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  1. tcdude's Avatar
    For me no SD card support may be a deal breaker unless they offer 64 gig for the base model price. And I would love to see a quicker camera with less shutter time especially in poor lighting, I also would want to see less bezel as crazy as this sounds too much bezel may be a deal breaker lol

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    02-09-2015 09:49 PM
  2. sqa4life's Avatar
    I've seen so many complaints about TouchWiz. What is TouchWiz? I've been using samsung phones for years and installed Nova Luncher immediately after I received the phone.
    I still love my note 3. Tried note 4, not much improvement from note 3 so I went back to my die hard note 3.
    Will see how the S6 turn out to be.
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    02-09-2015 11:20 PM
  3. TENYKS's Avatar
    I've seen so many complaints about TouchWiz. What is TouchWiz? I've been using samsung phones for years and installed Nova Luncher immediately after I received the phone.
    I still love my note 3. Tried note 4, not much improvement from note 3 so I went back to my die hard note 3.
    Will see how the S6 turn out to be.
    same here... I really don't understand why people complain about TouchWiz.

    I've never used it. Always installed Nova Launcher as soon as I receive new smartphones. (Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Note 3, and now S5) In fact, Nova makes all of my Samsung phones feel the same.
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    02-10-2015 12:39 AM
  4. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    I've seen so many complaints about TouchWiz. What is TouchWiz? I've been using samsung phones for years and installed Nova Luncher immediately after I received the phone.
    I still love my note 3. Tried note 4, not much improvement from note 3 so I went back to my die hard note 3.
    Will see how the S6 turn out to be.
    Same here, I immediately install Nova and its perfect...people act like they are forced to use Touchwiz
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    02-10-2015 12:43 AM
  5. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Amen to the last 3 posts. Nova Prime does away with any TouchWiz issues for me too.

    from the 🔪 Edge📱
    02-10-2015 02:34 AM
  6. P_Devil's Avatar
    But Nova is just a launcher. TouchWiz is still all over the place in the top pull down panel, the messed up Settings area, and a bunch of other locations. Samsung forced their turquoise (and now light turquoise) color and icon scheme all over the place with TouchWiz. Using a different launcher does help a lot but it doesn't get rid of TouchWiz.

    For me, there are two deal breakers:
    1. It needs to have microSD card support. I will never, ever go back to a phone with a fixed storage capacity and no expansion options. We aren't stuck in 2006 anymore and the model of having fixed capacity phones (like what Motorola, Google, and Apple do) is nothing more than a way for them to squeeze more money out of consumers. Want a 64GB phone? Well, you could buy a $25 memory card or spend an extra $200 on the phone itself (twice as much as a 128GB microSD card).

    2. TouchWiz being front and center. There are rumors that TouchWiz is going to be dialed back and even Samsung hinted at that being a possibility. I would buy another Samsung phone if TouchWiz was drastically scaled back. I almost picked up a Note Edge this past weekend but TouchWiz pretty much has to be used with that and the phone was stuttering. A flagship phone with 3GB of RAM shouldn't stutter when swiping from screen to screen. That's why I would never buy an S6 with a curved edge display. Either way, TouchWiz needs to be scaled back.

    I will jump ship to LG (with the Flex 2) or HTC (hopefully with the rumored 5.5" One M9 Max) if Samsung backs out on either of those. I enjoy my S5 but it isn't perfect and Samsung didn't do that well of a job with Android 5.0. Sure, my phone runs faster but the battery life has taken a hit the last few days (I refuse to factory reset it, I shouldn't have to), the TouchWiz launcher is still a resource hog, and Verizon/Samsung still haven't fixed Bluetooth audio issues.
    02-10-2015 07:34 AM
  7. Haalcyon's Avatar
    My Samsung phones perform quite well with Nova as the launcher and the disabling of Google and carrier bloat. Crap like Street View, Hangouts, and Drive affect performance too (One person's manna from heaven is another person's crap). I've had the S3, S4, S5, and all the Notes except the original. They've all worked smoothly with this approach. I've also had the Nexus 5 and 6 and they didn't seem any smoother than their Samsung contemporaries.

    As far as the look of TW? Looks better than stock Android to me.


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    02-10-2015 08:29 AM
  8. Senden's Avatar
    After reading some of the replies here, I went and gave Nova a try and wow, I can't believe it's taken me this long.. on my S4 everything runs so much faster with that as the launcher.
    02-10-2015 09:00 AM
  9. Haalcyon's Avatar
    After reading some of the replies here, I went and gave Nova a try and wow, I can't believe it's taken me this long.. on my S4 everything runs so much faster with that as the launcher.
    You can really do a lot or just a little with Nova. I Iove that you can create a complete configuration with icon packs and arrangements and save that and then completely change things up and easily restore your original if you want. You can have totally different look every hour or every day once you do the initial config. Nova really is sliq.


