04-17-2015 10:20 AM
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  1. Adranalyne's Avatar
    Yeah. I'll be coming from the One M8 and it's disappointing to hear that the S6 may not be as smooth or as lag free as that along with worse battery life. But then there are other aspects of the S6 which are big improvements over there M8 (namely the camera) which I am looking forward to.

    Every phone has good and bad. Just have to weigh up the pros and con's of each device and see what is right for you.

    I'm hoping I can tolerate the speed and UI, which are major pet peeves for me. I absolutely cannot stand performance issues in the UI and I think I'll buy a power pack, so that should fix any battery issues.

    Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
    Good lord am I tired of hearing this. The type of "lag" we're talking about here is present on all phones if you try to get it to stutter. Your M8 does it. My Nexus 6 does it. The people who bring it up are still on the "Welp, it's Touchwiz" brigade.


    Engadget: "Both the S6 and the Edge were incredibly snappy, with virtually zero lag during normal use. I could usually coax the phones to take a little longer than normal to figure out what to do next, but the keyword there is "coax" -- we're talking opening apps and leaping between them faster than anyone would ever need to just to be an ***. Whenever I used the phone as I normally would, both devices were basically butter."

    Computerworld: "The Galaxy S6 uses Samsung's own Exynos 7420 octa-core processor along with 3GB of RAM. And while past Samsung flagships have suffered from lag and jerkiness despite their impressive-sounding internals, the Galaxy S6 is consistently smooth and snappy. From app-loading to Web browsing and multitasking, I've yet to encounter anything that hasn't felt fast and responsive." (And stevelam, this is from JR Raphael. He notices no redraw.)

    Wired (David Pierce): "The S6 (from now on, assume I mean both models when I say that) has a new eight-core processor and 3GB of RAM. It’s extremely, remarkably fast. The software that Samsung adds to stock Android used to cause its phones to stutter and lag, but either its designers have figured out how Android works, or there’s just so much raw horsepower that it doesn’t matter anymore. I suspect it’s a little of both."

    Gizmodo: "The Galaxy S6 is blisteringly fast. Switching between apps, scrolling through the multitasking queue, pulling down the notification shade, opening the camera, running games, I never once saw the slightest hitch in performance. There’s nothing wildly throw-your-hair-back about the speed; it’s not unbelievable or anything like that. Other recent flagship phones feel fast, too. But the S6 does everything you’d want it to as quickly as you could ask. And it does it consistently."


    I could continue, but I hope you get the point. As far as the battery life is concerned, there is clearly an issue causing it to drain much quicker than normal. Whether it's the T-Mobile variant, Android Lollipop (which is likely so far), or a Samsung issue, it's clearly not performing as well as it could. This phone hasn't even launched yet. If people with all variants experience this 2 weeks after April 10th, there's cause for concern. Until then, the sky isn't falling and this battery performance is not indicative of what the phone can really do.

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    04-03-2015 06:47 AM
  2. jcp007's Avatar
    I didn't get the impression that he didn't like the phone. He spoke more highly of it than he did negative things about it. He seemed to come from a neutral perspective, which is good and spoke (from what I could tell) honestly about various aspects of the phone.

    Saying the battery life isn't great is something we've now heard from multiple reviews, multiple sources. Seems like that is the case with the phone. And the spots of lag is something we're hearing as well. Mentions of it not being as smooth as the One M8 is something I've come to accept, but will properly judge when I get to try it.

    Aside from that Touchwiz is Touchwiz. If you like it, you should like this new revision. If not, then we're lucky Android can have 3rd party launchers installed.

    Then he spoke highly of the design and build of the phone, spoke really highly of the camera as well. Was a more well balanced review that I've read. Didn't sound like he had a chip on his shoulder about it.


    Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
    I guess very reviewer has a different style. He must have been a former prosecuter. Hit you over the head with the desired verdict and then explains why. He made some valid points some i thought were accurate and some that showed his bias. He at least acknowledged that he used TMO but I don't recall if he said how much of his testing occurred before after the patch was applied.
    04-03-2015 07:00 AM
  3. jcp007's Avatar
    Yeah. I'll be coming from the One M8 and it's disappointing to hear that the S6 may not be as smooth or as lag free as that along with worse battery life. But then there are other aspects of the S6 which are big improvements over there M8 (namely the camera) which I am looking forward to.

