
- Yes, it is odd.
I can scarcely tell if the WiFi is on or off.
In fact, when I toggle it OFF, Battery Doctor says that has "saved 23 minutes" use time. Since I get something like two days on a charge anyway, that 23 minutes is just about meaningless.
Tonight, I looked and there is 48% left.... normally that would be all. Just put it to bed with me and be done with it.
but, tomorrow the wife is having surgery and I foresee a lot of data being used in places that don't have a real good signal. So, popped it onto the Qi pad and it will be at 100% when we leave the house tmw morning.
Even if I watch YouTube videos all day, it ought to last until late in the evening w/o need of more juice.06-18-2014 10:22 PMLike 0 - Yes, it is odd.
I can scarcely tell if the WiFi is on or off.
In fact, when I toggle it OFF, Battery Doctor says that has "saved 23 minutes" use time. Since I get something like two days on a charge anyway, that 23 minutes is just about meaningless.
Tonight, I looked and there is 48% left.... normally that would be all. Just put it to bed with me and be done with it.
but, tomorrow the wife is having surgery and I foresee a lot of data being used in places that don't have a real good signal. So, popped it onto the Qi pad and it will be at 100% when we leave the house tmw morning.
Even if I watch YouTube videos all day, it ought to last until late in the evening w/o need of more juice.
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Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 12:08 AMLike 0 - Have you disabled/uninstalled all bloatware and crap you don't use? Anything from Amazon, Verizon or Samsung fit that category and must be immediately killed. Then install Green Power (free download from Play Store). This will keep the phone from searching for signal when the screen is off. It has dramatically improved my battery life. I can get through at least 18 hours with 2.5 - 3 hours of screen on time. You will find that the phone searching for 3g/4g signal is the biggest battery killer in the world. Bluetooth is also a big battery hog.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my SM-G900V using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 05:59 AMLike 0 - This is so odd. There has to be a way to fix this. I notice my battery deplete relatively fast when I'm connected to WiFi. My iPhone and Nexus 5 didn't die this quickly when connected to WiFi. I just recently installed a booster in my home, due to lack of any reception at all. My battery was dying quickly, I thought for obvious reasons of no signal. This issue did not go away once I had installed and connected to the booster. So I decided to give it a shot and see what a night would be like at home disconnected from wifi. The battery life was substantially higher than I expected. There should be some setting on my S5 or router in order to change an address or something. I am starting to feel like this will be one of those "never going to solve the issue" situations. I hope someone gets a hold of this thread and has some sort of suggestion.....
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I moved to a rural area w/o Verizon coverage. The other folks did not provide good coverage either and the phone was always roaming looking for a better signal. I purchased a Network Extender "mini cell site" from Verizon that plugs into the home wideband internet router. Wallah! I now have 5 bars on a carrier name of "Network Extender". works great.
My router is also plugged into a Buffalo WiFi router so I have a huge circle around my home with great WiFi.... I have the guest account turned OFF, and the primary account locked tight. No freebies for my neighbors to slurp up my bandwidth.
Now, your problem. Give us some screenshots of BATTERY, so we can see what is happening there.
I am assuming that you do have Wideband cable or DSL to your home for internet?
That is what you want your WiFi to be working from.
Also, how about logging into your WiFi router and changing the name of your WiFi account. That will force the S5 to ignore the old signal and log into the new signal. While you are at it, do NOT leave the WiFi channel on '11'. Turn on Channel 1 thru 6. I chose '6' because it is weird and no one will be looking for it there. Channels 1, 2, 3 are the strongest your router will be able to put out because the frequencies are lower and have better range. Experiment around a bit.
Report back....
Download these and see what you learn:
- WiFi Overview 360 Pro
- WiFi Manager
- Interference Analyzer
- WiFi Analyzer
- WiFi Scanner
Each of those apps has a nitch in the tools arena. I look at each of them to get an overall picture of what is happening around me.
WiFi Overview 360 Pro has a tab labeled: Ch: Check
it will show you what channels are free.
If you have a neighbor(s) with WiFi signals, your S5 is going to have a rough go of it trying to stay logged into your router. That is going to eat up a lot of battery, especially if some of those signals are weak and your WiFi is really ramping up the transmit power to reach them.
Using the above tools will let you learn who/what is in the air.... then you make damn sure that your force your WiFi onto an unused channel and lock it tight with a security password.
