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  1. stevelam's Avatar
    Been an iphone user since the 3g. I've gone back and forth (had the HTC Hero and Samsung S3) so I've been generally familiar at least with old android.

    The S6 is probably the first android phone in a while to tempt me away from the iphone.

    My main issue is touchwiz. Obviously I haven't tried out the new apparently slimmed down touchwiz, but after a nightmare with the S3 I've lost all confidence in Samsung handling things on the software side. I'd love to flash cyanogenmod on it when its possible to do so, but I assume I would lose all hardware optimizations? (for example the camera probably wont open in a split second under cyanogenmod vs touchwiz, not to mention all the improved post-processing done to photos which are mostly in software).

    Does anyone know of any other downsides to switching to another custom rom? I haven't done it in a long time. I'd lose all the Samsung apps but anything else?
    03-16-2015 09:26 AM
  2. Alex_NJ's Avatar
    I think if Samsung actually advertise the fact they have cut down touchwiz, they will make pretty damn sure that it really is good software.

    Hope you find the answer though
    03-16-2015 09:29 AM
  3. clevin's Avatar
    Buy s6 and flash cyanxxxxxx? Nope, won't suggest that.
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    03-16-2015 09:36 AM
  4. corye's Avatar
    Was reading some concerns on XDA that AOSP-based ROMs might be harder to develop on the S6 due to the Exynos processor. So don't get your hopes up?

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk
    03-16-2015 09:38 AM
  5. zenbiad's Avatar
    I don't like the display of S6 when reading books.
    P.S. Is there any easy way to transfer content from iPhone to S6, such as text messages and music?
    03-16-2015 10:56 AM
  6. clevin's Avatar
    I don't like the display of S6 when reading books.
    P.S. Is there any easy way to transfer content from iPhone to S6, such as text messages and music?
    you may want to ask in iPhone forum. Absence of a file manager, and with fragmented way in which iTMS stores music, its unnecessarily difficult. lol
    03-16-2015 11:05 AM
  7. sdmf's Avatar
    Not sure why people have a problem with touchwiz. I'm picky as hell and mine runs awesome on my note 3. You could also just root and freeze the Samsung apps you don't need or use.

    For txt MSG, see if there is an sms backup app. For your tunes., save your tunes to your desktop then USB them over to the new phone. Android.... So much easier to do stuff than apple.
    03-16-2015 11:37 AM
  8. STEVESKI07's Avatar
    I've been on an S3 for 2 years now. What's so terrible about Touch Wiz? Is it the best looking? No, but you can add a launcher to customize that to some extent. If it's smooth and stutter free on the S6, what is wrong with it? I must be missing something because people seem to act like Touch Wiz is sleeping with their girlfriend or something.
    03-16-2015 11:39 AM
  9. Inders99's Avatar
    The TW drama is sort of tiring. On my GS3 it's slow, but it's an "old" phone at this point. There's some really good points of TW IMO, some stuff I've taken for granted for sure.

    If you look at it and still don't like it then don't buy it. However, personally I feel the Android UI is FAR better than iOS, there really isn't anything I like about the iPhone, and that's coming from someone who has the following Apple products:
    MacBook Pro
    iPad
    iMac
    Apple TV
    Airport Express
    Airport Extreme

    So from an apparent Apple honk, you'd think I'd be all over the iPhone.
    Smply_Rckless likes this.
    03-16-2015 11:47 AM
  10. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    You can always change launchers.
    You can download NOVA Launcher from the Play Store, pretty much replaces TW except for the settings. You can customize it more and looks like you don't even have Touchwiz.

    There are other launchers as well such as Apex Launcher, but Nova is the best imo
    03-16-2015 11:55 AM
  11. STEVESKI07's Avatar
    You can always change launchers.
    You can download NOVA Launcher from the Play Store, pretty much replaces TW except for the settings. You can customize it more and looks like you don't even have Touchwiz.

