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  1. Daniel Crispin's Avatar
    I know for a fact u had a bad unit.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
    What can I do about it. Does Samsung support their products at all?
    09-30-2013 07:13 AM
  2. Daniel Crispin's Avatar
    Yup. And, posts on a forum are a great source of data. Solid scientific stuff. Better than actual experience, by far.

    The fact that this poster is having problems that basically don't exist should be a clue as to how rock solid that is. I have listened to music on my sd card from the day I bought the phone.

    I am of the opinion that their are legitimate reasons to prefer one OS over the other. IOS 7 exudes a feel of elegance and simplicity that some may prefer over the customization of android, and the hardware is gorgeous. I still am going to stick with my S4, but I see why others prefer iPhone. But, rather than key on that real stuff you basically fabricate random junk that isn't true and then cite random posts from unhappy owners as evidence.

    Not trying to flame you, but that is pretty weak. If you have really used both systems you ought to be able to come up with something that is at least factually correct.
    Are you calling me a liar ?
    09-30-2013 07:16 AM
  3. Daniel Crispin's Avatar
    There is room for a thoughtful iPhone vs s4 discussion. IOS 7 is a gorgeous os, as is Jelly bean. And, the s4 and iPhone are two of the worlds most popular phones. Lots to compare.

    Problem is that the conversation is getting bogged down with folk who have never even used the S4 and have an ax to grind.

    I would much rather see some informed discussions about the actual features of each phone by posters who have really evaluated the two.

    Oh well. Guess that was too much to ask.......
    No you don't. I have been using the S4 for several months (got mine the day it came out after waiting for 3 months) and this is after using the iPhone 3gs for 3.5 years. When I tell you about my experience you call me a liar. So stop trying to appear neutral and wanting information, you just want people to say what you want, and what you want is to hear you have the best phone in the world and Apple can't compete.
    09-30-2013 07:22 AM
  4. Daniel Crispin's Avatar
    The thing is, most people that have extensively used both, like myself, don't really have much bad to say about either Lol.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    That's how it should be. They are phones. You should be able to pick them up and use them. They should do what they are supposed to. That was my experience with my iPhone. It just worked. With my S4 it's been completelly different, got to fight it every step of the way. I truelly wished it was different. I chose this phone for the georgous 5 inch display and the amazing dual quad processor. I was expecting a Ferrari but got a Corolla instead. The phone is still faster than my 3gs, it should be with 4 years of advancements behind it. And if it was the only issue (speed) I would be perfectly fine with it. But voice control is killing me. I wanted Siri but got Bob the 5 year old instead. Last night I experienced something new with S-voice: Everytime I made a request it replied: "Unexpected server error, please try again"... just great....
    09-30-2013 07:30 AM
  5. DroidArmy's Avatar
    Are you calling me a liar ?
    *eating popcorn watching the fight begin*
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    09-30-2013 07:30 AM
  6. Daniel Crispin's Avatar
    Kies is some horrible software.
    Never used Kies, I see no use for it. Internally there is a file transfer software that works great and when you plug the phone in you can do standard file transfers from the PC. Maybe Kies is for Mac users? Dono...
    09-30-2013 07:34 AM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    Please keep conversations civil and on topic. Disruptive posting, personal attacks and inappropriate language are not acceptable. If you have an issue with a post, please either ignore it and move on or hit the report button if you feel it violates the forum rules & polices. Thread has been cleaned up.
    2nd request (in less than 24 hours) sounds the same as the first time. Let's try to play nice and avoid jumping to conclusions about the motivations of other members.
    09-30-2013 07:35 AM
  8. STARGATE's Avatar
    I am a Dolphins fan. I've been in agony a long time.
    My teams are the San Francisco 49ers and the Oakland Raiders.
    So I know how it feels to be in agony when your team doesn't do as you expect it. :banghead:

    Sent From a Galaxy S4 Away!
    09-30-2013 07:55 AM
  9. FishenFool's Avatar
    Hum... are you saying I can replace S-Voice by Dragon to control the phone? I need to be able to voice dial, make requests like time and all that verbally. I also need to be able to activate it through the use of the button on the headset.
    Dragon Mobile Assistant is what I replaced S-Voice with after I turned off the double tap setting in S-Voice then disabled S-Voice. I just tap the button on my Blueant Q2 and say "phone command" then wait for the beep that lets me know Dragon is ready.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-30-2013 07:55 AM
  10. STARGATE's Avatar
    8-10 hours is even worst than what I get. I don't go anywhere I didn't with my iPhone... and I am on the same carrier so signal strenght should be the same for my new phone.
    Okay... Have in mind I use it heavily. If I remember well, you said you only use it 2 or 3 times a day and you made it sound as if you got only a few hours out of it.
    Also, newer iPhones don't give you as much battery juice like your old 3gs. More processing power and displays using more power, etc, etc...

