08-24-2013 01:46 AM
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  1. Aesthete18's Avatar
    I've had the phone for almost 2 months now and I've always felt the battery was poor but that's expected with these kinda phones. It was only yesterday that I paid attention to the details. You tell me if this is how it's suppose to be or if something's up.

    - Phone is on power saving mode the whole time
    - 9:30 a.m. Charged my phone to 100%
    - 11.00 a.m. Went offline, silent mode and didn't touch the phone till 9:15 p.m.
    - 9:15 p.m. Battery is at 92%
    - 9:30 p.m. I go online.
    - 9:30 p.m. till 8:30 a.m. I used the phone under 1 and half hours (few texts, draw something for about 45 minutes or so and checking some stuff online).
    - 8:30 a.m. Battery is at 26%

    Is it suppose to be like this? What kinda crap is this?! I hardly used the phone at it's practically drained while on power saving mode.
    08-19-2013 08:07 PM
  2. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Something seems to be draining overnight. Try installing a battery monitor like GSAM to get better info on what's using the battery. Also consider Wake Lock Detector, which can tell you if some app is disproportionately waking the device up to do random stuff (usually to access the web).
    08-19-2013 08:39 PM
  3. Yathani's Avatar
    Try battery doctor, specially if you are rooted.
    08-19-2013 08:45 PM
  4. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Something seems to be draining overnight. Try installing a battery monitor like GSAM to get better info on what's using the battery. Also consider Wake Lock Detector, which can tell you if some app is disproportionately waking the device up to do random stuff (usually to access the web).
    Try battery doctor, specially if you are rooted.
    Will try these and report back. Thanks.
    08-19-2013 09:04 PM
  5. garublador's Avatar
    What do you mean by "offline?"

    Do you mean that you totally disconnected from all internet sources (WiFi, 4G, etc) and your battery only went down 8% in 9.5 hours but then went down 66% in 12 hours with an hour and a half of screen time and an internet source?

    The first interesting thing to see would be to see how much battery your screen is taking in that time. If it's set real bright then it could be the main source of the drain.

    Also, do you have Google Now and all location services enabled? If you have Google Now running and allow Google apps to access your location your battery will drain the way you're describing.
    08-20-2013 09:12 AM
  6. Aesthete18's Avatar
    What do you mean by "offline?"

    Do you mean that you totally disconnected from all internet sources (WiFi, 4G, etc) and your battery only went down 8% in 9.5 hours but then went down 66% in 12 hours with an hour and a half of screen time and an internet source?

    The first interesting thing to see would be to see how much battery your screen is taking in that time. If it's set real bright then it could be the main source of the drain.

    Also, do you have Google Now and all location services enabled? If you have Google Now running and allow Google apps to access your location your battery will drain the way you're describing.
    Yes, offline as in disconnected from everything. It's not set bright i think it's at 20% or 30% brightness, I'm on power saving mode.

    I do have Google Now, I think that uses some of the battery because Google services seems to be eating a bit of the battery as well. Not sure how to disable all of it though.
    08-20-2013 09:39 AM
  7. tytlyf's Avatar
    you should try going into the apps you use and adjust their individual settings. SOunds like you have an auto-update or auto-sync enabled. The GSAM battery monitor should show you the app responsible.
    08-20-2013 09:49 AM
  8. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Something seems to be draining overnight. Try installing a battery monitor like GSAM to get better info on what's using the battery. Also consider Wake Lock Detector, which can tell you if some app is disproportionately waking the device up to do random stuff (usually to access the web).
    Okay so I tried GSAM. After I posted this, I didn't use the phone (fully charged, power saving, silent mode). 11 hours later, battery is at 56%. Battery information under settings say Google services ate up most of the battery.

    GSAM says - Screen - 12.9% / 17 minutes
    Phone Radio - 13.5% / 11 hours?!
    Held Awake - 3.1% / 6 hours?!
    App Usage - 68%

    First of all is the screen suppose to eat that much battery? and Phone Radio?! what the hell is that? I also don't know what the hell is Held Awake (phone being on?). Under Apps Usage, The OS, Nova and Google services used up the most of the battery, while Facebook, Instagram, Chaton, etc. used 0.1% which I know is not much but why is it being used, I haven't even used ChatOn since I got the phone.
    08-20-2013 09:59 AM
  9. Aesthete18's Avatar
    you should try going into the apps you use and adjust their individual settings. SOunds like you have an auto-update or auto-sync enabled. The GSAM battery monitor should show you the app responsible.
    How do I do this? auto-update is already turned off for a long time but auto-sync I'm not sure. There's a sync tab in the notification bar which I've already off a few days ago.
    08-20-2013 10:02 AM
  10. anon(6174973)'s Avatar
    How do I do this? auto-update is already turned off for a long time but auto-sync I'm not sure. There's a sync tab in the notification bar which I've already off a few days ago.
    Auto sync is in the accounts section

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    08-20-2013 10:03 AM
  11. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Auto sync is in the accounts section

    Sent from my HP Slate 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Just checked, everything's already disabled.
    08-20-2013 10:37 AM
  12. garublador's Avatar
    I do have Google Now, I think that uses some of the battery because Google services seems to be eating a bit of the battery as well. Not sure how to disable all of it though.
    The easiest way is to go into Maps>Settings>Google location settings and disable "Access location." That will stop all Google apps, including Maps from getting your location. It will not prevent other apps from getting it, though. I found that with all Now cards enabled and with Access location checked my phone checked my location about once every 42 seconds. With it off it's several minutes between checks unless I have some other feature that uses location a lot turned on. If that stuff is enabled this should make a fairly large difference.

