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  1. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    ....clip....
    btw, it would be good to check its OS's version, It is known that Lollipop 5.0 may have bad standby problem, it is possible a 5.01/5.02/5.1 update can be pushed right out of the door and improve standby to some degree.
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    I think that is probably the most significant observation.
    Issues with battery life are posted all over the S5 forum in direct relation to 5.0.
    And many posts saying 5.0.1 drastically improved it.
    03-14-2015 05:34 AM
  2. Jdroids's Avatar
    We have just one review that looks like from MWC demo unit with somewhat inconsistent result from others. So I wouldn't jump to conclusion on S6 battery yet.

    I noticed someone commented on the GSMarena review, saying this is incorrect as he is testing it right now and he's getting over 5 hours screen time easily with browsing, videos, camera.
    03-14-2015 08:27 AM
  3. Jdroids's Avatar
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    I think that is probably the most significant observation.
    Issues with battery life are posted all over the S5 forum in direct relation to 5.0.
    And many posts saying 5.0.1 drastically improved it.
    This. My S5 on at&t had phenomenal standby time when I got it first with 4.4.2. But it took slight hit with recent 4.4.4 update. And I saw lots of battery complain with 5.0 update on other carriers. Glad that at&t didn't push it yet and I would rather have them skip over to 5.02 or later version.
    03-14-2015 08:37 AM
  4. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    We have just one review that looks like from MWC demo unit with somewhat inconsistent result from others. So I wouldn't jump to conclusion on S6 battery yet.

    I noticed someone commented on the GSMarena review, saying this is incorrect as he is testing it right now and he's getting over 5 hours screen time easily with browsing, videos, camera.
    We can all hope, but that's still production hardware, so I don't know how much software/firmware tweaks will get us. I doubt we could get a 25% improvement from that though...maybe 10% or so. Unless one of the MWC units was defective.
    03-14-2015 08:47 AM
  5. Jdroids's Avatar
    We can all hope, but that's still production hardware, so I don't know how much software/firmware tweaks will get us. I doubt we could get a 25% improvement from that though...maybe 10% or so. Unless one of the MWC units was defective.
    If it doesn't live up to expectation (10% better than S5) with all those latest efficient hardware components after all, I must say Samsung screwed up somewhere in the software. It lost about 9% capacity from 2800mAh but got many new components (screen, processor, memory, etc) to offset it more than enough. I can hold out more with S5 and look for active version or Note 5 anyway.
    03-14-2015 08:59 AM
  6. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    If it doesn't live up to expectation (10% better than S5) with all those latest efficient hardware components after all, I must say Samsung screwed up somewhere in the software. It lost about 9% capacity from 2800mAh but got many new components (screen, processor, memory, etc) to offset it more than enough. I can hold out more with S5 and look for active version or Note 5 anyway.
    I don't need 10% better than the S5, I'd be happy with equal battery life to the S5, it's about as good as my Z3.
    03-14-2015 09:42 AM
  7. jcp007's Avatar
    We can all hope, but that's still production hardware, so I don't know how much software/firmware tweaks will get us. I doubt we could get a 25% improvement from that though...maybe 10% or so. Unless one of the MWC units was defective.
    If it doesn't live up to expectation (10% better than S5) with all those latest efficient hardware components after all, I must say Samsung screwed up somewhere in the software. It lost about 9% capacity from 2800mAh but got many new components (screen, processor, memory, etc) to offset it more than enough. I can hold out more with S5 and look for active version or Note 5 anyway.
    They key is that we have to wait and see. A 10 percent improvement is an improvement and we shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. All I am saying......give the GS6 a chance. This doesn't mean disaster. I feel certain that Samsung has some pretty smart folks and a lot of work to match the improved hardware and software as well as new features with an adequate battery adding dual wireless charging standards and rapid charging, two features that are not necessarily found in the GS5. The GS5 is history and we should be pumped by the GS6.
    03-14-2015 09:43 AM
  8. BlueGoldAce's Avatar
    I'll take the review with a healthy dose of skepticism.

    I'll wait for andantech, android central, PhoneArena, etc.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-14-2015 10:10 AM
  9. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    I'll take the review with a healthy dose of skepticism.

    I'll wait for andantech, android central, PhoneArena, etc.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Personally I want to see what AndroidPolice have to say as well.
    03-14-2015 10:19 AM
  10. clevin's Avatar
    I'll take the review with a healthy dose of skepticism.

    I'll wait for andantech, android central, PhoneArena, etc.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Android central never conduct battery test, they only do "battery feels", phonearena claimed S5 battery is twice as good as s4, and 20% better than Note 3 and iPhone 6+. anandtech claimed HTC ONE X ( I had one) can surfing web for 10 hrs (complete bs obviously).
    03-14-2015 10:29 AM
  11. BlueGoldAce's Avatar
    Android central never conduct battery test, they only do "battery feels", phonearena claimed S5 battery is twice as good as s4, and 20% better than Note 3 and iPhone 6+. anandtech claimed HTC ONE X ( I had one) can surfing web for 10 hrs (complete bs obviously).
    None the less.