    Every phone has good and bad. Just have to weigh up the pros and con's of each device and see what is right for you.

    I'm hoping I can tolerate the speed and UI, which are major pet peeves for me. I absolutely cannot stand performance issues in the UI and I think I'll buy a power pack, so that should fix any battery issues.

    Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
    The device, at least the demo unit in Best Buy, which I don't recall the branding, was lightning fast and smooth as butter. Granted I only had 15-20 minutes last Friday with the GS6 but I spent nearly the entire time trying to get it to lag but to no avail. I would tried more but people were waiting to try it out.
    04-03-2015 07:04 AM
  4. jcp007's Avatar
    Good lord am I tired of hearing this. The type of "lag" we're talking about here is present on all phones if you try to get it to stutter. Your M8 does it. My Nexus 6 does it. The people who bring it up are still on the "Welp, it's Touchwiz" brigade.


    Engadget: "Both the S6 and the Edge were incredibly snappy, with virtually zero lag during normal use. I could usually coax the phones to take a little longer than normal to figure out what to do next, but the keyword there is "coax" -- we're talking opening apps and leaping between them faster than anyone would ever need to just to be an ***. Whenever I used the phone as I normally would, both devices were basically butter."

    Computerworld: "The Galaxy S6 uses Samsung's own Exynos 7420 octa-core processor along with 3GB of RAM. And while past Samsung flagships have suffered from lag and jerkiness despite their impressive-sounding internals, the Galaxy S6 is consistently smooth and snappy. From app-loading to Web browsing and multitasking, I've yet to encounter anything that hasn't felt fast and responsive." (And stevelam, this is from JR Raphael. He notices no redraw.)

    Wired (David Pierce): "The S6 (from now on, assume I mean both models when I say that) has a new eight-core processor and 3GB of RAM. It’s extremely, remarkably fast. The software that Samsung adds to stock Android used to cause its phones to stutter and lag, but either its designers have figured out how Android works, or there’s just so much raw horsepower that it doesn’t matter anymore. I suspect it’s a little of both."

    Gizmodo: "The Galaxy S6 is blisteringly fast. Switching between apps, scrolling through the multitasking queue, pulling down the notification shade, opening the camera, running games, I never once saw the slightest hitch in performance. There’s nothing wildly throw-your-hair-back about the speed; it’s not unbelievable or anything like that. Other recent flagship phones feel fast, too. But the S6 does everything you’d want it to as quickly as you could ask. And it does it consistently."


    I could continue, but I hope you get the point. As far as the battery life is concerned, there is clearly an issue causing it to drain much quicker than normal. Whether it's the T-Mobile variant, Android Lollipop (which is likely so far), or a Samsung issue, it's clearly not performing as well as it could. This phone hasn't even launched yet. If people with all variants experience this 2 weeks after April 10th, there's cause for concern. Until then, the sky isn't falling and this battery performance is not indicative of what the phone can really do.