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    02-10-2015 09:33 AM
  10. pwaikon's Avatar
    One thing and one thing only: nano SIM

    I'm a mobile phone hobbyist and so like to own and use many different phones. ALL my phones that I currently own have Micro SIM and so my upcoming phones has to have Micro SIM. I'm NOT gonna start playing with SIM-card adapters when I feel like I wanna switch phones ya know?

    I had iPhone 4 and I thought about getting a new iPhone but now that the new iPhone 6's have nano sim I'm not gonna get one. Simple as that. So, if the SGS6 has Micro SIM I may buy it (depends on the other specs too). I think my choice is between SGS6 or Note 4 as my next phone
    02-11-2015 04:27 AM
  11. PsychDoc's Avatar
    I've seen so many complaints about TouchWiz. What is TouchWiz? I've been using samsung phones for years and installed Nova Luncher immediately after I received the phone.
    I still love my note 3. Tried note 4, not much improvement from note 3 so I went back to my die hard note 3.
    Will see how the S6 turn out to be.
    You (and many others it seems) are not clear on what Nova is or isn't . It is NOT a replacement for TW, it's just another skin over it. It does not take TW out of the loop, it just refines the end user experience in certain graphics/layout areas. The entire phone's OS is still TW even after you've installed Nova. TW is and will remain the cause of Samsung phone's horrible lagging problems until they (e.g. Samsung) strip it down or completely eliminate it. BTW, I use Nova as well but PLEASE, be under no illussions, it most certainly does not take TW out of the system. In fact, because it's really just another layer on top of it, it probably slows the phone even more.
    02-11-2015 06:36 AM
  12. PsychDoc's Avatar
    After reading some of the replies here, I went and gave Nova a try and wow, I can't believe it's taken me this long.. on my S4 everything runs so much faster with that as the launcher.
    You're deluding yourself. See my post above.
    02-11-2015 06:38 AM
  13. Haalcyon's Avatar
    You (and many others it seems) are not clear on what Nova is or isn't . It is NOT a replacement for TW, it's just another skin over it. It does not take TW out of the loop, it just refines the end user experience in certain graphics/layout areas. The entire phone's OS is still TW even after you've installed Nova. TW is and will remain the cause of Samsung phone's horrible lagging problems until they (e.g. Samsung) strip it down or completely eliminate it. BTW, I use Nova as well but PLEASE, be under no illussions, it most certainly does not take TW out of the system. In fact, because it's really just another layer on top of it, it probably slows the phone even more.
    In my thinking it must be the TouchWiz launcher that causes the TouchWiz performance issues that some speak of. I've replaced that launcher with Nova Prime and I have no performance issues. At all, at least not compared to a Nexus 6 and Nexus 5, IME.

    from the 🔪 Edge📱
    02-11-2015 07:07 AM
  14. P_Devil's Avatar
    It is the TouchWiz launcher that causes performance issues. Even now, with Android 5.0, it stutters when swiping from screen to screen. I had to widgets up and running two: a large Google Play Music widget and a smaller Google Calendar widget. It stutters when going from different home screens, pauses before it pulls up all of my apps, etc. I switched to the Google Now launcher and it is much, much faster. No stutters when switching between home screens (and I have even more active widgets), it instantly pulls up all of my apps, etc. PsychDoc is a little off with their assessment of what a launcher does. Launchers run independently of one another so Nova just isn't a skin applied over the TouchWiz launcher, it is a launcher all in its own. That's why the performance of Samsung devices often drastically improves whenever a new launcher is installed. Things would be much worse if launchers were just skins on top of the TouchWiz launcher.

    As for disabling Google's "bloatware," I can disable some content but not others. I have to use either Messages or Hangouts for texting (those are the only two that push texts to my Moto 360 while allowing me to directly reply in them), Samsung's e-mail app is a bigger resource hog than Gmail so I'm not getting rid of that (and it looks like a mobile version of Lotus Notes from 1999), and everything else Google related isn't taxing my battery.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Samsung makes great hardware. Their flagship devices feature the latest tech (for their time), are solidly built, and can offer great performance. The S5 was truly a beast when it came out and can still keep up with more modern phones (in some areas) like the iPhone 6 Plus. It really is a testament that a phone released almost a year ago can keep up with one released a couple of months back. But their software is atrocious, to say the least. It's the same with my Samsung plasma. It produces stellar picture quality rivaled only by high end sets that cost $3000+ (it only cost me $750), the 3D picture quality is great, gaming on it has been a treat, but the software that the TV runs is buggy, slow, and has recently caused issues like making my TV randomly restart itself or randomly showing a popup saying that Smart Hub was upgraded. Spectacular hardware that holds up almost 3 years after I purchased it but the software is terrible.
    02-11-2015 07:54 AM
  15. Senden's Avatar
    You're deluding yourself. See my post above.
    Well when my applications load up noticeably faster, how is that deluding myself? Almost everything I've tried so far has loaded up faster since moving to Nova Launcher. It's hardly turned it into a new phone but it has certainly improved the performance by a fair bit.
    02-11-2015 08:30 AM
  16. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Why anyone would consciously continue to use the TouchWiz (or any other OEM) launcher when Nova, Apex, Google, Go, etc. offer better alternatives kinda baffles me.