    There are other launchers as well such as Apex Launcher, but Nova is the best imo
    Just as a note for those unfamiliar as these launchers go on TOP of TouchWiz and don't replace TouchWiz. IMO, that's a good thing because you don't lose any of the Samsung features that they've added and it's more of just a visual thing. But if you have a personal vendetta against TouchWiz and it is sleeping with your girlfriend, putting a paper bag over it's head doesn't change anything.
    smooth4lyfe and Inders99 like this.
    03-16-2015 12:07 PM
  12. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Just as a note for those unfamiliar as these launchers go on TOP of TouchWiz and don't replace TouchWiz. IMO, that's a good thing because you don't lose any of the Samsung features that they've added and it's more of just a visual thing. But if you have a personal vendetta against TouchWiz and it is sleeping with your girlfriend, putting a paper bag over it's head doesn't change anything.
    True it doesn't replace it, but it helps a lot with not looking like Touchwiz. You can change the icons, animations, and other features. Its a great alternative for those who do not want to root. Good explanation though
    03-16-2015 12:13 PM
  13. Cobravision's Avatar
    People hate Touchwiz for three reasons:

    1) It's ugly
    2) It lags
    3) It's bloated

    Samsung has addressed issues 2 & 3. There's no more lag and the footprint has been trimmed down. Is it still ugly? Yes, I think so. But I can side-step most of that by moving to Nova Launcher. Nova also gives me a ton more customization options. But there's still a bunch of other areas where TW presents itself, notably the shade, the camera, contacts, and dialer. However, most of those have been redesigned, although that has never been as issue for me because I actually like the Samsung customizations to those programs. In either case, most of these apps can be replaced.

    So to sum up, get Nova Launcher or use the Google Experience launcher and you should be good.
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    03-16-2015 12:54 PM
  14. chezm's Avatar
    The TW drama is sort of tiring. On my GS3 it's slow, but it's an "old" phone at this point. There's some really good points of TW IMO, some stuff I've taken for granted for sure.
    Tiring was using the S3 and touchwiz...it was horrible! It left a very bad taste in my mouth about Android and only after thoroughly testing Nexus 5 running stock Android was i convinced touchwiz was the problem, not android. That was over 2 years of hating on Android because of the false representation given by the Galaxy model I had. THANKFULLY Samsung has toned down TW for the S6, this is the first time in so many years im considering a Samsung device again...if TW wasnt fixed then i wouldnt even consider looking at the S6...ya its that bad.
    03-16-2015 12:56 PM
  15. stevelam's Avatar
    Not sure why people have a problem with touchwiz. I'm picky as hell and mine runs awesome on my note 3. You could also just root and freeze the Samsung apps you don't need or use.

    For txt MSG, see if there is an sms backup app. For your tunes., save your tunes to your desktop then USB them over to the new phone. Android.... So much easier to do stuff than apple.
    I've been on an S3 for 2 years now. What's so terrible about Touch Wiz? Is it the best looking? No, but you can add a launcher to customize that to some extent. If it's smooth and stutter free on the S6, what is wrong with it? I must be missing something because people seem to act like Touch Wiz is sleeping with their girlfriend or something.
    well since samsung themselves decided to dial back touchwiz, i'd say more than a few people have had issues with it.

    myself i found it slow and laggy to use, but that was when i had an s3 (in comparison to my iphone 5 at the time). at that time though, the standard for speed isn't like where it is today obviously, and i assume android in general is a lot faster now. i just dont want to lose speed if i switch to another rom which is my main issue.

    i'm just wondering if this is an issue in general when switching custom roms for another that may not be as optimized for the specific phone you're installing it on.
    03-16-2015 01:01 PM
  16. jcp007's Avatar
    Give TouchWiz a try. Its footprint has supposedly been reduced by 40% and with improved resources, lag should minimal. I have had the GS3 and GS4 and the lag which has been minimal has never bothered me enough to use a launcher. Touchwiz is more than a launcher. If it still bothers you, load a new launcher or pass on the GS6.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
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    03-16-2015 01:13 PM
  17. Jdroids's Avatar
    You can put other launcher like Nova on it. It would replace only launcher part of Touchwiz but other parts like setting, notification bar, phone, camera UI will remain. Nova will tremendously increase the swiping speed on home screen. I prefer a bit smooth home swiping on TW (this is not lag) rather than super fast response like Nova. But some folks like that instant feel of Nova.
    03-16-2015 01:31 PM
  18. erasat's Avatar
    I don't like the display of S6 when reading books.
    P.S. Is there any easy way to transfer content from iPhone to S6, such as text messages and music?
    This app has been around for a couple of years already, first time I heard of it was when the Galaxy S4 launched.

