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  1. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    Despite my frustrations with this phone (mostly down to Google Play restrictions, and synching) I would say the apps are no worse than the IPhone. My Iphone4 lasted 2 years and is still working fine (for my daughter) but I only wanted to change for the sake of changing. I had no issues at all with my Iphone, but the ones I have with the S4 are annoying me, because I want to enjoy it!
    If it's Google, it will surely sync. If it's apple to Google, it won't well. That's the way it works I'm afraid, Apple locks you down. On my android devices, all my stuff syncs flawlessly and I can stream my music on my computer (pc).

    Posted by The Android Central app
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    08-30-2013 09:19 AM
  2. pablohoney46's Avatar
    Android is not iPhone. There are different ways of doing certain things. It sounds like you are more comfortable with the iPhone and that is fine. Each user has their preferences. I wouldn't post an opinion statement saying the iPhone is better than the s4 because it's an opinion but more importantly you aren't going to get any help or support on this forum with a title like that.

    Sent from my HTC One using AC Forums mobile app
    Yeah, but I did get help and support, even with the crazy title! Imagine that :-)
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    08-30-2013 09:19 AM
  3. pablohoney46's Avatar
    That's because Google play music works differently, all downloaded music is stored in a cache folder and only it knows where it is. And most people use the cloud, which is why it doesn't always save to your device. Google has implemented the idea of steaming and cloud into most of its products, and that's the way it works. If you want it downloaded though, they give you the option. They work a little differently, it's certainly not apple. However, I like it better this way because I have more room on my phone

    Posted by The Android Central app
    Thanks again - I travel a lot, so cloud not always available. If I never left my house, or the town, that would be fine, but music staying in the cloud and not on my phone wont work for many. But at least I now have the solution for downloading it, so many thanks again for that.
    08-30-2013 09:23 AM
  4. willizen's Avatar
    Hyperbole much?

    Posted via my Nexus 7
    08-30-2013 09:29 AM
  5. willizen's Avatar
    I disagree with you that the apps on android are of less quality than iOS. Granted, choppiness and lag still exist on some android apps that aren't programmed that well. And Android is quite open, but the carriers are changing that. They're locking down everything, but the developers are working hard to unlock the phones. Personally, I only run custom. I don't like my phones getting chopped up by the carrier. That's one thing apple nails, not letting the carriers screw with the experience. Android is an amazing OS, it's just unlocking it's full capabilities

    Posted by The Android Central app
    There are some shining examples of great apps on android that are just as good as the some of the best iOS apps. Unfortunately that is not the case with most of the apps I have used.

    Posted via my Nexus 7
    08-30-2013 09:32 AM
  6. hallda01's Avatar
    Can't say I have a good argument against his Samsung Kies and iSyncr complaint. I just manually copy my music over in Android File Transfer. There's no really good way to get your music to your phone from iTunes unless you have Spotify or Google+ Music pretty much.
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    08-30-2013 09:50 AM
  7. htabbach's Avatar
    To the OP, I don't blame you man, I switched from Android to iOS and will never go back. Android being "Open" is the biggest overstatement in the mobile industry, yes, it is open source but unless you really root it is useless. And the fragmentation will kill you, it is hard to watch other Android phones get updates and your phone does not for months! Add to that the LAG and you will be real miserable!
    08-30-2013 10:52 AM
  8. Edible Walrus's Avatar
    My phone lasts only about 10 hours, but I'm a heavy user with the screen all the way up. It all comes down to how you use the phone

    Posted by The Android Central app
    Try AVG. I've set mine to trigger power save at 10% (previously 30), might extend your battery further. I had what I'd call moderate use (in reality it's probably light :P) and got 20 hours
    08-30-2013 10:54 AM
  9. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    There are some shining examples of great apps on android that are just as good as the some of the best iOS apps. Unfortunately that is not the case with most of the apps I have used.

    Posted via my Nexus 7
    Fragmentation my friend, fragmentation. Too many devices to program perfectly for. That's the real issue. If I was a developer, I would make sure the high end devices had excellent speed and smoothness with the apps I made, and then I would work my way down to the lower end devices. That way, most of us with super fancy phones get an experience that's fast and smooth.

    Sent from the Android Central app
    08-30-2013 11:30 AM
  10. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    Try AVG. I've set mine to trigger power save at 10% (previously 30), might extend your battery further. I had what I'd call moderate use (in reality it's probably light :P) and got 20 hours
    Yeah, but I run custom. I have a high clock speed and on demand governor which doesn't help. It's more my fault than anything. But if it doesn't blaze through things, it's not for me.

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 11:39 AM
  11. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    To the OP, I don't blame you man, I switched from Android to iOS and will never go back. Android being "Open" is the biggest overstatement in the mobile industry, yes, it is open source but unless you really root it is useless. And the fragmentation will kill you, it is hard to watch other Android phones get updates and your phone does not for months! Add to that the LAG and you will be real miserable!
    This is the very reason people root. Don't go bashing android without trying out its true potential by rooting. And lag? Very little on my phone, and it's only in bad apps like Facebook (shame on them for not fixing that yet). In my opinion, Android crushes ios. But hey, this isn't the place for a android and ios fight.