    It's normal for the screen to use a lot of battery, even if it's set low.
    08-20-2013 10:57 AM
  13. tytlyf's Avatar
    Okay so I tried GSAM. After I posted this, I didn't use the phone (fully charged, power saving, silent mode). 11 hours later, battery is at 56%. Battery information under settings say Google services ate up most of the battery.

    GSAM says - Screen - 12.9% / 17 minutes
    Phone Radio - 13.5% / 11 hours?!
    Held Awake - 3.1% / 6 hours?!
    App Usage - 68%

    First of all is the screen suppose to eat that much battery? and Phone Radio?! what the hell is that? I also don't know what the hell is Held Awake (phone being on?). Under Apps Usage, The OS, Nova and Google services used up the most of the battery, while Facebook, Instagram, Chaton, etc. used 0.1% which I know is not much but why is it being used, I haven't even used ChatOn since I got the phone.
    So when you select the App usage, what programs eat up the most? Can you take a screenshot of the GSAM screenshots?

    Here's what mine looks like. When I had a rogue app (firefox) it was like 50% of the battery.

    08-20-2013 12:53 PM
  14. Aesthete18's Avatar
    The easiest way is to go into Maps>Settings>Google location settings and disable "Access location." That will stop all Google apps, including Maps from getting your location. It will not prevent other apps from getting it, though. I found that with all Now cards enabled and with Access location checked my phone checked my location about once every 42 seconds. With it off it's several minutes between checks unless I have some other feature that uses location a lot turned on. If that stuff is enabled this should make a fairly large difference.

    It's normal for the screen to use a lot of battery, even if it's set low.
    I haven't even accepted Maps' terms and conditions which means it hasn't been running this whole time.
    08-20-2013 02:09 PM
  15. Aesthete18's Avatar
    So when you select the App usage, what programs eat up the most? Can you take a screenshot of the GSAM screenshots?

    Here's what mine looks like. When I had a rogue app (firefox) it was like 50% of the battery.

    http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8396/fuc9.png




    It keeps going on for another 4 pages but the rest are at 0.0%
    08-20-2013 02:17 PM
  16. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Are you actually playing Draw 2 Free that much? If not, it might be doing stuff in the background that's using battery.
    08-20-2013 02:25 PM
  17. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Are you actually playing Draw 2 Free that much? If not, it might be doing stuff in the background that's using battery.
    Honestly no, I was just playing a bit before I posted the sceenshots, maybe around 15 minutes or so.

    What do you mean things in the background? How do I identify them? Could it be a virus or something?
    08-20-2013 02:40 PM
  18. B. Diddy's Avatar
    If the game used 33% of the 71% that's been used, that means it was responsible for about 22% battery drain, which seems a little excessive for only playing for 15 min. It could be remaining open in the background, possibly accessing the web (which would make sense, since you're probably playing against friends, and it might be checking constantly to see if your friends have made a move). Force closing it might not work, since apps can auto restart in Android. I suggest temporarily uninstalling the game, then see what the battery drain is like.

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    08-20-2013 03:50 PM
  19. Aesthete18's Avatar
    If the game used 33% of the 71% that's been used, that means it was responsible for about 22% battery drain, which seems a little excessive for only playing for 15 min. It could be remaining open in the background, possibly accessing the web (which would make sense, since you're probably playing against friends, and it might be checking constantly to see if your friends have made a move). Force closing it might not work, since apps can auto restart in Android. I suggest temporarily uninstalling the game, then see what the battery drain is like.

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    Sounds good. Will give it a go and report back. Thanks.
    08-20-2013 05:47 PM
  20. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Alright, so I uninstalled the game, charged it to full, turned off power saving and didn't use the phone. 12 hours later it's at 50%. Is that considered okay?

    Most of the battery is consumed by Google Services. What is that? and is there any way to disable it?
    08-21-2013 11:25 AM
  21. tytlyf's Avatar
    Google services could be the Google Now, Google + and other preinstalled programs by google. You may want to disable the ones you never use and additionally, open up the ones you do use and then go into their settings. From there you should be able to adjust syncing periods etc. I'm guessing you have some apps running and continually trying to sync.
    08-21-2013 11:28 AM
  22. Aesthete18's Avatar
    Google services could be the Google Now, Google + and other preinstalled programs by google. You may want to disable the ones you never use and additionally, open up the ones you do use and then go into their settings. From there you should be able to adjust syncing periods etc. I'm guessing you have some apps running and continually trying to sync.
    Under settings, it shows that Google services used up 50% of the battery but most of the things are already disabled I think. Google (the blue one) already has Google now off in the settings, Google Plus and Messenger I'm not even signed into. The only ones that are active were G Talk (which I just signed out off) and Gmail.

    Also, what's Phone Radio? is that something to do with the wi-fi, that seems to be eating battery as well.
    08-21-2013 11:43 AM
  23. STSVA's Avatar
    When I found Google Services eating up my battery at night, I fixed that by turning off "Location Services" in the settings. You may have already tried that, in which case it may be some other Google operation/app running in the background that's eating up your battery.
    Phone Radio is your cellphone voice service - your cellphone is basically a computerized two-way radio.
    08-21-2013 12:48 PM
  24. Aesthete18's Avatar
    When I found Google Services eating up my battery at night, I fixed that by turning off "Location Services" in the settings. You may have already tried that, in which case it may be some other Google operation/app running in the background that's eating up your battery.
    Phone Radio is your cellphone voice service - your cellphone is basically a computerized two-way radio.
    Yup, I turned it off along with signing out of Gtalk. Hopefully that'll be enough. Thanks for the info
    08-21-2013 01:43 PM
  25. tytlyf's Avatar
    Try to manage your google account as well under Settings>Accounts>Google. From there you can set additional syncing or non-syncing settings. Try turning off location reporting etc.
    08-21-2013 03:00 PM
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