03-18-2015 06:26 AM
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  1. STEVESKI07's Avatar
    The single biggest factor for me is size...by a long shot. I'm not a phablet fan, I don't even like the current regular size phones. My GS3 is at the outer limits of my liking and the S6 will be bigger, the Turbo looked clunky when I saw it this past fall since I was considering the Moto line. My phone is my business line and I'm strapped to it all day & evenings (unfortunately...these aren't "fun" devices for me like so many others here) so "pocketability" is important for me.

    Maybe the GS6 is close in size to the Turbo, but I'll still probably wind up with the GS6 since it's thinner.
    I don't like phablets either. But yes, if small and thin is your biggest factor then the S6 is probably the best phone for you. The turbo is 3mm taller and wider and 4 mm thicker. I'd pay double the price of the S6 if they put the Turbo's battery in it and increased it to that size.
    03-17-2015 01:20 PM
  2. unashamedgeek's Avatar
    I don't like phablets either. But yes, if small and thin is your biggest factor then the S6 is probably the best phone for you. The turbo is 3mm taller and wider and 4 mm thicker. I'd pay double the price of the S6 if they put the Turbo's battery in it and increased it to that size.
    I wanted the Turbo and I really hoped it would have been the Nexus 6. But being Verizon only, I'm out.
    03-17-2015 01:36 PM
  3. chezm's Avatar
    Here's a cool tool that someone else just showed me: Battery life tests - GSMArena.com

    You can adjust the slider to your usage and it will adjust the battery times. But it looks like the S6 should be like heaven to you coming from the nexus 5.

    Unfortunately for me, the Droid Turbo is one of the devices that I'm considering and that appears to blow the S6 out of the water.
    Wow thanks for the link....based on those usage tests, the Nexus 5 is the worst phone i've had since the iPhone 3G battery wise! This includes the Lumia 920 and 1020! I cant say im really surprised, based on my experience it makes sense.
    03-17-2015 01:45 PM
  4. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    What about the Droid Turbo? I know it's just on Verizon, but I'm surprised it gets so little talk. Sure, it's a little "dated" as far as the processor goes since it runs the 805, but it turns out that may be a blessing since the 810 chip is horrible. It has a huge 3900mAh battery, wireless Qi charging, fast charging (60% in 30 minutes so it's better than the S6), splash resistant. In fact I was pretty set on getting that phone until the S6 was released and was blown away with the specs. However if the battery on the S6 truly is bad, I still may consider the Turbo. Only thing the Turbo doesn't have is the fingerprint scanning and Samsung Pay, obviously. But if you just want a phone with new tech and wireless/quick charging that has great battery life, it should definitely be considered.

    Another plus to that phone in my book is the Moto Assist apps. Some of them are extremely useful.
    Not to mention it's Kevlar. Not only is it premium, it might actually be bulletproof (ok, probably not, don't try that at home kids).

    I wish they'd relax the exclusivity a bit, it's a killer phone, and if Moto could get it onto other carriers it would probably make a better flagship than the X.
    03-17-2015 02:54 PM
  5. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Just read the review, and of course I like everyone else is going to harp on battery size. I thought this was telling though, as it speaks to SoT:

    And even if you do decide to stream video non-stop, you’ll still manage a solid seven to eight hours of entertainment before the battery runs dry.
    I know SAMOLED likes movies better than Facebook when it comes to power consumption, but that's still a very solid screen-on-time if accurate.
    03-17-2015 03:04 PM
  6. STEVESKI07's Avatar
    Just read the review, and of course I like everyone else is going to harp on battery size. I thought this was telling though, as it speaks to SoT:



    I know SAMOLED likes movies better than Facebook when it comes to power consumption, but that's still a very solid screen-on-time if accurate.
    Yeah, it doesn't exactly mesh with the paragraph before it when he makes it sound like if you're not a power user then you shouldn't have a problem waiting until night time before charging. 8 hours of SOT is definitely a power user. Unless they have this heavily optimized to play video efficiently.
    03-17-2015 03:15 PM
  7. Jdroids's Avatar
    GSMarena's battery tool is useful but I wouldn't put too much weight on it for comparing phones. The way they rate endurance seems quite inconsistent to me. For example, S4 is rated higher than S6 despite much lower talk, browsing time. Even G3, G flex2 with incredible talk time are rated lower than S4. It doesn't seem to correlate with real world very well. And I take their S6 numbers as preliminary anyway.
    03-17-2015 03:33 PM
  8. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    Yeah, it doesn't exactly mesh with the paragraph before it when he makes it sound like if you're not a power user then you shouldn't have a problem waiting until night time before charging. 8 hours of SOT is definitely a power user. Unless they have this heavily optimized to play video efficiently.
    That's what I'm thinking, that probably all happens on the LITTLE cores. Gaming might use comparable screen power but require more CPU (and pointedly GPU) power.

    Still they say that the short charging metric gets 2 hours of HD streaming or 4 hours of "use." This is an imprecise measure, but would math out to 16-18 hours of "use" if you can stream HD for 8-9 hours...and remember, streaming also involves using the cellular radio. A lot.

    I'd like to know what they define as "use" but it sounds like it might last the day depending on load.
    03-17-2015 03:38 PM
  9. ibcop's Avatar
    We all need to wait until members here can review the device and provide some battery info. I can't see it sucking but I need a warm and fuzzy.

    Posted via S5 or Turbo.
    03-17-2015 03:47 PM
  10. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    We all need to wait until members here can review the device and provide some battery info. I can't see it sucking but I need a warm and fuzzy.