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 01:38 PM
  12. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    There were just so many things wrong with switching I wound up going back to the iPhone 4S within a month. I'm also looking forward to getting iOS 7 in a few weeks. How many 2 year old Android phones still get updates when they are 2 years old?

    I encourage you to try Android, but don't get rid of the iPhone just yet. Fast CPUs and a big screen don't equal happiness. And as far as openness, I found the Android system so locked down with locked bootloaders and Verizon bloatware that saying Android is open is a joke.

    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk - now Free

    First off, you wont get all of iOS 7. You will get bits and pieces and the coolest stuff will be left out. Apple tells you that they update their phones but it's a partial update. Most Android phones get replaced after two years because of better devices on the market. I would rather get the full and complete OS updates before I upgrade my phone, then to be told i'm getting updated only to find half the features "aren't compatible" because of my old hardware.

    Second, It only takes a little research to know that nothing about Verizon is "open" whether it's Android or iOS. That's Verizon's fault, and not Android. But even with a Verizon Android device, you can do so much more with it than an iPhone in terms of the "openness". You can't hate or rag on Android for not being open when you love the iPhone. It makes no sense.

    I would love to get the iPhone if they'd have a larger screen option available. I think they are built very well and I would like to see how it is. But until they can get a decent sized screen i'll stick with Android so I don't need a telescope attachment.
    08-30-2013 01:46 PM
  13. bearda's Avatar
    I have to respectfully disagree with you on the chargers point. Apple does enjoy a great deal of third party support, but microUSB is everywhere. Especially compared the the newer lightning connector. microUSB is currently the most common DC delivery port out there, having overtaken miniUSB and barrel jacks a while ago.

    Apple does enjoy a bit of an advantage when it comes to docks, but I'd much rather use the Qi charging back with the S4 and use an inductive charging pad than a dock anyway. YMMV.
    08-30-2013 02:22 PM
  14. Ed_T's Avatar
    battery lasts great depending on usage
    08-30-2013 03:03 PM
  15. Maria Esponoza's Avatar
    I really really love Google Play Music. It is like $7.99 a month and has like every song/album I could ever want. I highly recommend it for anyone that loves mobile music. I throw on Play Music and run everyday.
    08-30-2013 03:13 PM
  16. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    I really really love Google Play Music. It is like $7.99 a month and has like every song/album I could ever want. I highly recommend it for anyone that loves mobile music. I throw on Play Music and run everyday.
    I really like Google play music as well, but I use spotify because you can keep signing up for the free trial and have premium. It doesn't record your device number so you can make unlimited accounts. You didn't hear that from me though

    Posted by The Android Central app
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    08-30-2013 03:21 PM
  17. Jay Sacks's Avatar
    The war is over. Android is here to stay. Who cares if you like your iPhone better. Isn't there an "iPhone sandbox"?

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using AC Forums mobile app
    08-30-2013 03:35 PM
  18. Maria Esponoza's Avatar
    Thanks for the info! Good to know. :P

    Does Spotify have like whole albums or just streaming radio? Sorry, I've never tried it. Also, love the avatar! haha

    I really like Google play music as well, but I use spotify because you can keep signing up for the free trial and have premium. It doesn't record your device number so you can make unlimited accounts. You didn't here that from me though

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 03:40 PM
  19. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    Thanks for the info! Good to know. :P

    Does Spotify have like whole albums or just streaming radio? Sorry, I've never tried it. Also, love the avatar! haha
    It has whole albums with premium, which is awesome. The app is a little glitchy still, but if you're willing to work around some of the errors it saves 8-10 bucks a month. And the radio is free either way, so you can not be premium and still listen to music stations if you want.

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 03:45 PM
  20. htabbach's Avatar
    This is the very reason people root. Don't go bashing android without trying out its true potential by rooting. And lag? Very little on my phone, and it's only in bad apps like Facebook (shame on them for not fixing that yet). In my opinion, Android crushes ios. But hey, this isn't the place for a android and ios fight.