    This review is real early. If we see other reviews pop up this weekend... I'll consider them all... Like always.

    Just curious why they got their review up so quickly.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-14-2015 10:31 AM
  12. clevin's Avatar
    None the less.

    This review is real early. If we see other reviews pop up this weekend... I'll consider them all... Like always.

    Just curious why they got their review up so quickly.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    maybe their automated publishing system mistakenly got triggered early... lol, surprising indeed.
    03-14-2015 10:34 AM
  13. jcp007's Avatar
    maybe their automated publishing system mistakenly got triggered early... lol, surprising indeed.
    The two reviews used different GS6 models with each one a little different in terms of being closer to market ready that both were only up to MWC launch status as the differences in benchmark rankings would seem to suggest. While we can't glen anything truly helpful,to,allow us to evaluate the device for our selves, they offer a microcosm or the current debate over the GS6 design. GSMArena seemed to be in the Samsung purist camp that can't let go of the battery issue instead of an objective preliminary evaluation of the device. On the plus side, it was thorough especially for a preliminary first look. überizmo was concise and more objective focusing on taking a more,patient approach to make a judgment on the success of the design choices. I agree that we need to wait a little longer for AC, AA, mobile tech review, PhoneArena, and phonedog as well as other more widely known review sites publish.
    03-14-2015 10:50 AM
  14. edgefever's Avatar
    They wanted to be like iPhone ,looks like they nailed it.
    03-14-2015 10:56 AM
  15. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    The two reviews used different GS6 models with each one a little different in terms of being closer to market ready that both were only up to MWC launch status as the differences in benchmark rankings would seem to suggest. While we can't glen anything truly helpful,to,allow us to evaluate the device for our selves, they offer a microcosm or the current debate over the GS6 design. GSMArena seemed to be in the Samsung purist camp that can't let go of the battery issue instead of an objective preliminary evaluation of the device. On the plus side, it was thorough especially for a preliminary first look. überizmo was concise and more objective focusing on taking a more,patient approach to make a judgment on the success of the design choices. I agree that we need to wait a little longer for AC, AA, mobile tech review, PhoneArena, and phonedog as well as other more widely known review sites publish.
    They're not the only ones having trouble with objectivity here.
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    03-14-2015 11:02 AM
  16. jcp007's Avatar
    They wanted to be like iPhone ,looks like they nailed it.
    The only true similarities exist at the bottom of the device but they pretty much end there. GS6 has the following.

    Better display with greater pixel density and energy efficiency.
    On multi-core, faster more energy efficient chipset.
    Better LTE radio standard.
    Dual wireless charging standards in the same device requiring additional modification.
    Dual mobile payment standards.
    Better camera and video with 4k video .
    IR blaster to use your phone as a remote control.
    True functional widgets.
    True multi-tasking.
    All this powered by a smaller battery and thinner.

    The I6s will want to be the GS6. Best of luck to them nailing that goal.
    03-14-2015 11:12 AM
  17. jcp007's Avatar
    They're not the only ones having trouble with objectivity here.
    I will admit that my affinity for Samsung is pretty strong but I was merely trying express my opinion that we need to take both preliminary reviews with a grain of salt and take a wait and see approach. The GSMArena reviewer interjected the battery opinion no les,than three times,devoting a great deal,of print on an issue that is quite hot at the moment. These preliminary reviews are just that preliminary. Devices in both reviews were clearly advanced prototypes not ready for market. If you also take in context,my previous,posts about embracing change, I have been more,objective than you think as also been advocating patience and tolerance.
    03-14-2015 11:20 AM
  18. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    I will admit that my affinity for Samsung is pretty strong but I was merely trying express my opinion that we need to take both preliminary reviews with a grain of salt and take a wait and see approach. The GSMArena reviewer interjected the battery opinion no les,than three times,devoting a great deal,of print on an issue that is quite hot at the moment. These preliminary reviews are just that preliminary. Devices in both reviews were clearly advanced prototypes not ready for market. If you also take in context,my previous,posts about embracing change, I have been more,objective than you think as also been advocating patience and tolerance.
    The point is that your affinity for Samsung here is coloring your opinion of their evaluations. Now you're back to saying that the units at MWC were prototypes. I'm just wondering what you'll say when the reviews of off-the-shelf units come in, if they have similar issues.

    I will grant that I got caught up into launch excitement as well, though I have always been cautious about the battery due to the announced, relatively small size, I didn't think it would be quite so long lasting as the GS5 battery. Now with these initial evaluations my skepticism is growing on that front. I may end up buying the device anyway, and just keeping a QuickCharge unit in my laptop bag as well as my car...probably at my desk at work too, just because all the other features on the device are so game-changing in comparison, and my Z3 rarely goes below 40% anyway.

    They probably shrunk the battery to stick to a particular price point but personally I'd pay an extra $50 for a larger battery. I won't go the Mophie route because I'd be looking to use a Lifeproof case instead. But I may end up relying heavily on QuickCharging, and I'm wondering what that will do to battery longevity long-term.
    03-14-2015 11:40 AM
  19. jcp007's Avatar
    The point is that your affinity for Samsung here is coloring your opinion of their evaluations. Now you're back to saying that the units at MWC were prototypes. I'm just wondering what you'll say when the reviews of off-the-shelf units come in, if they have similar issues.