    Posted via S5 or Turbo.
    You realize that's just going to provoke the same arguments about differing use cases, right?
    03-17-2015 04:04 PM
  11. clevin's Avatar
    GSMarena's battery tool is useful but I wouldn't put too much weight on it for comparing phones. The way they rate endurance seems quite inconsistent to me. For example, S4 is rated higher than S6 despite much lower talk, browsing time. Even G3, G flex2 with incredible talk time are rated lower than S4. It doesn't seem to correlate with real world very well. And I take their S6 numbers as preliminary anyway.
    actually, gsmarena rating includes standby performance. Good video/web/talk can surely has bad standby. Since most people's phone spend lot of time in standby, this perhaps is the most significant thing gsmsarena considers that nobody else test.

    In my judgement, gsmarena is the only one I fully trust.

    Of course, Sammy still have time to push out 0 day updates to fix s6's standby performance, which I suspect is bad and respincible for soso overall battery life right now.
    03-17-2015 04:43 PM
  12. Alex_NJ's Avatar
    Samsung have put the same processor from the S6 and S6 edge in to their new smartwatch.

    If the processor is efficient enough to be put in to a tiny watch then I imagine the S6's battery life will be phenomenal
    03-17-2015 04:44 PM
  13. clevin's Avatar
    Samsung have put the same processor from the S6 and S6 edge in to their new smartwatch.

    If the processor is efficient enough to be put in to a tiny watch then I imagine the S6's battery life will be phenomenal
    There is a thread showing s6's cpu battery efficiency is almost twice as good as s5. That 14nm exynos octa is indeed phenomenal. Obviously the problem is most apps and services don't work cpu that hard, device battery life is, in most cases, differs vastly from what cpu battery efficiency may lead one to believe.
    03-17-2015 05:33 PM
  14. ibcop's Avatar
    You realize that's just going to provoke the same arguments about differing use cases, right?
    Yes, of course the whining and crying will continue but at least it'll be with people using the device on a daily basis.

    Just wait until release and these threads will blow up with complaints. Nature of the beast though.

    Posted via S5 or Turbo.
    03-17-2015 06:23 PM
  15. jcp007's Avatar
    Having read through the article, I didn't see anything earth shattering. Again, this a preliminary review so battery comments are fine and in perspective. It all depends on your settings and your degree of use or abuse. You also have rapid charging, ultra power save mode, dual wireless charging standards, and portable charging accessories. Concerns are more warranted once we have production unit reviews on the battery and the phone itself. My decision to purchase or pass depends upon more than just how the battery performs given the above mentioned options.
    03-17-2015 07:10 PM
  16. Jdroids's Avatar
    actually, gsmarena rating includes standby performance. Good video/web/talk can surely has bad standby. Since most people's phone spend lot of time in standby, this perhaps is the most significant thing gsmsarena considers that nobody else test.

    In my judgement, gsmarena is the only one I fully trust.

    Of course, Sammy still have time to push out 0 day updates to fix s6's standby performance, which I suspect is bad and respincible for soso overall battery life right now.
    Then honestly do you believe S4 would last longer than G3 because they say so? I don't think any G3 owner would agree with that. And this is just one example from their list that seems not in line with reality.
    03-17-2015 07:15 PM
  17. clevin's Avatar
    Then honestly do you believe S4 would last longer than G3 because they say so? I don't think any G3 owner would agree with that. And this is just one example from their list that seems not in line with reality.
    until you or I own both devices, we honestly cannot judge, and I don't believe g3 owners should judge neither. Just because they love what they have, doesn't mean they have the right to dispute the test results.

    Amoled screen always has excellent video play back time, there is really nothing to be surprised about.

    BTW, the rating of g3 is higher than s4 last time I checked.
    03-17-2015 07:35 PM
  18. Jdroids's Avatar
    until you or I own both devices, we honestly cannot judge, and I don't believe g3 owners should judge neither. Just because they love what they have, doesn't mean they have the right to dispute the test results.

    Amoled screen always has excellent video play back time, there is really nothing to be surprised about.

    BTW, the rating of g3 is higher than s4 last time I checked.
    Check it again. S4 is rated higher than G3 on endurance rating right now.

    There are many G3 users upgraded from S4 and they are seeing better battery life than S4 mostly on many forums including AC. That has nothing to do with loving it.

    I'm not saying GSMarena tool is totally useless. Clearly a phone with twice higher rating is definitely better. But for phones with close ratings, it often doesn't reflect reality well.
    03-17-2015 09:11 PM
  19. clevin's Avatar
    Check it again. S4 is rated higher than G3 on endurance rating right now.

    There are many G3 users upgraded from S4 and they are seeing better battery life than S4 mostly on many forums including AC. That has nothing to do with loving it.

    I'm not saying GSMarena tool is totally useless. Clearly a phone with twice higher rating is definitely better. But for phones with close ratings, it often doesn't reflect reality well.
    I certainly understand their "feeling", which is quite easy to explain. A one year old battery that was degraded 10-30% of it battery capacity, a one year old operating system that got filled with junks, I bet they would feel a better battery life even if they "upgrade" to a brand spanking new S4. btw, for your reading interest, here is my documentation of battery degrading process over 14 months ( http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...reference.html ).

    G3 endurance rating dropped, mainly due to LG's foolishness in pushing out Lollipop so quickly and get burned by Google. HTC got spanked by this update too, it seems only line that get better battery life from this update is sammy smartphone family.
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    03-18-2015 03:47 AM
  20. jcp007's Avatar
    Everything that we have heard or read and have been discussing is based on preliminary reviews or first impressions. We need to take a step back and wait for reviews closer to go live. The GS6 is going to impress most of us and definitely won't bomb. Once we have these reviews and some first hand testing in the stores, we can offer more informed opinions and decide to purchase or pass.
    03-18-2015 06:26 AM
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