    Posted by The Android Central app
    Well, an iPhone can be jailbroken and you can customize the hell out of it too! The Lag issue is well documented man! And I used Android for 3 years before the switch to iOS and rooted all my phones too so I know what I am talking about.
    08-30-2013 03:51 PM
  21. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    Well, an iPhone can be jailbroken and you can customize the hell out of it too! The Lag issue is well documented man! And I used Android for 3 years before the switch to iOS and rooted all my phones too so I know what I am talking about.
    That's your opinion about the lag, no need to force it on other people. I haven't seen the lag, and many other people haven't as well on android phones. I love my phone, my lag free fast as hell superphone. If you want to talk crap about android, I'm sure one of the wonderful moderators will be willing to ship you over to imore if you want

    Posted by The Android Central app
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    08-30-2013 03:56 PM
  22. swent1's Avatar
    That's your opinion about the lag, no need to force it on other people. I haven't seen the lag, and many other people haven't as well on android phones. I love my phone, my lag free fast as hell superphone. If you want to talk crap about android, I'm sure one of the wonderful moderators will be willing to ship you over to imore if you want

    Posted by The Android Central app
    I had iPhones for years. Finally made the switch to the S4 back in May and couldn't be happier. My whole household is pure Apple. Phones, desktops, laptops, apple tv, you name it, apple. Except for mine and my boyfriends new S4s. I find that people switching over complain about issues that they should've researched a bit before first. I knew about the bit of lag, the fact that it isn't like iTunes for syncing, and other stuff, so there was no expectation or let down after the switch. It's all about finding what is right for you, with your settings, apps and software to manage the phone. I find that Apple users are just very accustomed to always having the answer in front of them. And thats not a bad thing, just Android doesn't make one way to do something and thats it like Apple. If you don't like that idea, then maybe Android isn't for you. Bothers me when people bash Android over things they should have researched before since iOS and Android are so completely different.

    And my phone had a tiny bit of lag, but that was easily fixed with developer options and a launcher. So I agree with you. Just because something is well documented doesn't mean its on every phone. Apple users seem to be a bit more defensive these days since Android is becoming so popular lol ..
    08-30-2013 04:30 PM
  23. Haalcyon's Avatar
    IOS is so much simpler than Android and that can be both good and bad. I like all the different things you can do with android to make a device uniquely yours and customized to fit your desires and styles. On the other hand, I appreciate the "known quantity" of iOS. For the most part you can take for granted that you're gonna get a flawless well-designed device when you buy an Apple product, yes there have been exceptions. Even if you prefer something else. There's so many great android phones but some are problematic. iOS is simple and unintimidating because there's so few to no inherent opportunities for customization. iOS hardware is pretty nice and the software is simple (some people like this). I like my S4 but am seriously considering an iPad as my tablet as I keep being disappointed when I try to find a great Android tablet that I can actually hold before purchasing. The Nexus 10? None of my local retailers carry it. The 7? Kinda small and for **** sake Monoply doesn't even work on it (deal breaker!). EA, you stink for that. I'm vested in both ecosystems as I've used both over the years. There's really positives and negatives about both.
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    08-30-2013 04:32 PM
  24. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    I had iPhones for years. Finally made the switch to the S4 back in May and couldn't be happier. My whole household is pure Apple. Phones, desktops, laptops, apple tv, you name it, apple. Except for mine and my boyfriends new S4s. I find that people switching over complain about issues that they should've researched a bit before first. I knew about the bit of lag, the fact that it isn't like iTunes for syncing, and other stuff, so there was no expectation or let down after the switch. It's all about finding what is right for you, with your settings, apps and software to manage the phone. I find that Apple users are just very accustomed to always having the answer in front of them. And thats not a bad thing, just Android doesn't make one way to do something and thats it like Apple. If you don't like that idea, then maybe Android isn't for you. Bothers me when people bash Android over things they should have researched before since iOS and Android are so completely different.

    And my phone had a tiny bit of lag, but that was easily fixed with developer options and a launcher. So I agree with you. Just because something is well documented doesn't mean its on every phone. Apple users seem to be a bit more defensive these days since Android is becoming so popular lol ..
    Exactly, I couldn't have said it better. Apple should be worried, and honestly I think the ifans are worried that they might be overthrown by Android. I know recently I've been seeing a lot more galaxy devices in my area, and it's hard to explain how happy that makes me. I'm glad people are joining the Android empire =)

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 04:34 PM
  25. CaptainBroflovski's Avatar
    IOS is so much simpler than Android and that can be both good and bad. I like all the different things you can do with android to make a device uniquely yours and customized to fit your desires and styles. On the other hand, I appreciate the "known quantity" of iOS. For the most part you can take for granted that you're gonna get a flawless well-designed device when you buy an Apple product, yes there have been exceptions. Even if you prefer something else. There's so many great android phones but some are problematic. iOS is simple and unintimidating because there's so few to no inherent opportunities for customization. iOS hardware is pretty nice and the software is simple (some people like this). I like my S4 but am seriously considering an iPad as my tablet as I keep being disappointed when I try to find a great Android tablet that I can actually hold before purchasing. The Nexus 10? None of my local retailers carry it. The 7? Kinda small and for **** sake Monoply doesn't even work on it (deal breaker!). EA, you stink for that. I'm vested in both ecosystems as I've used both over the years. There's really positives and negatives about both.

    Yes there is positives with both. Seeing you like the s4 already, have you looked at the new galaxy tablets? They're like tablets that were hand crafted in heaven!

    Posted by The Android Central app
    08-30-2013 04:36 PM
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