[UPDATE:] Verizon's new OE1/OG5/OK3 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

[dgcamero]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

what bout other carriers rather then verizon?do they allow downgrade?and btw hows OE1

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I've only had my phone since April, but OE1 is much faster and smoother than the previous version of Lollipop, and the battery life seems to be better as well.

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[ironass]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

what bout other carriers rather then verizon?do they allow downgrade?and btw hows OE1

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No problem with other carriers. As per post #1, "thanks to Verizon's own new and unique bootloader"

I've only had my phone since April, but OE1 is much faster and smoother than the previous version of Lollipop, and the battery life seems to be better as well.

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Both Verizon's OD5 and OE1 firmware releases should be better than their launch version since they are identical apart from the mega locked down bootloader on OE1 that Verizon added.

 

[dgcamero]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

No problem with other carriers. As per post #1, "thanks to Verizon's own new and unique bootloader"



Both Verizon's OD5 and OE1 firmware releases should be better than their launch version since they are identical apart from the mega locked down bootloader on OE1 that Verizon added.

I am pretty sure I never had OD5...so I can't really comment on it, but your logical analysis seems most likely! Perhaps those that may need the unlockable bootloader should find a way to flash OD5 since OE1 seems to be better than whatever version was before OD5...

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[ironass]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

More and more, on this and other forums, it seems to be slowly dawning on Verizon G900V users that if they have updated to the latest Verizon OE1 firmware, that they can no longer downgrade their firmware or root their phones.

Verizon are busy extending this mega locked down bootloader to other models and manufacturers that they offer.

Make no mistake... this is not an Android or Samsung imposed limitation. This is all down to the carrier, Verizon!

 

[HeroicLove]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

I'm thinking of going with AT&T, what are everyone's thoughts?

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[ironass]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

I'm thinking of going with AT&T, what are everyone's thoughts?

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My first thought is that your post is completely Off Topic!

However, as I am in a good mood this morning... see #1.6 of 40 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide which offers a detailed reply to your question.

 

[jacksmith33]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

._.

I was REALLY looking forward to using a custom ROM after I found how bloated my phone was.
Now to find out I am on OE1... :|

 

[ironass]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

._.

I was REALLY looking forward to using a custom ROM after I found how bloated my phone was.
Now to find out I am on OE1... :|

KIM JONG-UN, Supreme Leader of North Korea, is at this very moment, in secret talks with Verizon on how he too can exercise the same totalitarian control over his people that Verizon imposes on their customers!

 

[HeroicLove]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

Yes they really screwed us over didn't they. I will be going back to Sprint ASAP.

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[ironass]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

Yes they really screwed us over didn't they. I will be going back to Sprint ASAP.

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If it makes you feel any better, AT&T have followed the same path as Verizon and are also preventing rooting. So, now, both of the models running their own, "cloneware", as per #1.6 of 40 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide are not allowing rooting on the Galaxy S5 and other models and makes, in future.

This does NOT apply to the other 99.5% of Samsung users worldwide that are not on Verizon or AT&T.

(N.B. Have amended post #1 to reflect the new OG5 release)

 

[can3gxw]

Re: Verizon OE1 update prevents rooting/downgrading

I have found no desire to root my phone, but I don't think any of the Canadian variants are able to be rooted once they've been updated to 5.0.

edit: I stand corrected... there is, apparently, a Chainfire root for the Canadian GS5

 

[Avgvstvs]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

The only real reason to root phones is to get rid of bloatware to makes space for **** you actually use. All other reasons arw fine tuning and customization. The S6 starts off with 32GB of memory. I don't need to root.
Yes, I know this thread is about the S5. Get a S6 already.

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[Toto39]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

Some of us S5 users actually prefer it to the S6. Plus more space is handy on any model and rooting does give one full control over the device you purchased.

 

[Avgvstvs]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

Some of us S5 users actually prefer it to the S6. Plus more space is handy on any model and rooting does give one full control over the device you purchased.

