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  1. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Charges limited? you can use any android charger and it works. I would recommend the 2 amp chargers. Dock station limited? for keyboards and monitors? there are so many options with bluetooth keyboards and hdmi cables you probably don't need a dock station
    Kies,isync? I don't use that. why cables? that's old school like iphones. Load your music to the google music cloud and play anything you want to the google music app. download straight to your phone if you want to.
    Google music player works great to play and download music from the music you buy. I exclusively used google music, it works great.
    Battery life is great. you must have sync on for every app or something.
    Chargers are limited. Most phones don't come with a 2 amp charger and if it's not 2 amps it doesn't really charge just keeps it from dying. I learned this the hard way using my coworkers charger.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-13-2013 02:15 PM
  2. edgefever's Avatar
    Both of them?

    Almost everyone I know with an Android had a bad phone, plus some that I don't know. So, there.
    More than 2 actually, 4 of them live in my house, and I happened to be the one who paid for those phones.
    09-13-2013 02:34 PM
  3. steviecapt's Avatar
    i personally couldnt care less how good i-phones are , or for that matter any apple product, there all overated, overpriced , if they brought their products in line with other manufacturers products prices i may look at them, until then, im definately not interested.
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    09-13-2013 04:44 PM
  4. Haalcyon's Avatar
    i personally couldnt care less how good i-phones are , or for that matter any apple product, there all overated, overpriced , if they brought their products in line with other manufacturers products prices i may look at them, until then, im definately not interested.
    Others feel that way too. It may be a while before Apple changes it way of doing things. I like Apple computers and am willing to pay a premium for them but I respect those that don't feel that way. As far as iOS? They'd have to change a bit...a lot before I'd turn my back on Android. There's just so much here. Something for everyone. There's raw for the folks that want raw and there's refinement for the folks, like me, that want refinement. There's a choice. Options. I love options.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
    09-13-2013 05:15 PM
  5. edgefever's Avatar
    I've had every iPhone (for no less than a day, at least), except for the 5s and 5c, and a few android phones (Evo 4G, Razr, Razr Maxx, S3, Note 2, and now, S4). I've not had any defects or problems with any...not even the Evo 4G and that's an HTC phone, if my memory serves me correctly. So I guess I'm either extremely lucky or some kind of freak (maybe a bit of both).