Do NOT leave an open channel available for the neighbors, or your phone to look at. You only want '1' WiFi signal period.....
Let us know what you discover.RionDunn likes this.06-19-2014 10:21 AMLike 1 - by "booster" I think you are saying/meaning "network extender" ? That is for the cellphone DATA connection to your carrier/ATT/Verizon/Sprint?
I moved to a rural area w/o Verizon coverage. The other folks did not provide good coverage either and the phone was always roaming looking for a better signal. I purchased a Network Extender "mini cell site" from Verizon that plugs into the home wideband internet router. Wallah! I now have 5 bars on a carrier name of "Network Extender". works great.
My router is also plugged into a Buffalo WiFi router so I have a huge circle around my home with great WiFi.... I have the guest account turned OFF, and the primary account locked tight. No freebies for my neighbors to slurp up my bandwidth.
Now, your problem. Give us some screenshots of BATTERY, so we can see what is happening there.
I am assuming that you do have Wideband cable or DSL to your home for internet?
That is what you want your WiFi to be working from.
Also, how about logging into your WiFi router and changing the name of your WiFi account. That will force the S5 to ignore the old signal and log into the new signal. While you are at it, do NOT leave the WiFi channel on '11'. Turn on Channel 1 thru 6. I chose '6' because it is weird and no one will be looking for it there. Channels 1, 2, 3 are the strongest your router will be able to put out because the frequencies are lower and have better range. Experiment around a bit.
Report back....
Download these and see what you learn:
- WiFi Overview 360 Pro
- WiFi Manager
- Interference Analyzer
- WiFi Analyzer
- WiFi Scanner
Each of those apps has a nitch in the tools arena. I look at each of them to get an overall picture of what is happening around me.
WiFi Overview 360 Pro has a tab labeled: Ch: Check
it will show you what channels are free.
If you have a neighbor(s) with WiFi signals, your S5 is going to have a rough go of it trying to stay logged into your router. That is going to eat up a lot of battery, especially if some of those signals are weak and your WiFi is really ramping up the transmit power to reach them.
Using the above tools will let you learn who/what is in the air.... then you make damn sure that your force your WiFi onto an unused channel and lock it tight with a security password.
Do NOT leave an open channel available for the neighbors, or your phone to look at. You only want '1' WiFi signal period.....
Let us know what you discover.
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 06:18 PMLike 0 - OK so this is my setup. I am in Canada and my current carrier is Telus. I have a booster antenna on the roof of my home which runs down to a booster unit, looks like a router that floods the basement with signal. Works great. I do not have any neighbours with wifi that will reach my area. Far out of range from any other house. I'm not to sure what channel my router is running on but I will log into it and see what's going on. I will also download the suggested apps. I already have wifi analyzer which will only show me the strength and channel I'm running on. I'll look into these and get back to you. Thanks for going out of your way for this. Greatly appreciated. Please see previous pages within this thread to see all the screen shots I posted. You'll see the wifi set at 18 hours of usage which doesn't make any sense. I had it off all day during this battery cycle, and was connected to it for only 5 hours at the most when I got home that day. What do you think?
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Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 06:27 PMLike 0 - 6/19/2014 8:35 PM
Okay, what I think I understand is that your only internet access is via the roof top antenna. May I assume that this is just a duplex radio signal that only provides you with internet access? We have a local provider here in my rural area that does the same thing.
Just to clarify, your S5 does not access your carrier through that roof top antenna and booster setup?
I am rereading your posts which I placed into MS Word for editing. (much easier to do things like this)
You state that you get a good solid signal throughout the basement. You don't specify if that signal is a WiFi signal, or is a Telus cell site signal for the phone's use to dial up and talk to someone. If the latter is the case, I foresee problems.
Until I get clarification on that, I am going to wait to go any further. I have 40 years radio/microwave/telecommunications/computer experience…. But my training wants good solid info before trying to diagnose problems.06-19-2014 08:43 PMLike 0 - This is also confusing, it says my wifi had been on for 18 hours. This is completely inaccurate. Maybe 5 at the most...
Just for grins and the sake of isolating things, install Battery Doctor and make the Switch Widget available so you can get to it handily. It is on my Main Home Screen.
