09-25-2013 04:57 PM
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  1. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Being a iPhone user since 2007 and switching to the S4 back in July, I have to say, of all of the things I miss from iOS is the app quality/design. I'm not sure if Apple keeps devs on the ball, but their app quality is MUCH better than Android. So much so, I'm thinking about switching back (I really love the bigger screen and the Android sharing capabilities, however). Just look at how many apps were ready to go for the iOS 7 redesign - all the major apps too (Facebook, Twitter, New York Times, Evernote, etc.), not just one offs. I just don't see something like that happening with Android, if they decided to go for a redesign for Android 4.4 or 5.0. I still don't understand why Android still allows the time to be show nice and big on the lock screen AND show the time in the status bar at the same time. iOS 7 got this part right.
    I use Carbon for my Twitter so it's as polished as i'd ever need. Basically the apps I use A LOT are great on Android. So really that's not been a big downfall. I picked up my iPod Classic that I bought in 2008 and it still feels solid and works great. And I thought to myself.......I would kill for a Smartphone that could theoretically last this long and still impress me in the way it feels and responds. I LOVE my S3 but I don't think it would ever last that long. However, the iPhone might last a long time but I don't know if I could be miserable the whole time I had it because of the non-inspiring Operating System. My coworker just got to work after waiting in line at Verizon for the new iPhone and she let me play with it for a while and go through the menus and such, and I just had the same "blah" feeling that I did after the iPhone 5. They HAVE to get bigger screens on those mothers. Looking at a tiny, elongated 4" screen just doesn't do it for me.
    09-20-2013 01:26 PM
  2. Farish's Avatar
    I use Carbon for my Twitter so it's as polished as i'd ever need. Basically the apps I use A LOT are great on Android. So really that's not been a big downfall. I picked up my iPod Classic that I bought in 2008 and it still feels solid and works great. And I thought to myself.......I would kill for a Smartphone that could theoretically last this long and still impress me in the way it feels and responds. I LOVE my S3 but I don't think it would ever last that long. However, the iPhone might last a long time but I don't know if I could be miserable the whole time I had it because of the non-inspiring Operating System. My coworker just got to work after waiting in line at Verizon for the new iPhone and she let me play with it for a while and go through the menus and such, and I just had the same "blah" feeling that I did after the iPhone 5. They HAVE to get bigger screens on those mothers. Looking at a tiny, elongated 4" screen just doesn't do it for me.
    The same word you use describes exactly how I feel about the new iPhone.

    Blah
    09-20-2013 01:31 PM
  3. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Sigh
    Yah... The phone number of an iphone. If it's not blue it's sms. Once you text a non iOS device it's green...

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-20-2013 01:39 PM
  4. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    The same word you use describes exactly how I feel about the new iPhone.

    Blah
    It seemed like a great device. But it didn't feel or appear ANY different in any way from the 5. And really, the screen size isn't significant over the 4s or 4. I really want to give the iPhone a try because i've only ever used Android extensively. I want to see for SURE if iOS is as boring day-to-day as it is just when i'm briefly exploring. I don't use the term: "blah" to be offensive in any way and I hope it's not received as such. It's just that in order to switch, I have to be wowed. I was wowed when I activated my sister's Nexus 4. I was wowed when I got the Jelly Bean update on my S3. I was wowed when I messed around with my Brother's Note 2 last year. I just don't get that with the iPhone. I even dislike how light they are. I prefer the slightly hefty feel of the older iPhones because it made me feel more like it was REAL. Like the metal and the quality was there. Now they're so light (which some people love) that it feels like it's a fake product or something.

    I have to have that WOW factor if i'm going to switch to iOS and it's just massively lacking for me. Yesterday my other coworker with a 4s got the iOS 7 update and was testing to see if Apple really did improve Siri. She asked it to show her a map of africa, and it said sorry, it didn't understand her request. So she asked it where is africa, and it still couldn't figure it out. So I asked Google Now where Africa was and got a map, a satellite image, and a ton of webpage links to info about Africa. Apple certainly makes a quality device and some people absolutely love them. I just haven't been swept off my feet by Apple like I have with some Android devices.
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    09-20-2013 01:47 PM
  5. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    Message Me doesn't have sms integration, which is the big deal about iMessage. When you use Message Me, everybody has to have the app. When you use iMessage, it will still send and receive a text regardless of what platform the other person is using. iMessage can send a text to a dumb flip phone with no issues.