Fair enough.

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[ironass]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

I have found no desire to root my phone, but I don't think any of the Canadian variants are able to be rooted once they've been updated to 5.0.

edit: I stand corrected... there is, apparently, a Chainfire root for the Canadian GS5

There is indeed a chainfire, CF-Auto-Root kenel for the Canadian models, G900W8, and no locked bootloaders, either... not Samsung's policy.

Some of us S5 users actually prefer it to the S6.

Judging from the poor Galaxy S6 sales worldwide, I would say a lot of users prefer the S5.

 

[jacksmith33]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

Please tell me there is a solution to this now? Being restricted without SU access sucks!

 

[ironass]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

Please tell me there is a solution to this now? Being restricted without SU access sucks!

Nope! You're still screwed thanks to Verizon. They, and AT&T, have shoved the rough end of a pineapple up where the sun don't shine to rooters I'm afraid. Rooting is now officially history on those 2 clonewares. They have made their intentions quite clear on a large number of various phones and models. Even if an exploit is found, such as the old downgrading to 4.4.2 and rooting, they will seal it off with a firmware release. Remember, their phones haven't been rootable since Android 4.4.4... over a year ago and no new rooting exploits have been found since 4.4.2.

 

[jacksmith33]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

Good thing they dont take bug fixing seriously and Verizon stopped on 5.0. So many bugs that they dont bother to fix. Time to get searching. Zero days tonight( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Berryl Jones]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

I didn't bother contacting Verizon (I get the feeling they wouldn't care what I think), but Samsung might take complaints seriously. I told them I'd never purchase another Samsung-branded device owing owing to the awful experience I've had with my S5. It wasn't a bluff.

I thought Android was supposed to be about freedom, but jailbreaking an iPhone is trivial whereas I apparently have 0 options with my S5. You know what else an iPhone doesn't do? Suddenly throw an update prompt on your screen when you unlock so that you might accidentally click "yes", after which you can't cancel. Purchasing a Galaxy was a terrible mistake on my part. There are so many cheaper, less-locked down Android phones that would have served me better. And I do blame Samsung for allowing Verizon to **** their customers like this.

 

[ironass]

Re: Verizon's new OE1 & OG5 updates prevent downgrading or rooting

I didn't bother contacting Verizon (I get the feeling they wouldn't care what I think), but Samsung might take complaints seriously. I told them I'd never purchase another Samsung-branded device owing owing to the awful experience I've had with my S5. It wasn't a bluff.

I thought Android was supposed to be about freedom, but jailbreaking an iPhone is trivial whereas I apparently have 0 options with my S5. You know what else an iPhone doesn't do? Suddenly throw an update prompt on your screen when you unlock so that you might accidentally click "yes", after which you can't cancel. Purchasing a Galaxy was a terrible mistake on my part. There are so many cheaper, less-locked down Android phones that would have served me better. And I do blame Samsung for allowing Verizon to **** their customers like this.

Hello and welcome to Android central Berryl Jones!

I am afraid that the automatic, forced updates and unrootable firmware on both the Verizon and AT&T models are nothing to do with Samsung. See #1.6 of 41 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide. All the worldwide models have a choice on updates and are rootable.

The price of doing business with the 2 largest carriers in the U.S.A., for Samsung and other phone manufacturers, was to cede control of their firmware to those carriers. Because of the U.S.A's fragmented carrier network system there will be no change to this until there is another major carrier on the scene that can compete with these 2 and offer, perhaps, unbranded, unbloated and rootable phones with regular updates that the rest of the world benefit from. See, Samsung release new security updates worldwide. Until that time, both AT&T and Verizon will maintain their totalitarian grip on the phone market. However, all this may change now that they are no longer offering subsidies and customers can bring their own handsets to them.

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If you want an unbranded, unbloated, rootable, Galaxy S5 model to bring to the AT&T network, choose the G900M regional model, see #1.4 of 41 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide, which will work on all bands for AT&T. See, Will My Phone Work?