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    I couldn't agree more. I can't remember a device launch where there was so much consternation driven by reviews in which battery life,a single aspect of the device, dominated all the discussion. We got the point that the device should have had a larger battery and all the rants in the world will never change that. After a couple of weeks, the expandable memory issue faded. why? Isn't the lack of it not deserving of the same undue upset especially as in both cases, there is not enough information from multiple carriers being used in multiple reviews to discern a possible trend? Instead of discussing some of the new or improved features of the device and learning more about them, we hear how outraged people are over battery test results which were all over the place due to firmware, device setup, carrier or network issues and the level of the load placed on the device to test the battery. Who has 4-7 hours to spend on a PHONE? Every Samsung Galaxy phone that I have had has gotten me through an entire day. Every one pounces on the review that best supports their side. When enough people, more than the small universe here in the forum, start reporting back actually results from off the shelf devices, then we will know for sure. In the meantime, let's chill and stop the whining. It's been more than a month, we get you think Samsung screwed up on the battery even though the things good thing that Samsung was able to accomplish in their massive reddsign effort over such a short period of time to bring what most reviews call an incredible device, possibly the best of 2015. Is it really? Well never know at this rate.
    04-03-2015 07:24 AM
  5. Inders99's Avatar
    Who has 4-7 hours to spend on a PHONE?
    Good grief no kidding...and the second point would be who would want to? If I spend that much time looking at a stupid phone I need to rethink my life.
    04-03-2015 07:31 AM
  6. edgefever's Avatar
    The battery is not that small , its obvious there something wrong ..That's why people or complaining . There's nothing wrong with storage, so no reason to complain about that..
    04-03-2015 08:18 AM
  7. jcp007's Avatar
    The battery is not that small , its obvious there something wrong ..That's why people or complaining . There's nothing wrong with storage, so no reason to complain about that..
    But we don't know if it is a carrier or Samsung or Lollipop issue, do we? Until, we get more off the shelf feedback, we are ranting back and forth not focusing on what Samsung accomplished over the past year. Always on the negative we seem to focus.
    04-03-2015 08:24 AM
  8. edgefever's Avatar
    Good grief no kidding...and the second point would be who would want to? If I spend that much time looking at a stupid phone I need to rethink my life.
    Here we go again ....you guys telling someone how they should use their phone ....
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    04-03-2015 08:27 AM
  9. jcp007's Avatar
    Here we go again ....you guys telling someone how they should use their phone ....
    Absolutely, positively, irrefutable off point. You have your OPINION, we are entitled to our own and not the sarcastic shutdown. I have more important things to do than to worry about what you think. Mature conversation only works with mutual respect and tolerance for differing opinions. Instead, if we express an opinion in contravention to your opinion, we are ridiculed and our opinions dismissed as immature and dishonest.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-03-2015 09:00 AM
  10. warpdrive's Avatar
    Absolutely, positively, irrefutable off point. You have your OPINION, we are entitled to our own and not the sarcastic shutdown. I have more important things to do than to worry about what you think. Mature conversation only works with mutual respect and tolerance for differing opinions. Instead, if we express an opinion in contravention to your opinion, we are ridiculed and our opinions dismissed as immature and dishonest.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    If you would just stop, then people wouldn't complain about your behavior. It's getting tiring and you are making people feel unwelcome. It's one thing to express your thoughts, it's another thing to tell someone how to think of what should be important to them.

    When you stop doing this, we will stop pointing out out to you.

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    04-03-2015 09:36 AM
  11. jcp007's Avatar
    If you would just stop, then people wouldn't complain about your behavior. It's getting tiring and you are making people feel unwelcome. It's one thing to express your thoughts, it's another thing to tell someone how to think of what should be important to them.

    When you stop doing this, we will stop pointing out out to you.

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    Speech police alert. Officer down in pursuit and trying to censor speech. Dude, I pity you that your whole life is to quote my posts and infringe on my rights. It's not your job.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-03-2015 09:44 AM
  12. Adranalyne's Avatar
    Let's get this thread back on course, guys. I successfully put the "lag"/battery issue into perspective and then it degrades into a shouting match.