    Sent from the Xperia Tablet Z
    You have good luck. My wife is on her 3rd 4s in two years, son on his 2nd 4s in 2 years, twin daughters both on their 2nd 5 in 1 year.
    Buying my wife a 5s next Friday, wonder how many of those she gonna go thru? Me, I only buy Samsung for myself, never had to replace one.
    09-13-2013 05:42 PM
  6. Haalcyon's Avatar
    You have good luck. My wife is on her 3rd 4s in two years, son on his 2nd 4s in 2 years, twin daughters both on their 2nd 5 in 1 year.
    Buying my wife a 5s next Friday. Me, I only buy Samsung for myself, never had to replace one.
    Hmmm...is your family careful with their gear. Keep their phones cased and take pretty good care of them. ...or are they more like my stepdaughter, throws her phone down...doesn't use a screen protector...yadda yadda.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
    09-13-2013 05:56 PM
  7. edgefever's Avatar
    Hmmm...is your family careful with their gear. Keep their phones cased and take pretty good care of them. ...or are they more like my stepdaughter, throws her phone down...doesn't use a screen protector...yadda yadda.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
    All power buttons and head phone jacks
    09-13-2013 06:32 PM
  8. Haalcyon's Avatar
    I guess I'm lucky...we've had a lot of gear in this household and nothing has fallen apart. My stepdaughter did drop her iPad outside and crack the screen, but it still works so I made her live with the crack (since it didn't appear dangerous). We haven't lost any power buttons, or broken any headphone jacks. Knock on wood.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
    09-13-2013 06:38 PM
  9. edgefever's Avatar
    I know it sounds crazy, but I guess it is what it is. They all have cases and screen protectors. Verizon always switches them out for us so I'm not out any money just the hassle of it.
    09-13-2013 06:46 PM
  10. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Well THAT's cool...at least they get new(ish) equipment out of it.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
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    09-13-2013 06:56 PM
  11. edgefever's Avatar
    I think the ish part, may be one of my problems
    09-13-2013 07:07 PM
  12. pappy53's Avatar
    You have good luck. My wife is on her 3rd 4s in two years, son on his 2nd 4s in 2 years, twin daughters both on their 2nd 5 in 1 year.
    Buying my wife a 5s next Friday, wonder how many of those she gonna go thru? Me, I only buy Samsung for myself, never had to replace one.
    Sounds like they need to take better care of their phones. iPhones just don't normally break with that kind of regularity.
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    09-13-2013 07:22 PM
  13. return_0's Avatar
    Sounds like they need to take better care of their phones. iPhones just don't normally break with that kind of regularity.
    And neither do Android phones...
    09-13-2013 08:54 PM
  14. asanatheist's Avatar
    Sounds like they need to take better care of their phones. iPhones just don't normally break with that kind of regularity.
    Uhm. I've repaired or seen enough Iphones to know better.
    The Iphone 5 has approximately a 20% defect rate according to return rates between Apple and mfg (Foxconn).
    Apple Returns Millions of Defective iPhone 5 Smartphones
    09-13-2013 09:05 PM
  15. Haalcyon's Avatar
    And neither do Android phones...
    I, unfortunately, think there's too many OEMs with Android devices to apply that same perspective. They're not all Samsungs and Motorolas out there. There are some really crappy Android OEMs out there that are not known for the quality of their wares.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
    09-13-2013 09:06 PM
  16. pappy53's Avatar
    And neither do Android phones...
    Yeah, but it seems as though they do considerably more than iPhones. Over the years, I have read post after post where someone is on their 5th or 6th phone, or had so much trouble that Verizon switched them to another phone. I have read these many, many times, but hardly ever about an iPhone. I know that they malfunction, but not to the degree of Androids. And that probably has a lot to do with that #1 customer satisfaction rating for a few years now. The top-tier Androids are much better now, and I am strongly considering a Moto X, as I returned my iPhone 5 today.
    09-13-2013 09:10 PM
  17. edgefever's Avatar
    Sounds like they need to take better care of their phones. iPhones just don't normally break with that kind of regularity.
    They do, they're not little kids, college age and beyond, who knows why, the issues we are having just seem to be defects. Verizon seems to agree, since they never question the returned devices.
    09-13-2013 09:12 PM
  18. pappy53's Avatar
    Uhm. I've repaired or seen enough Iphones to know better.
    The Iphone 5 has approximately a 20% defect rate according to return rates between Apple and mfg (Foxconn).
    Apple Returns Millions of Defective iPhone 5 Smartphones
    Yeah, but those phones never reached the customers. It was a bad run of phones that Apple caught before they hit the market. They made Foxconn take them back because they were unfit to sell. Foxconn lost a bundle.
    09-13-2013 09:17 PM
  19. pappy53's Avatar
    Uhm. I've repaired or seen enough Iphones to know better
    Don't even try to say that iPhone breaks down as much as Androids. It just doesn't happen, and part of that reason is the cheap Android junk that some companies put on the market. They really hurt Android.
    09-13-2013 09:23 PM
  20. festinator's Avatar
    Don't even try to say that iPhone breaks down as much as Androids. It just doesn't happen, and part of that reason is the cheap Android junk that some companies put on the market. They really hurt Android.
    Why are you comparing iphones to the cheap android junk? That doesn't seem like a very fair comparison. Compare them to the actual top end android phones and then you can make a fair comparison.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
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    09-13-2013 09:32 PM
  21. asanatheist's Avatar
    Yeah, but those phones never reached the customers. It was a bad run of phones that Apple caught before they hit the market. They made Foxconn take them back because they were unfit to sell. Foxconn lost a bundle.
    Customer or not. Defects are defects are defects. The fact Apple had to return 5-8 million of them at once because their own QC caught them speaks volumes.
    Lastly there was the whole fiasco of scratches, dinged, or nicked iphone 5 aluminum bezels or glass out of the box. Plus many others.

    If you think a CNC'ed aluminum chassis magically makes hardware better, then believe what you want but truth is motherboards for a $400 smartphone or $800 smartphone have to be manufactured in the same factory or by the same companies throughout various factories. Batteries are the same. Processors as well. Etc etc etc.

    The difference between Apple, and a cheaper android phone? R&D, and Quality control. Apple's QC is not better than anyone else's.
    Their customer service however is.
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    09-13-2013 09:36 PM
  22. pappy53's Avatar
    Why are you comparing iphones to the cheap android junk? That doesn't seem like a very fair comparison. Compare them to the actual top end android phones and then you can make a fair comparison.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
    I am comparing iPhone to Android, and unfortunately the cheap junk is part of Android. And I did state that the cheap stuff was hurting Android.
    09-13-2013 09:46 PM
  23. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Yeah, but those phones never reached the customers. It was a bad run of phones that Apple caught before they hit the market. They made Foxconn take them back because they were unfit to sell. Foxconn lost a bundle.
    Most iPhone repairs are because people drop and crack the screen which was severely decreased when the less glass iphone 5 came out.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-13-2013 09:47 PM
  24. pappy53's Avatar
    The difference between Apple, and a cheaper android phone? R&D, and Quality control. Apple's QC is not better than anyone else's.
    Their build quality is second to none, and their assembly tolerances are the tightest in the business.
    09-13-2013 09:48 PM
  25. Haalcyon's Avatar
    There are those that would actually say the HTC One or S4 has better build quality than the iPhone 4. Now, I have an S4, and I love it but there's no way in h*** either of the latter phones are built better than the iPhone 4. Now the iPhone 5? I just can't get over how fragile that phone feels. It'll scratch if you fart too close to it.

    The Order Odonata. There can be only one.
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    09-13-2013 09:52 PM
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