    This is why SMS integration is so crucial for Hangouts as it becomes universal regardless of platform.
    Yup, that is true. Similar issue with Whatsapp. In fact, my sisters did not understand why I rebelled against them contacting me through iMessage all the time because it kept showing up as texts on my Android phone.

    Good point.
    09-20-2013 01:48 PM
  6. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    BTW, on an aside, I have never completely bought his idea that IOS is so simple to use. What I find with my various IOS devices, is that there are issues that frustrate the hell out of me and there is almost no way to fix them. For example, I dislike the native launcher. There are sometimes work around, but with Android it is world's easier to quickly add some new feature that corrects whatever it is I am unhappy about.

    And, as much as everybody talks about killer features like iMessage, IOS is missing the one feature I consider must-have for a new phone: Swype! I'll never go back to picking and pecking.
    09-20-2013 01:59 PM
  7. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
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    His point is in relation to folk like me. I hated the way my sister's iMessages would eat up my entire SMS allowance. They looked at it in the same way as they did with BBM back when we were all on crackberries. But, what they were actually doing was texting me!

    But, I see your point and totally agree.
    09-20-2013 02:02 PM
  8. Farish's Avatar
    Yah... The phone number of an iphone. If it's not blue it's sms. Once you text a non iOS device it's green...

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    You said this.

    Imessage is only iPhone to iPhone.
    My chart shows other devices. It was more than the iPhone. If I got a SMS on my iPhone and it was in the other room I still got it on my Mac or iPad. I could respond back and forth from my Mac and not bother to get my iPhone.

    The best part was it even worked when my iPhone was dead.

    Yes the color denotes the difference on your iPhone, but to the other user they couldn't tell the difference. Remember iMessage is the same App on the iPhone, iPad, and Mac, there is no different app.
    09-20-2013 02:11 PM
  9. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    His point is in relation to folk like me. I hated the way my sister's iMessages would eat up my entire SMS allowance. They looked at it in the same way as they did with BBM back when we were all on crackberries. But, what they were actually doing was texting me!

    But, I see your point and totally agree.
    That's the thing tho. If they text you its text for them too. So if they don't have unlimited it would count against them. The only time it is an imessage (using data) is when it goes to another apple device.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-20-2013 02:12 PM
  10. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    His point is in relation to folk like me. I hated the way my sister's iMessages would eat up my entire SMS allowance. They looked at it in the same way as they did with BBM back when we were all on crackberries. But, what they were actually doing was texting me!

    But, I see your point and totally agree.
    That's the thing tho. If they text you its text for them too. So if they don't have unlimited it would count against them.. only time it is an imessage (using data) is when it goes to another apple device.

    Sent from my *PURPLE* Galaxy S4
    09-20-2013 02:12 PM
  11. garublador's Avatar
    I don't think there's any argument with 1 if most of the people you know use iPhones. I'm not as famailir with apps like Find My Friends, but if it's iOS only then that would fall into the same category. It's super useful if everyone you know uses it, but useless if no one you know you uses it.

    2 is actually the exact opposite of how I feel. I'm much happier not using iTunes so the iPhone is the worst phone for music. Much of the argument is stated as a fact and universal when it's really just a personal preference.

    I believe 3 is unfounded. My wife has an iPhone 5 and an iPad and while the animations are a bit different and some apps seem more polished, I see no difference in stability, how intuitive things are (they'll always seem less intuitive on the platform you're least familiar with) or how "fluid" they are.

    The difference in sunlight readability (pretty much all phones are poor in direct sunlight, though) is probably the only thing in 4 that's valid. The size may be bigger, but the hyperbole the author used (palming a basketball) voids any illusion of objectivity he might have. I have no idea where he got the poor screen sensitivity from. The S4 has a more sensitive screen than the iPhone 5 and can be turned up past that to work with gloves on. I sometimes have trouble using my wife's iPhone because I'm used to how sensitive the S4's touch screen is. I find the auto-correct and auto-prediction to be better on the S4 as well.