* Battery Doctor (Battery Saver) - Android Apps on Google Play
make sure that you go thru all the menus and change the default Screen Off Timer. It is 30 seconds if you don't. I use 10 minutes becuz I want the screen to stay on so I can read the newspaper (via the phone).
When I'm not using my phone, I open BD's switcher window and turn off:
data, wifi, sync, bluetooth. I leave GPS on high accuracy as I discovered that is not a big consumer of battery. Easier to just leave it on. where you are, maybe a lesser mode would be okay?
Turning that stuff off will greatly extend your phone's battery.
The phone will still make/receive calls and send/receive SMS messages.
I may assume that you have turned OFF all bloatware?06-19-2014 09:05 PMLike 0 - 6/19/2014 8:35 PM
Okay, what I think I understand is that your only internet access is via the roof top antenna. May I assume that this is just a duplex radio signal that only provides you with internet access? We have a local provider here in my rural area that does the same thing.
Just to clarify, your S5 does not access your carrier through that roof top antenna and booster setup?
I am rereading your posts which I placed into MS Word for editing. (much easier to do things like this)
You state that you get a good solid signal throughout the basement. You don't specify if that signal is a WiFi signal, or is a Telus cell site signal for the phone's use to dial up and talk to someone. If the latter is the case, I foresee problems.
Until I get clarification on that, I am going to wait to go any further. I have 40 years radio/microwave/telecommunications/computer experience…. But my training wants good solid info before trying to diagnose problems.
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 10:47 PMLike 0 - Well, the WiFi receiver has been scanning that length of time. That is normal though IF you leave the Wifi activated. I don't, I turn it OFF when I don't need it.
Just for grins and the sake of isolating things, install Battery Doctor and make the Switch Widget available so you can get to it handily. It is on my Main Home Screen.
* Battery Doctor (Battery Saver) - Android Apps on Google Play
make sure that you go thru all the menus and change the default Screen Off Timer. It is 30 seconds if you don't. I use 10 minutes becuz I want the screen to stay on so I can read the newspaper (via the phone).
When I'm not using my phone, I open BD's switcher window and turn off:
data, wifi, sync, bluetooth. I leave GPS on high accuracy as I discovered that is not a big consumer of battery. Easier to just leave it on. where you are, maybe a lesser mode would be okay?
Turning that stuff off will greatly extend your phone's battery.
The phone will still make/receive calls and send/receive SMS messages.
I may assume that you have turned OFF all bloatware?
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 10:53 PMLike 0 - I have turned off all bloatware and have attempted to use battery doctor but found it contributed to my battery drain even more. Really the only thing I would like to figure out is why my phone dies so quickly when I'm connected to my wifi. My battery is amazing when I'm in town at work out and about. The wifi at work does not cause my battery to drain nearly as much if not at all. I know it has something to do with the wifi at my house because I have tested both with cellular data and wireless data, cellular data will not drain, but I can almost watch the battery indicator drop drastically when I'm connected. Do you think it could be the channel my router is in, as mentioned before? I do not know what else it could be.
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Sent from my SM-G900W8 using AC Forums mobile app06-19-2014 10:58 PMLike 0 - It is normal for WiFi radio to scan for other channels even while it is locked onto the channel it is using.
You should have selected just the one channel you want and had it connect to that channel. If you do not ask it to connect, it should only be aware other channels are "out there".
Battery Doctor does not consume a large amount of power.
I am beginning to believe you are more concerned with "percentage of use" versus actual battery power left. I have had BD installed on my phone since launch day, and I guarantee you it is the smallest user of battery percentage on the phone. If you will use BD and turn off DATA, WIFI, SYNC, BLUETOOTH while you are home and not using the phone, it will easily go days w/o using up a lot of battery. I get 5 days under that condition with only very light phone/text message use. The stuff I mentioned is all turned OFF. I did that as a test to see how far out the battery would go w/o using Low Power Mode. My normal use though is 2 days between charges. But I do have a Qi wireless charger in the phone and often just lay it on the charger pad. Especially so when I go to bed.
Here is a screenshot of my phone's WiFi settings. It is locked onto a single WiFi channel in my home. Indeed it is the only channel available in our area as I live on a large acreage.
I watched and counted the seconds and about every 5 seconds it pops up the "Scanning" message. Totally normal and does not consume power. It is just the WiFi receiver listening to what is around in the area.RionDunn likes this.06-20-2014 01:18 AMLike 1 -
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