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    04-03-2015 09:47 AM
  13. Jdroids's Avatar
    Lag wise, I'm not too worried. BB S6 demo units were very quick and responsive and even felt faster than N6 demo unit. I only had turn off Flipboard page on the left that I don't use. Released version should work better without demo software running. My only concern is battery life. but now it appears to be T-mobile software hurting stand-by time.
    04-03-2015 09:49 AM
  14. warpdrive's Avatar
    Speech police alert. Officer down in pursuit and trying to censor speech. Dude, I pity you that your whole life is to quote my posts and infringe on my rights. It's not your job.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    That is exactly what we are trying to get you to do, so just stop telling others how to think. Just form your own opinion and move on. Once you stop you'll find it much more pleasant here.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-03-2015 09:50 AM
  15. jcp007's Avatar
    Lag wise, I'm not too worried. BB S6 demo units were very quick and responsive and even felt faster than N6 demo unit. I only had turn off Flipboard page on the left that I don't use. Released version should work better without demo software running. My only concern is battery life. but now it appears to be T-mobile software hurting stand-by time.
    I seem to be recall a sticky on tips and tricks for optimizing performance. Someone started one. Please make it one so that that we can help each other out.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-03-2015 09:52 AM
  16. Coney718's Avatar
    I've had the phone for a few days now and can give a little insight from a real world point of view. The UI is smooth..is it perfect? No. But definitely the smoothest version if TW out right now. I have experienced very minimal lag..and the only stutter is I did see were when multiple apps (like 10) were running. Soon as I closed them it was back to smooth sailing. Any phone can lag if you trying to make it. In real life who's opening 20 apps in 5 minutes going back and forth. And let me say this..this "lag" is only an issue for us phone nerds in forums like this, mostly because we are looking for it. Normal users will not even notice it.

    Now the battery..I will admit..its not great. I'm getting 12-13 hours with moderate use. Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS only on when needed. Web browsing, FB, Instagram, texting and watching a movie on my 40 minute commute to work. It also tends to get warm quickly. Again for most users it will be just fine. I told my wife I was only getting 12 hours of battery life and she said "whats wrong with that? sounds good to me". Though she averages slightly better on her S5.

    Overall im enjoying the phone so far and I think most people will too. Is it for everyone? Absolutely not. Im actually considering the Note 4 because im one of the few people that prefer the faux leather back of the Note to the all glass of the S6. Seems more durable and the S6 and Note are close enough in specs it wouldnt feel like that much of a downgrade but I'll decide that in the next few days. The S6 is beautiful but very slippery, you definitely need some type of case which kind of defeats the purpose of getting such a beautiful phone.

    All in all I agree with most of the reviews. Great design, great camera, smooth (not perfect) UI. but the battery is average
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    04-03-2015 10:55 AM
  17. Strawdawg2013's Avatar
    the Engadget review seems fairly balanced and put things into perspective from my viewpoint.
    04-03-2015 11:03 AM
  18. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    As jcp states,
    Any reviews that don't praise the S6 have unrealistic expectations.
    04-03-2015 12:19 PM
  19. Almeuit's Avatar
    Good grief no kidding...and the second point would be who would want to? If I spend that much time looking at a stupid phone I need to rethink my life.
    No reason to attack people guys! -- Just because your opinion is different -- or situation is different doesn't mean they have no life or are considered less .
    04-03-2015 12:38 PM
  20. Adranalyne's Avatar
    Jon Rettinger over at TechnoBuffalo made sure to point out in his video review of the Edge that there's zero lag. Considering how hard he's been on Samsung over the years, that's not a bad endorsement.

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    04-03-2015 01:05 PM
  21. Inders99's Avatar
    No reason to attack people guys! -- Just because your opinion is different -- or situation is different doesn't mean they have no life or are considered less .
    Geez...
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    04-03-2015 02:38 PM
  22. msavic6's Avatar
    Another great review by DetroitBorg. Grab some popcorn as its 30 minutes long


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    04-04-2015 03:55 AM
  23. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    You guys are just BEGGING for moderation, you know that? There's a reason I (and probably many others) are posting less these days.
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    04-04-2015 07:20 AM
  24. jcp007's Avatar
    Jon Rettinger over at TechnoBuffalo made sure to point out in his video review of the Edge that there's zero lag. Considering how hard he's been on Samsung over the years, that's not a bad endorsement.

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    The review is on YouTube but I have also posted it in hands on video thread
    04-04-2015 09:35 AM
  25. jcp007's Avatar
    Another great review by DetroitBorg. Grab some popcorn as its 30 minutes long


    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
    I'm one of his subscribers and post the link in the video complications thread and the tips and tricks thread. He is so thorough and objective. Other reviewers could take a lesson from him. NOTE: TMO carrier brands don't let that sway you. Listen and you will learn a lot.
    04-04-2015 09:36 AM
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