    The final sentence pretty much blows away any idea that the OP has any objectivity at all. He didn't want to like the S4, so it shouldn't be a surprise when it turns out he didn't like it.
    09-20-2013 02:29 PM
  12. pappy53's Avatar
    The S4 has a more sensitive screen than the iPhone 5 and can be turned up past that to work with gloves on. I sometimes have trouble using my wife's iPhone because I'm used to how sensitive the S4's touch screen is.
    But the iPhone screen is more responsive, and faster.

    Apple’s iPhone 5 touchscreen is 2.5 times faster than Android devices | VentureBeat
    09-20-2013 02:55 PM
  13. Farish's Avatar
    Yes but the lack of Haptic feedback as an option slows down the human reaction process. It is why the iPhone Keyboard makes me cringe after using Android for the last 5 months.

    If the touchscreen is faster then it is like having a Ferrari with a governor in their to limit your speed to 50. Whats the point if it is faster if you can't use it such.
    09-20-2013 03:05 PM
  14. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    I doubt there is anybody who has an S4 and feels that the phone is unresponsive in any way whatsoever. Nonissue.
    09-20-2013 03:42 PM
  15. pappy53's Avatar
    I doubt there is anybody who has an S4 and feels that the phone is unresponsive in any way whatsoever. Nonissue.
    Nonissue, but fact.
    09-20-2013 03:44 PM
  16. Rule9's Avatar
    No, Apple doesn't have any catching up to do. Their features are fine, and they remain the leader in technology.
    Not so much anymore. You should keep in mind that people in this forum are generally speaking as non casual tech enthusiasts. Your POV in many of your posts refers to the general public. From your standpoint you're basically correct but we're not casual folks here.

    Android remains a much more capable and powerful OS ahead of ios7 in capabilities regardless of how each are received and sold by regular people. The OP reflects that kind of user and I would have to say an iPhone is a better fit for him judging by how he stated he uses smartphones, which was very average Joe usage.

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    09-20-2013 03:54 PM
  17. garublador's Avatar
    Not if you have to tap it twice because the first tap didn't take. That's the issue I have is I have to make more forceful (though still a light touch) and deliberate taps and swipes to navigate on the iPhone 5 compared to my S4. Granted that's something you get used to when you use the phone a lot, but saying that the touch sensitivity on the S4 is worse (which is what the OP claimed, I made no mention of responsiveness) is incorrect. Changing the subject doesn't affect that at all.
    09-20-2013 03:56 PM
  18. Kilgore Trout's Avatar
    Nonissue, but fact.
    Not fact, the report by one consulting company.
    09-20-2013 05:30 PM
  19. TrinaMea's Avatar
    Sorry dude, couldn't disagree more. The music is the single most INFERIOR part iphone has compared to Android. But hv fun paying for all your music and having to write down or shazam the songs u like until u can get to a pc or mac to pay, then download them. It ain't for me.

    Sent from my HTC One using AC Forums mobile app
    09-20-2013 06:34 PM
  20. Farish's Avatar
    Sorry dude, couldn't disagree more. The music is the single most INFERIOR part iphone has compared to Android. But hv fun paying for all your music and having to write down or shazam the songs u like until u can get to a pc or mac to pay, then download them. It ain't for me.

    Sent from my HTC One using AC Forums mobile app
    After you Shazam a song it will let you purchase it in iTunes directly from the phone. It gives you a link to the iTunes file. The store pops up after you click to buy and download.

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    09-20-2013 06:42 PM
  21. Edible Walrus's Avatar
    After approximately four months with the GS4 on Verizon, I'll be picking up an iPhone 5s on Friday (fingers crossed that I can even find one). I've dabbled in Android for the very last time and consider it to be the clearly inferior platform. Here's why:

    1. The thing I do most on my phone is text friends and family, with most everything else being a distant second. iMessage on iOS has such a huge advantage over the basic SMS texting available on Android that it isn't even funny, especially when you're sending pictures or video which I frequently do. Add to that the effortless synching of iMessages across the entire Apple ecosystem (from Mac to iPhone to iPad, etc.), and Android simply can't compete. Plus, when you get right down to it, I hardly know anyone who doesn't have an iPhone so everyone uses iMessage.