    from the 🔪 Note Edge✒
    02-11-2015 08:42 AM
  17. sqa4life's Avatar
    If one said Nova prime is only a launcher, then he/she hasn't used or don't know how to utilize all the features. Here is one of many features of Nova Launcher.
    02-11-2015 08:52 AM
  18. P_Devil's Avatar
    But Nova Launcher is, in the end, just a launcher. The gestures you posted are for accessing apps and other features. Nova doesn't change the Settings menu, it doesn't get rid of the top pull down menu, and it doesn't get rid of TouchWiz. As nice as Nova is, it is still just a launcher. A very packed launcher but a launcher nonetheless.
    02-11-2015 09:09 AM
  19. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    For me no removable battery and no SD card slot would be deal breakers. If my battery dies I want to just swap it out.

    It's so annoying have to use the bulky mophie case on my iPhone 6+. I love that it adds battery life but I'm not a fan of the bulk.

    To me removable batteries and SD cards are selling points to android. You can't and won't ever get those with iOS and apple. It's sad that Samsung is the last hold out.

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    02-11-2015 09:55 AM
  20. My Android sucks's Avatar
    Not that I'll even think of getting the S6 (very happy with my S5) but if I were to consider it, the top deal breakers would be as many others have said

    1) No removable battery
    2) No expandable memory
    3) No IP rating

    But I doubt these will not be implemented, as these are some of Samsung's key advantages over other smartphones.
    02-11-2015 10:11 AM
  21. Haalcyon's Avatar
    For me no removable battery and no SD card slot would be deal breakers. If my battery dies I want to just swap it out.

    It's so annoying have to use the bulky mophie case on my iPhone 6+. I love that it adds battery life but I'm not a fan of the bulk.

    To me removable batteries and SD cards are selling points to android. You can't and won't ever get those with iOS and apple. It's sad that Samsung is the last hold out.

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    Be fair. The iPhone 6+ does indeed have very epic battery life. At least mine does. I see no need for a battery case for that phone.

    from the 🔪 Note Edge✒
    02-11-2015 10:13 AM
  22. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    Be fair. The iPhone 6+ does indeed have very epic battery life. At least mine does. I see no need for a battery case for that phone.

    from the Note Edge✒

    Not saying it doesn't have good battery life, I realize I am not the typical user. Just saying that removable batteries are one reason why I like Samsung's phones, as they are one of the few Android oems that still offer them.
    02-11-2015 11:56 AM
  23. Coney718's Avatar
    No SD card slot will be a deal breaker for me. One of the reasons I wanted to move from iPhone to Android is for the expandable memory. and they definitely need camera improvements especially in low light conditions.
    02-11-2015 01:14 PM
  24. kansasandroid1's Avatar
    I haven't owned a Samsung phone since the S3, because they have always seemed boring to me. I have played around with my dads S5 and it just lags all over the place. It was ugly and cheap looking. Two things they need to do Revamp their hardware and Software. I'm not asking for them to remove Touch wiz just tone it down. Phones with the specs they have should not lag like that. Then they need to change that design. I still have no idea what they were doing with the S5. The Note 4 is a huge step forward as far as design. Samsung needs to stop trying so hard, and fix the basic things

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    02-11-2015 04:36 PM
  25. sqa4life's Avatar
    You (and many others it seems) are not clear on what Nova is or isn't . It is NOT a replacement for TW, it's just another skin over it. It does not take TW out of the loop, it just refines the end user experience in certain graphics/layout areas. The entire phone's OS is still TW even after you've installed Nova. TW is and will remain the cause of Samsung phone's horrible lagging problems until they (e.g. Samsung) strip it down or completely eliminate it. BTW, I use Nova as well but PLEASE, be under no illussions, it most certainly does not take TW out of the system. In fact, because it's really just another layer on top of it, it probably slows the phone even more.
    Who said Nova took out TW from the system? Anyone?
    If there is a tool available that will make my life easier, I'll use it. Simple as that.
    02-11-2015 11:49 PM
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