programming.

    Good luck.
    11-14-2013 11:13 PM
  19. sddabrow's Avatar
    Peter is 100% correct.

    I just got a Note 3 and it does the exact same thing.. saves apps to the internal memory. To explain it, Samsung phones likely have eMMC, which is basically an embedded SD card (actually soldered to the PCB) whereas we know the SD card we can input is replaceable.

    When you move an app to the 'SD Card' it moves it to the phones internal eMMC memory... not the external SD card we have put in our phones.

    After some research, it looks like the only way to fix this is through root as Roof Daddy and Ralbert stated. I am getting along without doing that and just using the SD card for pictures, files, and music. Everything else will just have to fit on the 32GB eMMC within the phone..
    11-16-2013 02:13 PM
  20. Skyro's Avatar
    Same problem here as the OP. I am desperate, there has to be a solution. Already regretting that I switched from iPhone.
    12-13-2013 05:25 PM
  21. STSVA's Avatar
    There seems to be a huge amount of confusion in this thread. If you have an Android version that allows moving apps to the external SD card, a portion of moveable apps does go to the SD card when you check that option for the app. As best I can tell, the entire app, including both the executable code and the app data, does not move, and it's mostly app data that moves. The people saying that nothing goes to the SD card are, in a word, wrong. If you make careful notes of phone storage info. before and after "moving" an app you can see that there's been a change. What actually happens when moving an app may not be what you expect from the concept of moving apps to the SD card, but it does reduce the data load on the phone's internal memory.
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    12-14-2013 08:52 AM
  22. Henning Knutsen's Avatar
    There seems to be a huge amount of confusion in this thread. If you have an Android version that allows moving apps to the external SD card, a portion of moveable apps does go to the SD card when you check that option for the app. As best I can tell, the entire app, including both the executable code and the app data, does not move, and it's mostly app data that moves. The people saying that nothing goes to the SD card are, in a word, wrong. If you make careful notes of phone storage info. before and after "moving" an app you can see that there's been a change. What actually happens when moving an app may not be what you expect from the concept of moving apps to the SD card, but it does reduce the data load on the phone's internal memory.
    I can't believe how arrogant you are stating that everyone who reports this error are wrong.
    Seing as this problem definitly exists, the one persion contributing to the confusion is you.

    I am on a stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3, and am having the exact same issue as reported by several other users.
    My phone recently updated from 4.1.2 to 4.3, and with it came the option to move apps to external SD.

    I tried moving many apps, upon which my phone states they were transferred successfully, and reflected the change in the individual app's storage overview.
    Observing that my free memory had not increased however, i used ES File Explorer to investigate.
    I found that not a single byte had been written to the external SD (with one possible exception, see below), and all files remained on sdCard0, ie. the phone's internal memory.

    I also noticed a new "partition" that I haven't seen before, named "emulated", which contained two folders with identical content and size, one named "legacy" and one named "0". They, in turn, are both identical to the sdCard0 "partition", meaning that for some reason, "emulated" displays the exact content of the phone's internal memory in two different folders.

    Finally, I noticed that my LOST.dir folder on the external SD card seemed unusually large (9.1 GB!).
    Seing as that folder is for corrupted data, I deleted its content.

    Now, when I try and launch any of the moved apps, I get an error saying it has stopped working.
    Allthewhile, the amount stored on the internal and external cards haven't changed, respectively.
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    01-08-2014 07:27 AM
  23. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I can't believe how arrogant you are stating that everyone who reports this error are wrong.
    Seing as this problem definitly exists, the one persion contributing to the confusion is you.

    I am on a stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3, and am having the exact same issue as reported by several other users.
    My phone recently updated from 4.1.2 to 4.3, and with it came the option to move apps to external SD.

    I tried moving many apps, upon which my phone states they were transferred successfully, and reflected the change in the individual app's storage overview.
    Observing that my free memory had not increased however, i used ES File Explorer to investigate.
    I found that not a single byte had been written to the external SD (with one possible exception, see below), and all files remained on sdCard0, ie. the phone's internal memory.

    I also noticed a new "partition" that I haven't seen before, named "emulated", which contained two folders with identical content and size, one named "legacy" and one named "0". They, in turn, are both identical to the sdCard0 "partition", meaning that for some reason, "emulated" displays the exact content of the phone's internal memory in two different folders.

    Finally, I noticed that my LOST.dir folder on the external SD card seemed unusually large (9.1 GB!).
    Seing as that folder is for corrupted data, I deleted its content.

    Now, when I try and launch any of the moved apps, I get an error saying it has stopped working.
    Allthewhile, the amount stored on the internal and external cards haven't changed, respectively.
    It sounds like you confused your phone... As the person you're replying to said, some data gets written to the card but most of the apps stay where they are in the phone. If they're writing duplicates of themselves they're still staying where they originally were, but parts of their functions are being split off onto the external card. This is how I understand it, anyway. So, when you delete the part of them on the external card, the other part no longer works.

    The best solution is to leave the apps alone. When the phone becomes too full you can always clear the caches and data of individual apps in Settings/ Manage Apps.

    Keep your pictures, videos, music on the external card.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
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    01-08-2014 10:12 AM
  24. STSVA's Avatar
    I can't believe how arrogant you are stating that everyone who reports this error are wrong.
    Seing as this problem definitly exists, the one persion contributing to the confusion is you.

    I am on a stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3, and am having the exact same issue as reported by several other users.
    My phone recently updated from 4.1.2 to 4.3, and with it came the option to move apps to external SD.

    I tried moving many apps, upon which my phone states they were transferred successfully, and reflected the change in the individual app's storage overview.
    Observing that my free memory had not increased however, i used ES File Explorer to investigate.
    I found that not a single byte had been written to the external SD (with one possible exception, see below), and all files remained on sdCard0, ie. the phone's internal memory.

    I also noticed a new "partition" that I haven't seen before, named "emulated", which contained two folders with identical content and size, one named "legacy" and one named "0". They, in turn, are both identical to the sdCard0 "partition", meaning that for some reason, "emulated" displays the exact content of the phone's internal memory in two different folders.

    Finally, I noticed that my LOST.dir folder on the external SD card seemed unusually large (9.1 GB!).
    Seing as that folder is for corrupted data, I deleted its content.

    Now, when I try and launch any of the moved apps, I get an error saying it has stopped working.
    Allthewhile, the amount stored on the internal and external cards haven't changed, respectively.
    You deleted 9.1 GB data from the external SD card but apparently did nothing else to change things, yet your "moved" apps stopped working - think there might be a connection? Actually, I don't think your app data is in the lost.dir folder, but I do think there is some on your external SD card if you have "moved" the apps. Using the DiskUsage app, I find that I have about 265MB of apps2SD data on my external SD card - here's a screen shot. I'm sure this is really the external SD card, because right above the Apps2SD section you'll note 44456MB for syncr, which is my 44GB or so of music stored on my external SD card; there's no room for that in internal phone memory. I think this external SD card app data may be "invisible" to some file management apps, which is probably why you're not seeing it.
    Attached Thumbnails Apps not really moving from device to SD card? What's this all about?-screenshot_2014-01-08-10-18-13.jpg  
    01-08-2014 10:12 AM
  25. jnoake's Avatar
    Found it:
    How To Install Android Apps On External SD card: No Rooting Required from areacellphone.com

    if the link goes dead, essentially, use adb and usb debugging to issue the following command:
    (Android version 4.0 and lower)
    adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2

    (Android version 4.x and high)
    adb shell pm set-install-location 2

    adb shell pm set-install-location 0
    puts it back to default.
    02-03-2014 04:51 PM
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