    If I use my phone almost like you; 2 or 3 times a day, the battery will normally last more then 20 hours.

    Sent From a Galaxy S4 Away!
    09-30-2013 08:04 AM
  11. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Yes, I doubt you could use it in the phone if you did not format it. First time around it worked fine, I was able to transfer all my media, my dropbox material and everything to it. I just realised yesterday that the phone can't see the files anymore.
    SD cards come pre formatted. You would definitely be able to use it even if you didn't format it while it was in the phone.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
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    09-30-2013 08:11 AM
  12. DroidArmy's Avatar
    SD cards come pre formatted. You would definitely be able to use it even if you didn't format it while it was in the phone.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    This is extremely useful to have the cards come pre-formatted. I don't want to have to format something just so I can throw a few megabytes worth of music on it. It saves time
    09-30-2013 08:31 AM
  13. asanatheist's Avatar
    Discouraged over posts about a PHONE? Wow. It's just a phone.
    Hardly so, I am discouraged by like minded individuals such as yourself negatively influencing the community.
    So yes I get discouraged when I see a community I enjoy, turn to a thread like this. Phones have little to do with that.
    Also I don't prowl hours on end defending, or bashing phones. I am not saying that you do the previously mentioned but in the high probability that you did, wouldn't that be ironic?
    09-30-2013 08:32 AM
  14. DroidArmy's Avatar
    Okay... Have in mind I use it heavily. If I remember well, you said you only use it 2 or 3 times a day and you made it sound as if you got only a few hours out of it.
    Also, newer iPhones don't give you as much battery juice like your old 3gs. More processing power and displays using more power, etc, etc...

    If I use my phone almost like you; 2 or 3 times a day, the battery will normally last more then 20 hours.

    Sent From a Galaxy S4 Away!
    With my Galaxy I can get about 10 hours max during my work day and a full day during the weekends. It all depends on how much you use the phone and how you use it
    09-30-2013 08:33 AM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    That's how it should be. They are phones. You should be able to pick them up and use them. They should do what they are supposed to. That was my experience with my iPhone. It just worked. With my S4 it's been completelly different, got to fight it every step of the way. I truelly wished it was different. I chose this phone for the georgous 5 inch display and the amazing dual quad processor. I was expecting a Ferrari but got a Corolla instead. The phone is still faster than my 3gs, it should be with 4 years of advancements behind it. And if it was the only issue (speed) I would be perfectly fine with it. But voice control is killing me. I wanted Siri but got Bob the 5 year old instead. Last night I experienced something new with S-voice: Everytime I made a request it replied: "Unexpected server error, please try again"... just great....
    Why not use google now?

    Sent from my T-Mobile HTC One using AC Forums.
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    09-30-2013 08:34 AM
  16. DroidArmy's Avatar
    That's how it should be. They are phones. You should be able to pick them up and use them. They should do what they are supposed to. That was my experience with my iPhone. It just worked. With my S4 it's been completelly different, got to fight it every step of the way. I truelly wished it was different. I chose this phone for the georgous 5 inch display and the amazing dual quad processor. I was expecting a Ferrari but got a Corolla instead. The phone is still faster than my 3gs, it should be with 4 years of advancements behind it. And if it was the only issue (speed) I would be perfectly fine with it. But voice control is killing me. I wanted Siri but got Bob the 5 year old instead. Last night I experienced something new with S-voice: Everytime I made a request it replied: "Unexpected server error, please try again"... just great....
    It's the exact opposite with me. With my Galaxy s3 I tell it to do something and it does it. With my iPhone (which was an iPhone 5) I had to do a lot of fighting with it. I remember the data usage issue being a huge problem with the AT&T version on IOS 6, and it always caused me problems. It's an issue that never really got solved for me. Even though my phone has a few issues (like the slightest burn in from all of my texting and such) it's still light-years ahead of my iPhone.
    09-30-2013 08:38 AM
  17. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    Are you calling me a liar ?
    Nope. I am saying you are encountering a set of circumstances that are unusual and don't replicate under normal circumstances.
    09-30-2013 09:26 AM
  18. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    This is extremely useful to have the cards come pre-formatted. I don't want to have to format something just so I can throw a few megabytes worth of music on it. It saves time
    Very true, but when you put a memory card in anything (phone, camera, external memory for your computer), you should format it to prevent corruption in the future. Formatting also takes about 30 seconds, its not really much of an inconvenience to safeguard. I like to play it safe lol

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-30-2013 09:31 AM
  19. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    No you don't. I have been using the S4 for several months (got mine the day it came out after waiting for 3 months) and this is after using the iPhone 3gs for 3.5 years. When I tell you about my experience you call me a liar. So stop trying to appear neutral and wanting information, you just want people to say what you want, and what you want is to hear you have the best phone in the world and Apple can't compete.