    2. The thing I do second most on my phone is listen to music. Again, Apple has a huge advantage over Android in that Apple invented the iPod and continues to produce the best music player by a wide margin. Nothing I've tried on Android (and I've tried ALL the 3rd party music apps) comes close. From displaying album artwork to displaying alerts during music playback (especially in the lock screen mode) to synching everything effortlessly with iTunes - the iPhone continues to be the leader for music lovers IMO.

    3. The thing I do third most is use social media apps and various other sports/news apps. Almost to an app, the iOS version is better in that it crashes far less, is more fluid and intuitive, and almost always uploads superior pictures, despite the pictures taken by the GS4 being huge and vibrant. I have no idea why that last gripe is the way it is, but that's simply been my experience.

    4. Yes, the screen size of the iPhone leaves a lot to be desired. There's no avoiding that. However, the large size of the GS4's screen is really hampered by almost zero visibility in sunlight and poor touch responsiveness when compared to the iPhone. Unless you can palm a basketball, you'll probably need to use two hands on the GS4 and other giant Android phones. However, if you don't touch what you want exactly spot-on (with the phone braced with one hand and your free hand doing the selecting), the screen simply isn't as responsive and accurate to the touch as the iPhone. Don't even get me started on the poor screen sensitivity's effect on text entry and lousy auto-correct and auto-prediction...

    5. Lastly, there is no equivalent of the Find My Friends app on Android. When you have family, friends, children, and others all scattered around, it is an absolutely invaluable tool for when you need to keep tabs on someone, like during car/air/train travel, at sporting events/concerts and other large gatherings of people, or just on the commute home. Again, Android can't compete. Although the Google Latitude app existed briefly, if you enabled location reporting so that the app functioned like FMF, the phone's battery would be dead before you set it down.

    There are definitely things about the Android that are great and that I will miss. Full-featured Google Search (and accompanying widget) are great, as are Google Maps, the GMail App, snappy camera, and fully customizable user interface via 3rd party launchers. However, for what I use a phone for most, Android is still playing catch-up and probably always will be.

    The analogy I'd use here is this - iOS/Apple : Android/Samsung/HTC :: Ferrari : Hennessey Motorsports. Yes, the super-tuned Hennessey sports car (take your pick of which one) can match the performance of and typically exceed that of a Ferrari on the racetrack. However, the Ferrari can't be touched in terms of overall taste, fit, finish, and class.
    1) Another poster said Hangouts does this too
    2) Stock music app does the job on the S4 although the handling of notifications could be better and the controls on the lock screen. As for syncing, you could just drag and drop or copy and paste
    3) Valid. Although, of the ones I use they are more or less the same
    4) Yes, one handed operation can be difficult with the S4, but you can't argue with the screen's quality. 4.7" or 4.5" probably would have been perfect. I find screen responsiveness level with the iPod touch (yes I know it's not the newest of Apple hardware). Occasionally it will drop an instruction, just like my iPod does
    5) O_o
    5
    09-20-2013 06:42 PM
  22. tewest86's Avatar
    I just got done playing with the 5S. Those of you comparing the iPhones finger print scanner to the one in the Atrix have noooo idea what you're talking about. It's so quick and seamless. It's feels so natures. It's like comparing the Atari to a PS4. Yes, both are games systems but that's where the similarities end.


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    09-20-2013 07:21 PM
  23. gdmin's Avatar
    I just got done playing with the 5S. Those of you comparing the iPhones finger print scanner to the one in the Atrix have noooo idea what you're talking about. It's so quick and seamless. It's feels so natures. It's like comparing the Atari to a PS4. Yes, both are games systems but that's where the similarities end.


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    I see no post refering to Atrix finger print in here.. except yours.. no?

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    09-20-2013 08:06 PM
  24. tewest86's Avatar
    I see no post refering to Atrix finger print in here.. except yours.. no?

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    It's there. One guy said that the Atrix had a finger print scanner 2 yrs ago.


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    09-20-2013 08:10 PM
  25. gdmin's Avatar
    It's there. One guy said that the Atrix had a finger print scanner 2 yrs ago.


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    Ok, didn't see the post, thanks for your info on finger print. But I think I will never buy any smartphone with finger print features even from my favorite brand.

    But I'm glad you enjoy yours.

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    09-20-2013 08:27 PM
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