    Smart Switch
    03-16-2015 01:57 PM
  19. Cobravision's Avatar
    The beauty of Nova is the customizability. I have a 6 X 5 grid of icons, 7 X 5 if you include the dock. But I don't even use the top two rows since it's not as convenient to reach. So the very top row is blank and the row below that is my PocketCasts widget. I basically live on the bottom 25 icons because I can assign a swipe up to each folder. So my folder with all my social media apps opens Facebook when I swipe up (meaning I don't actually have to open the folder for that app). Swipe up the phone, and it's contacts. Swipe up Keep, and it launches my flashlight. I basically double up on icons that way. Then, in the dock, I have direct dial shortcuts for my contacts. If I swipe up the personal contacts folder, it calls my wife. If I open the folder and tap my friend's icon, it call him. But if I swipe up, it texts him, because you can swipe up the icons inside of folders as well. I am no more than two taps/swipes away from getting in touch with anyone in my contact folders. Google Voice search can be activated with the "OK Google" phrase or swipe down on any homescreen. I only leave my main screen for my calendar and music widgets, which is not all that often. Whenever someone complains about problems with swiping screens I tune it out because none of that applies to me. I never really swipe and that's because of Nova Launcher.
    berdinkerdickle likes this.
    03-16-2015 02:15 PM
  20. slopokdave's Avatar
    Has already been said, but easiest solution is to just put another launcher on your phone. You don't need to root. No unlock. Easy easy EASY. TouchWhiz is then gone.

    You will still have Samsung skinned notification menu and settings, but that's hardly bad.
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    03-16-2015 04:07 PM
  21. Almeuit's Avatar
    well since samsung themselves decided to dial back touchwiz, i'd say more than a few people have had issues with it.

    myself i found it slow and laggy to use, but that was when i had an s3 (in comparison to my iphone 5 at the time). at that time though, the standard for speed isn't like where it is today obviously, and i assume android in general is a lot faster now. i just dont want to lose speed if i switch to another rom which is my main issue.

    i'm just wondering if this is an issue in general when switching custom roms for another that may not be as optimized for the specific phone you're installing it on.
    It has been toned down a ton from the S3.

    Also the hardware is way more up to par now a days.
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    03-16-2015 04:42 PM
  22. drone3's Avatar
    People hate Touchwiz for three reasons:

    1) It's ugly
    2) It lags
    3) It's bloated

    Samsung has addressed issues 2 & 3. There's no more lag and the footprint has been trimmed down. Is it still ugly? Yes, I think so. But I can side-step most of that by moving to Nova Launcher. Nova also gives me a ton more customization options. But there's still a bunch of other areas where TW presents itself, notably the shade, the camera, contacts, and dialer. However, most of those have been redesigned, although that has never been as issue for me because I actually like the Samsung customizations to those programs. In either case, most of these apps can be replaced.

    So to sum up, get Nova Launcher or use the Google Experience launcher and you should be good.
    Another option to change the aesthetics would be to use the new theme manager. I'm sure someone will make a vanilla android theme to replace the ugliness.

    Posted via Android Central App
    03-16-2015 07:10 PM
  23. STEVESKI07's Avatar
    Another option to change the aesthetics would be to use the new theme manager. I'm sure someone will make a vanilla android theme to replace the ugliness.

    Posted via Android Central App
    I'm not sure they will open up the Themes to developers but I really hope so. Really would like a sleek dark/Black theme. Kind of like the Space theme they demoed but less 13 year old boyish and more mature/techy.
    03-16-2015 07:17 PM
  24. jcp007's Avatar
    Posted a video from GSM Arena that was posted on YouTube today. It's been a long day at the office today but I think somewhere it may mention that TouchWiz is quite close but different enough from stock Android. A bit of hyperbole but you get the point. The video is in the hands on video thread that I started.
    03-16-2015 07:55 PM
  25. jcp007's Avatar
    Posted a video from GSM Arena that was posted on YouTube today. It's been a long day at the office today but I think somewhere it may mention that TouchWiz is quite close but different enough from stock Android. A bit of hyperbole but you get the point. The video is in the hands on video thread that I started.
    Clarification. This rendition is the closest yet. Meaning not quite there yet. It looks great however. Just thought I would clarify before I get jumped.
    03-16-2015 07:59 PM
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