    I will grant that I got caught up into launch excitement as well, though I have always been cautious about the battery due to the announced, relatively small size, I didn't think it would be quite so long lasting as the GS5 battery. Now with these initial evaluations my skepticism is growing on that front. I may end up buying the device anyway, and just keeping a QuickCharge unit in my laptop bag as well as my car...probably at my desk at work too, just because all the other features on the device are so game-changing in comparison, and my Z3 rarely goes below 40% anyway.

    They probably shrunk the battery to stick to a particular price point but personally I'd pay an extra $50 for a larger battery. I won't go the Mophie route because I'd be looking to use a Lifeproof case instead. But I may end up relying heavily on QuickCharging, and I'm wondering what that will do to battery longevity long-term.
    Aren't all device that are not commercially available prototypes by definition. Going to take a step,further back to wait and see., if the issues persist, fine as I will adapt and change either buying the device or passing on it totally. Right one, there is very little that would do so. I will also rely on testing them in person before making my decision. In any event, I am not making any value judgment on anyone's opinion and if I have not made that clear before, I hope it is clear now. Hysteria and emotion overriding good judgment and patience always leads to a bad result.
    03-14-2015 11:53 AM
  20. clevin's Avatar
    They probably shrunk the battery to stick to a particular price point but personally I'd pay an extra $50 for a larger battery. I won't go the Mophie route because I'd be looking to use a Lifeproof case instead. But I may end up relying heavily on QuickCharging, and I'm wondering what that will do to battery longevity long-term.
    Wireless charging tends to have lower efficiency and takes longer time to charge. The wasted energy will be emitted as heat, obviously not that good for battery longevity. Users will need to balance wired and wireless charging to keep both battery and charging usb port safer (I noticed some reports saying the charging port getting loose or unstable).

    Its too late now for sammy to do-over the hardware. Right now, they should work really really really hard to get software updated so standby performance, if not overall battery consumption, can be significantly improved, preferably, as 0-day update.
    03-14-2015 11:56 AM
  21. jcp007's Avatar
    The point is that your affinity for Samsung here is coloring your opinion of their evaluations. Now you're back to saying that the units at MWC were prototypes. I'm just wondering what you'll say when the reviews of off-the-shelf units come in, if they have similar issues.

    I will grant that I got caught up into launch excitement as well, though I have always been cautious about the battery due to the announced, relatively small size, I didn't think it would be quite so long lasting as the GS5 battery. Now with these initial evaluations my skepticism is growing on that front. I may end up buying the device anyway, and just keeping a QuickCharge unit in my laptop bag as well as my car...probably at my desk at work too, just because all the other features on the device are so game-changing in comparison, and my Z3 rarely goes below 40% anyway.

    They probably shrunk the battery to stick to a particular price point but personally I'd pay an extra $50 for a larger battery. I won't go the Mophie route because I'd be looking to use a Lifeproof case instead. But I may end up relying heavily on QuickCharging, and I'm wondering what that will do to battery longevity long-term.
    I took a step back to reflect on your post and decided to add some clarity on my views in a sincere way. I came from a long time user of RIM devices having owned half a dozen models since 2006. I thought I could never give up the physical keyboard and proprietary communications platform. Then, seeing the GS3 announcement and having passed on the iPhone, I took a leap of faith and got the GS3 with no physical keyboard and a totally different OS. After getting the GS4, I took a look at the GS5 after it was announced and decided to pass on it as well as two iterations of the iPhone which brings us to where we are now with the GS6.

    As far as the reviews are concerned, both were thorough and fair for the most part, with the GSMArena being more detailed and the überizmo was more concise. The primary difference in my opinion having read both reviews were twofold. The battery issue was interjected as commentary three times in the midst of an otherwise thoughtful and objective yet highly preliminary review of a device not ready for market but ready enough to demo and genre rate buzz. I thought the überizmo article tried harder to point out the improved features and new ones in the context of its predecessor the GS5 and it's competition. I also thought it took the approach that controversial design choices while impressive needed some time to tell if they were successful. I hope this clears things up a bit.
    03-14-2015 12:31 PM
  22. droidguy1964's Avatar
    I know....if true this is really bad news.
    Noticeably worse battery life than the S5!
    Eek!
    03-14-2015 03:50 PM
  23. jcp007's Avatar
    I know....if true this is really bad news.
    I think it's safe to say that since no one has tested a unit ready for sale that any evaluations of battery life are best highly preliminary at best an probably subject to revision.
    03-14-2015 04:45 PM
  24. droidguy1964's Avatar
    I think it's safe to say that since no one has tested a unit ready for sale that any evaluations of battery life are best highly preliminary at best an probably subject to revision.

    Thanks once again for your comment....
    03-14-2015 05:52 PM
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    I'm Jealous!
    03-14-2015 08:34 PM
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