    Sigh. You all need to relax. This is a discussion about PHONES. Stop with all the personal stuff.

    I don't believe the s4 is "better" than the iPhone. I do believe it is different and the differences warrant discussion.

    I do not claim "neutrality." I like android a lot better.

    I also believe that the problems you are having are unusual and will probably not occur for others. One can quite easily play music from the sd card so if particular users how can't for some very specific set of circumstances doesn't say much about the devices.
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    09-30-2013 09:34 AM
  20. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    That's how it should be. They are phones. You should be able to pick them up and use them. They should do what they are supposed to. That was my experience with my iPhone. It just worked. With my S4 it's been completelly different, got to fight it every step of the way. I truelly wished it was different. I chose this phone for the georgous 5 inch display and the amazing dual quad processor. I was expecting a Ferrari but got a Corolla instead. The phone is still faster than my 3gs, it should be with 4 years of advancements behind it. And if it was the only issue (speed) I would be perfectly fine with it. But voice control is killing me. I wanted Siri but got Bob the 5 year old instead. Last night I experienced something new with S-voice: Everytime I made a request it replied: "Unexpected server error, please try again"... just great....

    Well, there is no doubt that an Android requires a lot more upkeep and setup than an iPhone. I would also say that the effort you need is even greater with the S4 than other Android phones. I feel like I spent a bit of time defeating all the crapware on the phone.

    I also feel like the end result is a phone that is more fun to use and more powerful overall.

    Ymmv.
    09-30-2013 09:41 AM
  21. badbrad17's Avatar
    Actually, I can discuss it, as I have read hundreds of posts on this and other sites that are written by owners of the S4, and they are having lag issues. And, if I am reading correctly, you are saying that you had to optimize the S4 so there would be no lag. That shouldn't have to be done on a device that costs that much. I shouldn't have said that I have never had one, because I did get one and return it within the VZW 14 day period. I just don't consider less than 2 weeks as ownership. I returned it mainly for battery life, but it did have the lag issue. But that occurred before the update.
    The lag issues lasted all of 2 weeks. Once the update came out things were fixed. One of my staff just got a new S4 the other day. There is no lag at all. It's silky smooth and fast as a phone needs to be. Lets move on in regards to this topic. It's something based on software issues from the initial launch not an ongoing problem months later.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
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    09-30-2013 10:13 AM
  22. pappy53's Avatar
    The lag issues lasted all of 2 weeks. Once the update came out things were fixed. One of my staff just got a new S4 the other day. There is no lag at all. It's silky smooth and fast as a phone needs to be. Lets move on in regards to this topic. It's something based on software issues from the initial launch not an ongoing problem months later.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
    I hope that you are right, as I think that I am going to try another one post update. The Moto X is nice, but I'm leery of the camera fix. If all else fails, I can always go back to an iPhone 5, which has a great camera and absolutely no lag.
    09-30-2013 10:35 AM
  23. DroidArmy's Avatar
    I hope that you are right, as I think that I am going to try another one post update. The Moto X is nice, but I'm leery of the camera fix. If all else fails, I can always go back to an iPhone 5, which has a great camera and absolutely no lag.
    I highly recommend the galaxy s4, it really is a great phone. Either way, you have the iPhone 5 (my second favorite phone on the market) available if you don't like it
    09-30-2013 10:37 AM
  24. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    I hope that you are right, as I think that I am going to try another one post update. The Moto X is nice, but I'm leery of the camera fix. If all else fails, I can always go back to an iPhone 5, which has a great camera and absolutely no lag.
    Don't kill me for suggesting this, but I think an iPhone might be the best option for you. You sound like somebody who values rock steady stability and is not willing to futz around and you also want a great camera that always works. That all sounds like iPhone to me.

    A month ago, I would have been more skeptical about making that recommendation. But, I really do enjoy IOS 7. Honestly, if IOS had a swype like keyboard, and allowed for icons to be assigned to folders (so I don't have all those goofy boxes on the homescreen), I probably would have one right now.
    09-30-2013 12:50 PM
  25. DroidArmy's Avatar
    Don't kill me for suggesting this, but I think an iPhone might be the best option for you. You sound like somebody who values rock steady stability and is not willing to futz around and you also want a great camera that always works. That all sounds like iPhone to me.

    A month ago, I would have been more skeptical about making that recommendation. But, I really do enjoy IOS 7. Honestly, if IOS had a swype like keyboard, and allowed for icons to be assigned to folders (so I don't have all those goofy boxes on the homescreen), I probably would have one right now.
    Pappy has an iPhone currently, and he seems to like it a lot. I have no idea why he wants to get the s4 if he already really likes his iPhone
    09-30-2013 12:54 PM
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